Blake Posted January 16, 2015 Report Share Posted January 16, 2015 Superheavy Samurai Tamashii Level 2 DARK Machine-Type Tuner Effect Monster ATK 100 DEF 800 You can only use the ability of “Superheavy Samurai Tamashii” once per turn. (1) If you control no monsters, except for “Superheavy Samurai” monsters, and there are no Spell/Trap Cards in your Graveyard: You can target 1 face-up monster your opponent controls; send that monster and this card from the field to the Graveyard, then, Special Summon 1 “Superheavy Samurai” Synchro Monster whose Level is equal to the combined original Levels of the monsters sent to the Graveyard. (This Special Summon is treated as a Synchro Summon.) No pic cause phone That's /a/ reason to play the Mash they want it to be, and Oni is another one. 2 reasons! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maeriberii Haan Posted January 16, 2015 Report Share Posted January 16, 2015 2 reason is not enough yet. Still, it's a really strong card for what it does, even if it's only useful in killing level 4 and 8s atm. well, which is the main levels running around. When Superheavies becomes cohesive enough for an actual mash style, then it'll be great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atypical-Abbie Posted January 16, 2015 Report Share Posted January 16, 2015 I guess that you can use Mischief of the Gnomes since you can just banish it from the Graveyard afterwards, but honestly, it sounds a bit situational regardless. It's way easier to make their Synchros with other Tuners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
玄魔の王 Posted January 16, 2015 Report Share Posted January 16, 2015 What the Deck really needs is an Eccentric Boy-style Tuner. This is a cool trick since it cheats their conditions and gets an enemy monster off the board, but the deck most likely to leave a LV4 or 8 on the board right now is Qli, and we all know the problem there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slinky Posted January 16, 2015 Report Share Posted January 16, 2015 What the Deck really needs is an Eccentric Boy-style Tuner. This is a cool trick since it cheats their conditions and gets an enemy monster off the board, but the deck most likely to leave a LV4 or 8 on the board right now is Qli, and we all know the problem there. It is treated as a Synchro summon, so, it MAY be able to bypass the Qliphort effect. It's konami, you never know. Wait for rulings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
玄魔の王 Posted January 16, 2015 Report Share Posted January 16, 2015 It is treated as a Synchro summon, so, it MAY be able to bypass the Qliphort effect. It's konami, you never know. Wait for rulings. Even if it bypassed their immunity, Qliphs are all Pendulums and thus don't go to the Grave. By this card's wording, you'd have to summon a LV2, which doesn't exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slinky Posted January 16, 2015 Report Share Posted January 16, 2015 Even if it bypassed their immunity, Qliphs are all Pendulums and thus don't go to the Grave. By this card's wording, you'd have to summon a LV2, which doesn't exist. It wouldn't matter. That only applies if it is as a cost. It isnt a cost here. #readingskills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
玄魔の王 Posted January 16, 2015 Report Share Posted January 16, 2015 It wouldn't matter. That only applies if it is as a cost. It isnt a cost here. #readingskills whose Level is equal to the combined original Levels of the monsters sent to the Graveyard. sent to the Graveyard What was that about reading comprehension? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slinky Posted January 16, 2015 Report Share Posted January 16, 2015 In that case, it wouldn't work with Qlips at all except for the level 8s. Because they don't have level 4s. Also http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Synchro_Summon The mechanic itself defaults by sending to the graveyard, yet tuning with Pendulums or with Macro on the field is a legal move. So.. point? Then again, most of the time Qlips have Skill Drain on the field anyway, so the point is generally moot Basically, it comes down to, is it treated as an actual effect and as such Qlips will be unaffected by it?, or is "Treating as a synchro summon" allow it to bypass them? Konami is not fully consistent with these types of effects and as such, it can really go either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atypical-Abbie Posted January 16, 2015 Report Share Posted January 16, 2015 In that case, it wouldn't work with Qlips at all except for the level 8s. Because they don't have level 4s. Also http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Synchro_Summon The mechanic itself defaults by sending to the graveyard, yet tuning with Pendulums or with Macro on the field is a legal move. So.. point? Then again, most of the time Qlips have Skill Drain on the field anyway, so the point is generally moot Basically, it comes down to, is it treated as an actual effect and as such Qlips will be unaffected by it?, or is "Treating as a synchro summon" allow it to bypass them? Konami is not fully consistent with these types of effects and as such, it can really go either way. It's not a proper Synchro Summon, it's a Special Summon that treats itself as one, and since you can't send Pendulum Monsters to the Graveyard with costs or with cards that Special Summon by sending them, you can't use this on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
玄魔の王 Posted January 16, 2015 Report Share Posted January 16, 2015 In that case, it wouldn't work with Qlips at all except for the level 8s. Because they don't have level 4s. Alsohttp://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Synchro_Summon The mechanic itself defaults by sending to the graveyard, yet tuning with Pendulums or with Macro on the field is a legal move. So.. point? Then again, most of the time Qlips have Skill Drain on the field anyway, so the point is generally moot Basically, it comes down to, is it treated as an actual effect and as such Qlips will be unaffected by it?, or is "Treating as a synchro summon" allow it to bypass them? Konami is not fully consistent with these types of effects and as such, it can really go either way. Qlips often make themselves LV4. Also, it's very clearly an effect that activates and targets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VampireofDarkness Posted January 16, 2015 Report Share Posted January 16, 2015 In that case, it wouldn't work with Qlips at all except for the level 8s. Because they don't have level 4s. Alsohttp://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Synchro_Summon The mechanic itself defaults by sending to the graveyard, yet tuning with Pendulums or with Macro on the field is a legal move. So.. point? Then again, most of the time Qlips have Skill Drain on the field anyway, so the point is generally moot Basically, it comes down to, is it treated as an actual effect and as such Qlips will be unaffected by it?, or is "Treating as a synchro summon" allow it to bypass them? Konami is not fully consistent with these types of effects and as such, it can really go either way. It'll be interesting, but take note that Qlis are running Skill Drain less and less. The only Traps I see now are Qlimate Change and the 1 Re-Qliate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iCherries Posted January 17, 2015 Report Share Posted January 17, 2015 I meanif we got more synchro level variety, this could be more amazing than it is. At least it doesn't make you have to have no monsters period. Wish it could use another one of your monsters to take 2 Level 4s and make Susanoo...blehcome on konami i want steadfast to be good already Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted January 17, 2015 Report Share Posted January 17, 2015 Interesting buff... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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