~British Soul~ Posted November 15, 2013 Report Share Posted November 15, 2013 Well, not Limited Force. *Slowclaps* Yeah, I know that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heraldry_lord Posted November 15, 2013 Report Share Posted November 15, 2013 I guess it also depends somewhat on what IRL Argent Chaos Force does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More than 3 characters Posted November 15, 2013 Report Share Posted November 15, 2013 I guess it also depends somewhat on what IRL Argent Chaos Force does.I assume it'll be pretty similar to the anime, but without the ability to summon CXyz and possibly a Type restriction to stop it from being simply a better Limited (there would be no purpose to Limited if Argent could Rank-Up regardless of Type). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
玄魔の王 Posted November 15, 2013 Report Share Posted November 15, 2013 I assume it'll be pretty similar to the anime, but without the ability to summon CXyz and possibly a Type restriction to stop it from being simply a better Limited (there would be no purpose to Limited if Argent could Rank-Up regardless of Type). Except then Argent just becomes worse Varian's Force. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heraldry_lord Posted November 15, 2013 Report Share Posted November 15, 2013 Except then Argent just becomes worse Varian's Force. The best compromise I see is making it a Limited Barian's Force for Rank 5 or higher Xyz. Alternatively, it can be a Limited for Machine-Type Xyz only. If it's un-nerfed, it'll make Limited obsolete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
玄魔の王 Posted November 15, 2013 Report Share Posted November 15, 2013 The best compromise I see is making it a Limited Barian's Force for Rank 5 or higher Xyz. Alternatively, it can be a Limited for Machine-Type Xyz only. If it's un-nerfed, it'll make Limited obsolete. If I had to choose from those, I'd go for Rank 5+. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted November 15, 2013 Report Share Posted November 15, 2013 It'd actually be really cool if Argent Chaos was a RUM for Rank 5+, but ONLY if it can work with CXyz, too. CXyz need support outside of regular Barian's Force. Even if the flavor of Barian's Force is supposed to be restricted to CXyz and Number Cs, it's annoying to keep making Rank-Up Magics that are outclassed by Limited Force. Astral Force is pretty awesome, though. Also, there's the possibility that if Tron does return to the anime, he might have Argent Chaos Force, in which case, being only for Rank 5+ wouldn't work for Argent, since Tron only uses Rank 4s. Has LVAL included a Rank-Up Magic? I thought there was a theory that each Set that included Rank-Up Xyz also made a new RUM so that Sneak Peeks could play those cards. I know LVAL has Astral Force (useless in that Set) and Numeron Fall (...also useless in that Set). But that means C101 is also useless, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted November 15, 2013 Report Share Posted November 15, 2013 Has LVAL included a Rank-Up Magic? I thought there was a theory that each Set that included Rank-Up Xyz also made a new RUM so that Sneak Peeks could play those cards. I know LVAL has Astral Force (useless in that Set) and Numeron Fall (...also useless in that Set). But that means C101 is also useless, lol. Yeah, it is a shame that the set doesn't have a Xyz that can make the RUM and RDM useable in sneak peeks, oh well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heraldry_lord Posted November 15, 2013 Report Share Posted November 15, 2013 Has LVAL included a Rank-Up Magic? I thought there was a theory that each Set that included Rank-Up Xyz also made a new RUM so that Sneak Peeks could play those cards. I know LVAL has Astral Force (useless in that Set) and Numeron Fall (...also useless in that Set). But that means C101 is also useless, lol. As far as I know, Astral Force and Numeron Fall are the only "Rank-Up/Down" cards in the set. Numeron Fall lets you bring out Utopia Roots, which is in the same set. Astral Force lets you Rank Up Albverdich to the new 3-material Rank 6, which is also in the same set. Unfortunately, neither base Xyz is in that same set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
玄魔の王 Posted November 16, 2013 Report Share Posted November 16, 2013 Is there any way to make C101 with Astral Force? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heraldry_lord Posted November 16, 2013 Report Share Posted November 16, 2013 Is there any way to make C101 with Astral Force? Currently there aren't any Rank 3 WATER Aqua-Type monsters, though that could change eventually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted November 16, 2013 Report Share Posted November 16, 2013 Is there any way to make C101 with Astral Force? Nope.avi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heraldry_lord Posted November 16, 2013 Report Share Posted November 16, 2013 Nope.avi Technically, it's possible with DNA Transplant/Scroll of Bewitchment + Leviair, but obviously no-one would do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted November 16, 2013 Report Share Posted November 16, 2013 Technically, it's possible with DNA Transplant + Leviair, but obviously no-one would do that. Then technically you should've included that in your post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heraldry_lord Posted November 16, 2013 Report Share Posted November 16, 2013 Then technically you should've included that in your post. Well sorry for trying to have a conversation. Anyway, we'll just have to wait and see how C6 turns out, because it's still unconfirmed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted November 16, 2013 Report Share Posted November 16, 2013 Maybe it'll follow No.6's design in that you have to also send a monster equipped by its own effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heraldry_lord Posted November 16, 2013 Report Share Posted November 16, 2013 Maybe it'll follow No.6's design in that you have to also send a monster equipped by its own effect. I was actually thinking that that would be the case. In fact the Organization says this about it: [quote] The opponent takes 0 damage during the turn in which the effect of Chaos Atlandis’s is activated. It can equip opponent monsters to buff its ATK by 1000 for each. Its effect if it has normal Atlandis equipped allows you to use Xyz Material to make your opponent’s Life Points 100. [/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trebuchet MS Posted November 16, 2013 Report Share Posted November 16, 2013 Decrease your opponent's Life Points by 300 points. It's not burn damage Oddly, if we read the original Japanese lore, this card does inflict damage. "相手ライフに300ポイントダメージを与える。" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted November 16, 2013 Report Share Posted November 16, 2013 Well sorry for trying to have a conversation. I'm sorry for my previous dick-ass post then, but it could've been worse. Though with the point you made in your previous post, I can re-word your post answering the question: "Currently there aren't any Rank 3 WATER Aqua-Type monsters, but that doesn't mean that you cannot summon C101 with Astral Force, as you can use DNA Transplant whilst you have Leviair out making it a WATER Aqua-type." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Sage Posted November 16, 2013 Report Share Posted November 16, 2013 Art: And the effect is confirmed in its entirety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trebuchet MS Posted November 16, 2013 Report Share Posted November 16, 2013 It appears the "Atlandis only" effect of making the opponent's LP 100 also involves sending all the equipped monsters to the Graveyard as a cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted November 16, 2013 Report Share Posted November 16, 2013 IRL eff: If you activate any of this card effects, your opponent takes no damage for the rest of this turn. Once per turn: You can target 1 monster your opponent controls; equip it to this card. This card gains ATK equal to the number of monsters equipped to it by this effect x 1000. If this card has "Number 6: Chronomaly Atlandis" as an Xyz Material, it gains this effect. ● You can detach 3 Xyz Materials from this card, then send all the "Number" monsters equipped to this card to the Graveyard; your opponent's Life Points become 100. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maeriberii Haan Posted November 16, 2013 Report Share Posted November 16, 2013 That's more balanced, but still. Making the Equip effect during your main phase is pretty sweet tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canopy Star - Eon Sphere Posted November 16, 2013 Report Share Posted November 16, 2013 So you need to have Number monsters equipped to activate the LP to 100 effect? Well that would be a balancing factor in the extreme, unless you have a way of equipping your own Numbers to it. Also, the no damage effect applies to both effects, as I believe someone pointed out earlier. That said, this is still a ridiculously good card for a 3-mat Rank 7. Cause, y'know, Dragons. So it's non-destruction removal with the promise of 4300 body at least. The other effect seems a bit far off competitively, but it could be fun for casual games and that one moment of sheer absurdity when it can actually be resolved. In short, I LIKE IT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted November 16, 2013 Report Share Posted November 16, 2013 That said, this is still a ridiculously good card for a 3-mat Rank 7. Cause, y'know, Dragons.Whats even scarier, is the fact this card might as well be another Big Eye.I mean, yes, you need 3 Materials for it, but you can basically steal a monster once-per-turn and still run over things with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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