Blake Posted March 20, 2014 Report Share Posted March 20, 2014 Have people just forgotten that this is an unfair, broken ass card or something? I don't see how you can forget a walking foolish that comes from the extra deck and has a laughable cost is balanced, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Posted March 20, 2014 Report Share Posted March 20, 2014 All it does is create unfair combos in decks that abuse the Graveyard. See: - Gem-Knights - Heraldics - Zombies - Lightsworn - Infernity - Others I am forgetting Had it not been generic, people wouldn't even bother with it. However, since it is generic, it should be @0. I really hope no one disagrees with me. This has pretty much been the popular opinion since this card was announced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bringerofcake Posted March 20, 2014 Report Share Posted March 20, 2014 It's not JUST a Foolish. Being a foolish implies it mills monsters only. This literally mills ANYTHING, which while not SUPER important does open up shit with spell/trap recycling. Also, have people conveniently forgotten that you can stack any monster on top of your deck? When this card first came out I thought that was the most broken part of it. I've since been disproven, but that is still too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zauls Posted March 20, 2014 Report Share Posted March 20, 2014 Yeah this card creates combos that shouldn't exist and is just generally not healthy for the game. Foolish is @1 for a reason, and this is just a walking Foolish that can be done twice if it survives and also has a nice other effect that can be useful (I'm looking at you, Infernity Archfiend). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildflame Posted March 20, 2014 Report Share Posted March 20, 2014 My only real issue with this card is in Infernity (then again, Infernities are to blame). And maaaybe Zombies too, they abuse it a bit too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goddamnit names are a pain Posted March 20, 2014 Report Share Posted March 20, 2014 You see, I don't want this banned- I really don't. But it makes sense. You know why, other than the reasons above (which I have to mostly agree with)? Limiting it would do NOTHING. No one ever really plays more than 1 and so it wouldn't do anything to have it at 1- the only solution is to ban it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunar Origins Posted March 20, 2014 Report Share Posted March 20, 2014 Doubt it will get touched. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted March 21, 2014 Report Share Posted March 21, 2014 It does kind of deserve to get hit. Rank 4s have so many options these days, and so many archetypes devoted to them, especially archetypes that love the Graveyard, that it just does SO much. The card's price seems to be on-par with 101 lately. The ability to send ANY card is way awesome. Just sending monsters would also be awesome, but any CARD gives things like Gem-Knights their key card essentially for free. Sure, Gem-Knights don't do much, but it's still painful. Then Zombies and Heraldics smirk wickedly. Infernity abuses it, but Infernity isn't on my radar much. I love the card, but it seems to be getting more and more abusable as time goes on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delibirb Posted March 21, 2014 Report Share Posted March 21, 2014 The monster stacking thing is the less used but potentially just as deadly as the foolish. I always go back to this it seems, but this card is what made my Gallis Otk work. Topdeck the 2-3 pieces I don't have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted March 21, 2014 Report Share Posted March 21, 2014 I remember mostly using the monster stack effect with my Rescue Rabbit Deck, to stack things like Rabbit, Tour Guide, or BLS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not-so-Radiant Arin Posted March 21, 2014 Report Share Posted March 21, 2014 I don't remember anyone saying this card was an "unfair, broken ass card" upon it's release. In fact, I pretty much heard this card was like the most ingenious thing ever. And then more and more Archetypes got released that abuse the graveyard, and suddenly this card is the victim. Isn't it the Archetype's fault for being stupid, in that case? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted March 21, 2014 Report Share Posted March 21, 2014 I don't remember anyone saying this card was an "unfair, broken ass card" upon it's release.Part of it was because 1800 ATK isn't really intimidating.But yes, because this card is an always on-hand Foolish Burial, it just got crazier by the minute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted March 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2014 I don't remember anyone saying this card was an "unfair, broken ass card" upon it's release. In fact, I pretty much heard this card was like the most ingenious thing ever. And then more and more Archetypes got released that abuse the graveyard, and suddenly this card is the victim. Isn't it the Archetype's fault for being stupid, in that case? People were cautious of it the moment it was printed and by the second thread it was labeled broken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
玄魔の王 Posted March 22, 2014 Report Share Posted March 22, 2014 People were cautious of it the moment it was printed and by the second thread it was labeled broken. Honestly I feel that says more about how Konami structured this game than anything else. With all the Graveyard interaction that exists, it's practically a game of necromancy. OT: if memory serves, at one point people found Emeral better than this. That did not last. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suibon Posted March 22, 2014 Report Share Posted March 22, 2014 ITT: Focused milling (with requisite costs and/or restrictions) is borked, blah blah blah -- Of course this game is all about plusses out of hats and asses these days (as Supply Unit in its ingratiating, no-deck's-behind-left way has amply showed) -- but shouldn't there be some questioning on the cards it mills, on the combos it's a part of, the effort it takes for this to be dropped, et cetera? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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