Airride Posted January 3, 2014 Report Share Posted January 3, 2014 Thats actually a pretty damn good beater in Spell Counters and Skill Drains. It's a condition (Or something?), not an effect, like the Koa'kis. You can't negate it. Also, Spell counters don't want to use this shit. Spellcounter decks are bad, anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heraldry_lord Posted January 3, 2014 Report Share Posted January 3, 2014 Thats actually a pretty damn good beater in Spell Counters and Skill Drains. I'm pointing out the monster he may be referring to; I'm not arguing how bad it is. Also Skill Drain cannot negate its maintenance cost, so unless you run Spell Counters and Drain in the same deck, it'll be problematic using it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_engineer Posted January 3, 2014 Report Share Posted January 3, 2014 *cough* meklords with temple of the kings banned, this card has no use Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heraldry_lord Posted January 3, 2014 Report Share Posted January 3, 2014 with temple of the kings banned, this card has no use It technically can be used with Skill Drain, but there's no point to that when you have better options such as Barbaros and Fusilier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_engineer Posted January 3, 2014 Report Share Posted January 3, 2014 It technically can be used with Skill Drain, but there's no point to that when you have better options such as Barbaros and Fusilier. That's what i mean, also, night express knight can do the same job, while also having 3000 def points Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted January 3, 2014 Report Share Posted January 3, 2014 We may as well just list all the Guardians except Eatos. Yeah, but... Dagger Elma is banned. At least the others can be used, but it isn't worth using them. This is a perfect example, thank you. It's better than my other suggestion that's for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zauls Posted January 3, 2014 Report Share Posted January 3, 2014 Thats still a half decent beater. Contenders need to follow these guidelines - Inherent Super Minus (pot of Generosity is a -3 for no reason, Two pronged is a -2) - Cards that can't even be used due to banlist restrictions (Neo Bubbleman, metamorphosis is banned) - Ludicrous summoning conditions, but lacks the power to add it up (Larvae Moth, lol) You guys are free to inquire about more guidelines though, as i know i missed some. Maybe Garadholg isn't the worst card in the game, but definitely one of the most outclassed. It is outclassed by any 1800 beater since Garadholg is just a 1600 beater with a chance to go up to 1800 occasionally. It is severely outclassed by even Mechanicalchaser, to put it into perspective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerion Brightflame Posted January 3, 2014 Report Share Posted January 3, 2014 Yeah, but... Dagger Elma is banned. At least the others can be used, but it isn't worth using them. It's better than my other suggestion that's for sure. Elma can be used, Book of the Sun exists. Hell it's more usable than Thyrce for that reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brinolovania Posted January 3, 2014 Report Share Posted January 3, 2014 Larvae Moth's still the worst IMO, in that it needs quite a bit of setup to achieve absolutely nothing worthwhile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slinky Posted January 4, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2014 Elma can be used, Book of the Sun exists. Hell it's more usable than Thyrce for that reason. Book of the Sun? >.> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heraldry_lord Posted January 4, 2014 Report Share Posted January 4, 2014 Larvae Moth's still the worst IMO, in that it needs quite a bit of setup to achieve absolutely nothing worthwhile. They really should release an instant win card whose condition is met when you Summon any of the hard-to-Summon Moths. Book of the Sun? >.> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philemon Posted January 4, 2014 Report Share Posted January 4, 2014 I've always wanted to use this thing to kill something like Yubel or Marshmallon, just to mess with them. But that would require adding Zone Eater to my deck and, even worse, using it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGATHODAIMON BANGTAIL COW Posted January 4, 2014 Report Share Posted January 4, 2014 Book of the Sun? >.> OT: Destruction of Destiny. IDK, I just threw something I haven't seen posted in this thread yet. Self-mill wasn't useful way back then, you took a crapton of damage just by losing Spells, and now that self-milling is good, it's outclassed by Lightsworn monsters and Card Trooper, or if you want to use your NS on something else, Needlebug Nest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted January 4, 2014 Report Share Posted January 4, 2014 Elma can be used, Book of the Sun exists. *holds gun to forehead* Nevermind then. Forgot that card existed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goddamnit names are a pain Posted January 4, 2014 Report Share Posted January 4, 2014 You guys point out Elma and Zone Eater. Time4logic. Tidal and Tempest. These caards r gud now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
玄魔の王 Posted January 4, 2014 Report Share Posted January 4, 2014 Nobody mentions Thousand-Eyes Idol? Its raison d'etre is banned, leaving it a 0/0 Vanilla for no reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted January 4, 2014 Report Share Posted January 4, 2014 First off, it's definitely Larva Moth, since it requires Petit Moth (a 300/200 Level 1 Normal) equipped with Cocoon (a Level 3 0/2000), to be in play for EXACTLY 2 turns to Special Summon a 500 ATK monster by Tributing it, but only if it's in your hand at that time. Even Great Moth and Perfectly Ultimate, while similarly stupidly hard to play, have actual stats of value. There are definitely some solid candidates for worst card ever, but some of them come from the very beginning of the game and are naturally underwhelming because of how poor the card pool was, and cards that DID have a use, but no longer do (such as all the cards that require banned cards to use). But I've yet to find a card as genuinely bad as Larva Moth on the basis that Cocoon of Evolution itself is MUCH better than it (the 2000 DEF). I disagree that it ever had a use in its own Deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heraldry_lord Posted January 4, 2014 Report Share Posted January 4, 2014 Nobody mentions Thousand-Eyes Idol? Its raison d'etre is banned, leaving it a 0/0 Vanilla for no reason. Box of Buddies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
玄魔の王 Posted January 4, 2014 Report Share Posted January 4, 2014 Box of Buddies To what end? Couple it with Wonder Wand for a slow and unwieldy draw engine? Erm, nah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faytl Posted January 4, 2014 Report Share Posted January 4, 2014 Can you say useless minus? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goddamnit names are a pain Posted January 4, 2014 Report Share Posted January 4, 2014 Can you say useless minus? I don't know, I'd run in Exodia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faytl Posted January 4, 2014 Report Share Posted January 4, 2014 I could see that if you got to draw cards equal to the number of cards returned... as it is, it just places stuff at the bottom of your deck for putting a 900 atk monster in attack mode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
玄魔の王 Posted January 4, 2014 Report Share Posted January 4, 2014 An Unfortunate Report Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faytl Posted January 4, 2014 Report Share Posted January 4, 2014 Unfortunate Report with Yubel/Heart-Earth and Battle Mania has uses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGATHODAIMON BANGTAIL COW Posted January 4, 2014 Report Share Posted January 4, 2014 Can you say useless minus? "It's effect sucks, so it's worse than Armored Starfish." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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