Tentacruel Posted January 3, 2014 Report Share Posted January 3, 2014 Trying to get (back) into the meta and in my old man brain this card is scary but obviously that hasn't been the case in a long time. MST at 3 helps I guess. I can still see this being useful in pretty much any deck where you can swarm the field, but I digress. Discuss and teach me pl0x. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazooie Posted January 3, 2014 Report Share Posted January 3, 2014 It's in the same boat as the majority of Equip Spells. Cloggy and way too vulnerable to really be of much use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted January 3, 2014 Report Share Posted January 3, 2014 Cloggy and way too vulnerable-Technically, and for the most part, it's the monster that they are tied to, which kinda' sorta' determins the usefulness of such cards, but yea, that point still reamins. OR, in the case of cards like Murasame Blade, they have something going for them that isn't just ATK boost, and could give you more milage then what you would expect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zauls Posted January 3, 2014 Report Share Posted January 3, 2014 This card is the definition of overkill. It also doesn't help any decks' strategies and is just cloggy and a bad top-deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Posted January 3, 2014 Report Share Posted January 3, 2014 As the game's evolved, there's plenty of ways of ruining something like United We Stand or Mage Power. -MST is one -Forbidden Lance too, making the monster lose 800 ATK AND disregard the boost that the Equip was giving it. -Book of Moon is still decent to me. -Many decks will easily access monster removal or card removal in general, so it's never too huge of a problem to get rid of an unprotected beater. It also being a card that depends on quantity to work, it won't do much for you as your monsters go down in numbers. It's still a solid card on it's own with up to a 4000 ATK boost, which is intimidating enough. It's just that the potential counter plays for something like that are more accessible. I remember when this card, Scapegoat, Mage Power, and MST were all limited. Fun times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_engineer Posted January 3, 2014 Report Share Posted January 3, 2014 Vylon can run this pretty well along with mage power, since Epsilon can protect its equip spells (while also protecting himself if it has Vylon Segment equipped) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
玄魔の王 Posted January 3, 2014 Report Share Posted January 3, 2014 The best use of this card is in an OTK deck with Scapegoat, provided you are running something to search this. The next-best is Power Tool.dek, though that's shaky as-is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bahamut - Envoy of the End Posted January 3, 2014 Report Share Posted January 3, 2014 Sticking my head in a section it don't belong, but something's always bothered me about this card... If it's called United we Stand... Then why does the equipped monster gain 800 ATK for itself, when it's out on the field by itself...? It makes no sense people! Or at least it never has to me. ;) Anyway, it's a digression about the card's theme that's really not here or there. Agree with most of the above in terms of use. Used to hate it in GX-era, but game has moved on and there's more that deals with it now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slinky Posted January 3, 2014 Report Share Posted January 3, 2014 As the game's evolved, there's plenty of ways of ruining something like United We Stand or Mage Power. -MST is one -Forbidden Lance too, making the monster lose 800 ATK AND disregard the boost that the Equip was giving it. -Book of Moon is still decent to me. -Many decks will easily access monster removal or card removal in general, so it's never too huge of a problem to get rid of an unprotected beater. It also being a card that depends on quantity to work, it won't do much for you as your monsters go down in numbers. It's still a solid card on it's own with up to a 4000 ATK boost, which is intimidating enough. It's just that the potential counter plays for something like that are more accessible. I remember when this card, Scapegoat, Mage Power, and MST were all limited. Fun times. Didn't UWS used to be banned for that exact same reason? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
玄魔の王 Posted January 3, 2014 Report Share Posted January 3, 2014 Didn't UWS used to be banned for that exact same reason? lol Limited, not Banned. Along with Scapegoat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slinky Posted January 3, 2014 Report Share Posted January 3, 2014 Limited, not Banned. Along with Scapegoat. No, I'm fairly positive it used to be banned. http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/September_2004_Lists Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGATHODAIMON BANGTAIL COW Posted January 3, 2014 Report Share Posted January 3, 2014 Well, I run this card, and it's nice... ... In that Lycanthrope Deck. Letting Dullahan run over everything (probably without even detaching for his eff) or Manju, or letting Lycan itself obliterate your opponent's LP with a 4800 swing +~1200 burn is pretty sweet. But then again, I suck at Deckbuilding, so I probably could have used those 2 spots on something better. Edit: Maaaaaat! Hiiiiiiii! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dog King Posted January 3, 2014 Report Share Posted January 3, 2014 you could tech one in an agent build Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zauls Posted January 3, 2014 Report Share Posted January 3, 2014 you could tech one in an agent build Agents really don't want yet another bad topdeck and they need all the consistency they can get. United We Stand is a big no no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dog King Posted January 3, 2014 Report Share Posted January 3, 2014 Agents really don't want yet another bad topdeck and they need all the consistency they can get. United We Stand is a big no no. well im just listing some stuff where you could actually use this like idk i just though a +3200 atk card to your agent would be funny, or even to your shine ball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jabber2033 Posted January 4, 2014 Report Share Posted January 4, 2014 Only real use I see this in is the old Ben Kei OTK, which is actually a viable option if you want to play cheap decks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildflame Posted January 4, 2014 Report Share Posted January 4, 2014 Several Vylon OTKs and Power Tool.dek. That's it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tentacruel Posted January 4, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2014 Wait, correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't this be viable in Harpies considering their ability to both A) swarm the field and B) kill your opponent's backrow? With this card all you would really need is one attack for it to be effective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildflame Posted January 4, 2014 Report Share Posted January 4, 2014 Wait, correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't this be viable in Harpies considering their ability to both A) swarm the field and B) kill your opponent's backrow? With this card all you would really need is one attack for it to be effective. Phalanx Pike is the better option in Harpies. And actually, quite hilarious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tentacruel Posted January 4, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2014 Phalanx Pike is the better option in Harpies. And actually, quite hilarious. Oh damn, didn't know that existed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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