werewolfjedi Posted May 31, 2014 Report Share Posted May 31, 2014 I know I know, this card is not that great at all. but I would so love to pull off an OTK with this or something, or possibility what would amount to a semi-yata lock, since I could force a card to the top of their deck every turn. at the cost of half my life points. yeah. is there a way to pull this off at all, or should I just sigh and put it back in the box. (looking at you soul charge.) only thing coming up for me is frogs and luimura, but if I want to try that hard I might as well just make 2 other XYZs and end it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bringerofcake Posted June 1, 2014 Report Share Posted June 1, 2014 guys guys Dark Rebellion Astral Forces into this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted June 1, 2014 Report Share Posted June 1, 2014 guys guys Dark Rebellion Astral Forces into thisBe a pro and play This in something like Hunders/Gadgets/[Consistent Rank 4 engine]/etcSo then you can open with This: This recovers Astral Force.Repeat for next turn?????????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slinky Posted June 1, 2014 Report Share Posted June 1, 2014 make any rank 5, Argent for 6k damage. then you f*** over their next draw. lol or y'know.. Hazy Flames Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
werewolfjedi Posted June 1, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2014 make any rank 5, Argent for 6k damage. then you f*** over their next draw. lol or y'know.. Hazy Flames how did I forget about them XD that might just work never mind, they only work on fire XYZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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evilfusion Posted June 1, 2014 Report Share Posted June 1, 2014 I've actually been trying to think of a place where this card could be viable. Its effect is really cool, albeit costly with the LP cost, and Argent Chaos Force can make it off of any Rank 5. I really like its effect, as it has so much versatility just on that "attach" effect alone. You can return a useless card to the top of the opponent's Deck, or steal a significant card and attach it to this. You could attach something you want to re-send to the Graveyard (Dandylion type effects), and/or recycle something valuable. The extra attack effect puzzles me a little, as it's not really clear whether you can do what Vector did, and keep detaching to keep attacking, or if you can just do it once, since it's not once-per-turn, and it just says "again in a row", rather than "once again in a row". The biggest issue I feel it has is that the majority of Rank 5s are REALLY, really good cards on their own, and even with Argent Chaos Force...how often do you actually want to get rid of your Rank 5? If you wait until its purpose has expired, such as with Constellar Pleiades/etc, C5 will only have 1000 ATK, and it'll cost half your LP to become a 2000/etc. Even if you use Argent without using any Overlays, it'll have about 3000, which is respectable, but which Rank 5 did you feel was worth Summoning and Ranking-Up without using its Overlays? Plus, Gaia Dragon the Thunder Charger is usually an option for upgrading a useless Rank 5, without actually costing another card. The best thing I can think of is C101, due to how it can easily keep gaining Overlays...and why exactly did you get rid of the amazingness of C101? Even if C101 is useless on the Field with Overlays due to like Fiendish Chain or something, it's still a 2800 that'll revive itself if they kill it and replenish 2800 LP. And what Deck are you running that can bring out C101 and still run Argent (which doesn't help Summon C101)? Alas, it's a card with a lot of potential, but isn't quite able to use that potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
玄魔の王 Posted June 1, 2014 Report Share Posted June 1, 2014 The extra attack effect puzzles me a little, as it's not really clear whether you can do what Vector did, and keep detaching to keep attacking, or if you can just do it once, since it's not once-per-turn, and it just says "again in a row", rather than "once again in a row". I think it does allow repeated attacks, though since it gets Weaker each time that isn't worth much. I'm hoping that when Number 5 sees eventual Release (because it's inevitable), it has an effect that boosts its own Xyz Material count. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
werewolfjedi Posted June 1, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2014 that shouldn't work I believe.well with the c 101, after stealing twice it'd have 4 mat under this, which is enough for an otk. 4 3 2 1 = 10k damage. it can kill even if you played goblin that game and hadn't delt damage yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Warden Posted June 1, 2014 Report Share Posted June 1, 2014 Just saying Evil, but in the occasion you have a Rank 5 out and Argent is in your hand, you are pretty much going to make Abyss Supra 9 times outta 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heraldry_lord Posted June 1, 2014 Report Share Posted June 1, 2014 Just saying Evil, but in the occasion you have a Rank 5 out and Argent is in your hand, you are pretty much going to make Abyss Supra 9 times outta 10. This. Sad to say (or maybe not, since the anime went down this road), but Abyss Supra Splash is generally the superior Rank 6 Argent Chaos Force option to Chaos Chimera Dragon. What has the potential to make this better is the elusive Des Chimera Dragon. Maybe Des Chimera could get an effect that attaches Xyz Materials from the Graveyard to itself for a nice, but weaker ATK boost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted June 1, 2014 Report Share Posted June 1, 2014 that shouldn't work I believe. well with the c 101, after stealing twice it'd have 4 mat under this, which is enough for an otk. 4 3 2 1 = 10k damage. it can kill even if you played goblin that game and hadn't delt damage yet. I think he meant The Seventh One would be a funny card to stack on top of the Deck (assuming you didn't activate it already this Duel). But also, keep in mind that C5 can only attack monsters with its extra attack(s). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
werewolfjedi Posted June 1, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2014 I think he meant The Seventh One would be a funny card to stack on top of the Deck (assuming you didn't activate it already this Duel). But also, keep in mind that C5 can only attack monsters with its extra attack(s). oh right. shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delibirb Posted June 1, 2014 Report Share Posted June 1, 2014 I've been wanting to find a use for this as well, it is such an interesting card. Hopefully Des Chimera will make this more viable, but for the time being, it is just too much of a stretch to make this. A lot like Number 92, in that it can be a powerful wincon, but it's too inconsistent to pull off with very much efficiency. Could be used in the Artifact mirror with Admiration of the Thousands, after some Xyz have been killed? Probably not a good idea, but a potentially functional one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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