El-Shaddoll Shekinaga (NECH)

[Maeriberii Haan]

El Shaddoll Shekhinaga
Level (8~10??) EARTH(?) Machine-Type Effect
Fusion Monster
ATK 2600
DEF Unknown (3000?)
1 “Shaddoll” monster + 1 EARTH monster Must first be Fusion Summoned. You can only
use the (1) effect of “El Shaddoll Shekinaga”
once per turn. (1) When your opponent
activates the effect of a Special Summoned
monster, if you have a “Shaddoll” card in
your hand: You can negate that activation, and if you do, destroy that monster, then send 1
“Shaddoll” card from your hand to the
Graveyard. (2) If this card is sent to the
Graveyard: You can target 1 “Shaddoll”
Spell/Trap Card in your Graveyard; add that
target to your hand.

Effect is not fully confirmed. check back later for final info.

[Northern Sage]

Karakuri? Or at least a combination of it and Herald of Perfection…

That negation effect not being OPT seems dangerous.

[TheTurtleOnceCalledGod]

You can only use the 1 effect once per turn...

[Northern Sage]

You can only use the 1 effect once per turn...

My mistake. Sorry.

[-Noel-]

I'm pretty sure its DEF is 3000, and with that I just fail to find its original card with that weird stat aside CNo.6

[The Warden]

The wikia seems to assume that it combines the elements of Nephilim and Qliphoths. So maybe this card is a result of the Qliphoths trying to imprison her, hence why she's bound to the throne-like structure.

[Maeriberii Haan]

Trivia time! Shekhinah is a feminine attribute of God in judaism (as espected from Shaddolls, though this concept also exists in other Abrahamic religions as well). As for the card itself, Mathematician is happy.

[Dementuo]

Weird, it looks like Nephilim. I Guess that means our original theory of them all being Gem-Knights is more or less debunked.

It really does seem weird though. Level 10, 3000 DEF... So very odd.

[Althemia]

Weird, it looks like Nephilim. I Guess that means our original theory of them all being Gem-Knights is more or less debunked.
It really does seem weird though. Level 10, 3000 DEF... So very odd.

Actually, this one's a Qlipoth with a GK. It just got "infected" per say when it seemingly beat Nephilim, which you can quite clearly see too since Nephilim's limp. May just be Nephilim taking her place on top of the Qlipoth after she beat it though

Good material requirement so it'll definitely be played, despite it's rather meh effect. Mathematician4days

[Jord200]

The wikia seems to assume that it combines the elements of Nephilim and Qliphoths. So maybe this card is a result of the Qliphoths trying to imprison her, hence why she's bound to the throne-like structure.

 

So story-wise, its potentially a fusion of Qilphoths and Nephilim, and or an upgrade of the later?

 

They tried to imprision her, and she overpowered them. 

 

 

And yeah, DEF is for sure 3000.

[Greiga]

Math

[Alastar Rainford]

So if DT world is all data...then would that put
Shaddolls as a Virus
Qliphoths are a Vaccine
Wyvern and Stellarknights are Data

Funny enough Nephilim looks like early concept sketches of Yggdr from Digimon.

[Greiga]

Wait so you can bring up Beast numbers now in order to recover cards this and Egrystal keep discarding right?

[Slinky]

So basically.. its a walking TTT Nightmare, that doesnt care if it was summoned that turn or not. 

 

On top of that, it has huge stats, its EARTH, meaning, a good reason to run Mathematician instead of Armageddon now (if you want to send Beast, just send Lizard first). It also gives a semi-decent reason to run Exodius to refill the deck and providing a rank 10 play if you have space.

 

I can only think of 7 popular ways to get rid of this thing.

 

1) Fire Hand

2) Leo, Keeper of Sacred Tree

3) Star Eater

4) Compuls

5) Bottomless

6) Super Poly

7) Breakthrough Skill + Castel/Deltateros/various

 

Can't kill it in battle outside of Leo/Star Eater, use an extra deck monster, and its being negated unless you have breakthrough..

This thing is nuts. I'm starting to think Shaddolls are becoming an auto-scoop deck.

 

On the plus-side, Non-Fusion Area is starting to look really good now for both Heroes and Shadolls. It would at least prevent this thing from coming out in the first place.

[Darj]

Yay for another omni ElShaddoll.

 

Actually, this one's a Qlipoth with a GK. It just got "infected" per say when it seemingly beat Nephilim, which you can quite clearly see too since Nephilim's limp. May just be Nephilim taking her place on top of the Qlipoth after she beat it though

Good material requirement so it'll definitely be played, despite it's rather meh effect. Mathematician4days

 

I agree with both. Story wise, Nephilim overpowering Qliphoths after they tried to contain her makes sense. The Type/Attribute of the card further support this. As for which monster is this card based on, my bet is that they will release a Level 10 Qliphoth with the same stats eventually, just like when they revealed Midrash and we had no idea from where her dragon mount came from, and later they revealed the Wind Yang Zing.

 

And the effect may not be that great, but the card will be used, at least for Super-Poly plays.

 

 

So Shaddolls hurt Yang Zings (Facing the Shadows), stood against Tellarkights even took one of them (Shaddoll Lizard), are destroying the Sacred Tree (El Shaddoll Fusion), and now they are resisting Qliphoths, who most likely were meant to control them (virus vs. vaccine theory); at the same time, as far as I know, there is no card yet that shows any of those archetypes harming Shaddolls. It looks like the DT World is hopeless, at least for now.

 

By the way, Egrystal is a walking Black Horn, and this a walking Traptrix Hole Nightmare. I wonder if the remaining Elshaddolls will also have effects based on negation Traps.

[Blake]

So basically.. its a walking TTT Nightmare, that doesnt care if it was summoned that turn or not. 

 

On top of that, it has huge stats, its EARTH, meaning, a good reason to run Mathematician instead of Armageddon now (if you want to send Beast, just send Lizard first). It also gives a semi-decent reason to run Exodius to refill the deck and providing a rank 10 play if you have space.

 

I can only think of 7 popular ways to get rid of this thing.

 

1) Fire Hand

2) Leo, Keeper of Sacred Tree

3) Star Eater

4) Compuls

5) Bottomless

6) Super Poly you only side this in v. satellar so no

7) Breakthrough Skill + Castel/Deltateros/various

 

Can't kill it in battle outside of Leo/Star Eater, use an extra deck monster, and its being negated unless you have breakthrough..

This thing is nuts. I'm starting to think Shaddolls are becoming an auto-scoop deck.

 

On the plus-side, Non-Fusion Area is starting to look really good now for both Heroes and Shadolls. It would at least prevent this thing from coming out in the first place.

now to dissect the fuck out of this

 

The OCG already ran Math. Why? They played a build with DAD and Eclipse Wyvern. However, this is shit in the TCG. Because we only have 1 DAD.

 

The TCG has double RotA to consider. There's also the fact this isn't as generically solid as Midrash, though it's not bad at all. Not sure if it's worth using Math over Arma, though it does get a 26/30 instead of a 22/8.

 

Exodius already had a semi-decent, and running R10s is fucking terrible because you in no way have the space.

 

The Lizard/Beast comment was dumb because that's what you aim to do T1 with armaknight anyways. It also has nothing to do with Math v ArmaKnight.

 

Non-Fusion area is still terrible, and Shaddolls are in no way an auto-scoop deck. They seek to extend the game and grind it out with a lot of consistency but not too much power. Satellars and Yang Zing both have much stronger power, but Shaddolls are much more consistent. The idea is you kill Dolls fast.

[Slinky]

Are you saying Heroes don't main Super Poly? Because y'know, that new structure deck made them a popular deck again.

[Blake]

Heroes don't main super poly ._.

 

I mean maybe some shitty OCG builds do, but that's the OCG being shit as always. It isn't good in the main.

[Slinky]

Heroes arent relevant in the TCG because we dont have the structure deck, and when they were relevant, they did main Super Poly... So... why would they be siding it again? It'd probably be more accurate to side in a Gaia, since Super Poly would clear the path for a turn against Midrash and Nephilim for an Escuridao and Shining respectively, and give a chance for game.

[Blake]

Heroes arent relevant in the TCG because we dont have the structure deck, and when they were relevant, they did main Super Poly... So... why would they be siding it again? It'd probably be more accurate to side in a Gaia, since Super Poly would clear the path for a turn against Midrash and Nephilim for an Escuridao and Shining respectively, and give a chance for game.

There's this thing called playing online. Maybe you've heard of it?

 

YAY, I CAN SET OFF A SHADDOLL FUSION AND LET MYSELF LOSE BECAUSE THEY HAD AN ANSWER AND GOT FUSION BACK! WHAT A GOOD CARD CHOICE!

[Agro]

Good HEROes didn't main super poly when they were relevant.

[Slinky]

Because Playing online is actually comparable to playing in real life. But point taken.

 

But either way, chances are, they already used Shadoll Fusion that turn, so they can't use it again, and its also unlikely they'd have the resources for the El-Shaddoll Fusion if you didn't have an extra deck monster at the time. 

Basically, my point was, if they super poly a nephilim/midrash, they are going to try to push for game before they can use that Shaddoll Fusion again.

[Blake]

Because Playing online is actually comparable to playing in real life. But point taken.

 

But either way, chances are, they already used Shadoll Fusion that turn, so they can't use it again, and its also unlikely they'd have the resources for the El-Shaddoll Fusion if you didn't have an extra deck monster at the time. 

Basically, my point was, if they super poly a nephilim/midrash, they are going to try to push for game before they can use that Shaddoll Fusion again.

It is when you're agaisnt competent players like the higher ranking on DN.

 

How is it unlikely they'd still have resources. Have you ever, ever even played agaisnt the deck? It excels in maintaining resources. That's what the deck does; It hits the opp's resources down whilst maintaining its own. To expect dolls to not have resources, especially when you Super Poly them and waste yours, is plain stupid.

 

Basically, your point was shit. Heroes aren't a deck that can push shit in without having good set up before hand, and super poly has a very strong chance of reducing that setup thanks to its cost. Shadow Mist can mitigate, but that's about it.

 

Superpoly is not mained. The end.

[Slinky]

That's not what I meant by comparable. Online there is a full random factor, whereas irl, what you dump makes a huge difference depending on where it was in the deck due to manual shuffling. Say you dump or search a shadow mist, you can see which one you'd like to search/dump depending on what cards were on top and below it. And make a decision to reduce the potency of dead draws by attempting to rerandomize your deck afterwards through the shuffling. Since shuffling irl never provides a full random factor, you can logically deduce what cards are where after a decent shuffle if you saw the contents of the deck beforehand like you would in searching.

 

As for the shaddolls, the deck maintains resources by conserving the hand through the effects of what was used in the fusion, but only gains actual advantage when you use the main deck for fusion material (because it doesnt use cards in the hand). Unless they sent both a Hedgehog and a Beast for the initial Shadoll Fusion to replenish what was used in the hand at the time (which chances are, would be from the hand and field initially if Super Poly was set), they wouldnt be able to afford dumping more stuff or reusing a falcon just to get another fusion onto the field through the use of El-Shaddoll Fusion, especially if multiple copies of cards were drawn.

[Blake]

That's not what I meant by comparable. Online there is a full random factor, whereas irl, what you dump makes a huge difference depending on where it was in the deck due to manual shuffling. Say you dump or search a shadow mist, you can see which one you'd like to search/dump depending on what cards were on top and below it. And make a decision to reduce the potency of dead draws by attempting to rerandomize your deck afterwards through the shuffling. Since shuffling irl never provides a full random factor, you can logically deduce what cards are where after a decent shuffle if you saw the contents of the deck beforehand like you would in searching.

 

As for the shaddolls, the deck maintains resources by conserving the hand through the effects of what was used in the fusion, but only gains actual advantage when you use the main deck for fusion material (because it doesnt use cards in the hand). Unless they sent both a Hedgehog and a Beast for the initial Shadoll Fusion to replenish what was used in the hand at the time (which chances are, would be from the hand and field initially if Super Poly was set), they wouldnt be able to afford dumping more stuff or reusing a falcon just to get another fusion onto the field through the use of El-Shaddoll Fusion, especially if multiple copies of cards were drawn.

So basically, you'r implying that the opponent doesn't have the right to reshuffle your deck after you do. Or at least cut your deck. And even if you then cut your deck again, they get the chance for a second time. So this point isn't even completely relevant.

 

It maintains resources in general because all of their effects pay you. You also +1 when you make Nephilim with Shaddollroots.

 

And on top of that, you're not even correct about how you use the damn cards. Yes you send beast a lot, but Hedgehog is only used when you're setting up for another fusion immediately/searching Falcon to Synchro/from the hand. You almost never send it from deck to grave, ever, unless you need one of the former criteria filled immediately or you're short on dolls to mill. The deck almost always have the advantage to continue to combo off if they have both fusions, especially considering the first would pay for itself. Reusing falcon if you have to is absolutely fine, and to say it isn't is ignorant of any knowledge on the deck.