~British Soul~ Posted February 3, 2015 Report Share Posted February 3, 2015 EARTH/Level 10/Warrior/Effect This card cannot be Normal Summoned or Set. This card cannot be Special Summoned except by Tributing 1 Level 1 Normal Monster that has remained face-up on your side of the field for 10 or more turns. If this card battles with an opponent's monster, it gains ATK and DEF equal to the ATK of the opponent's monster + 1000 during damage calculation only and that monster's effects are negated during the Battle Phase only. This card is unaffected by other card effects. 0/0 discuss? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted February 3, 2015 Report Share Posted February 3, 2015 You are never getting this thing out if it keeps that Summon Condition. Not in this meta. Actually, that was Zushin's whole point: It was so ridiculously hard to Summon and required so much dedication and time, that it had never been Summoned, and was a dirt-cheap common that even audience members to a big-scale tournament carried one around for no reason. Yeah...that was kind of weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delibirb Posted February 3, 2015 Report Share Posted February 3, 2015 Pyro clock of destiny's only use. Will be pretty neat, hopefully. It'll be cool if they keep this basically the same, and release that one card that skips 5 turns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted February 3, 2015 Report Share Posted February 3, 2015 You are never getting this thing out if it keeps that Summon Condition. Not in this meta. Actually, that was Zushin's whole point: It was so ridiculously hard to Summon and required so much dedication and time, that it had never been Summoned, and was a dirt-cheap common that even audience members to a big-scale tournament carried one around for no reason. Yeah...that was kind of weird.TEAM Taiou SCRUB IS THE BEST TEAM.YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heraldry_lord Posted February 3, 2015 Report Share Posted February 3, 2015 Pyro clock of destiny's only use. Will be pretty neat, hopefully. It'll be cool if they keep this basically the same, and release that one card that skips 5 turns. I admit that I like the idea of time-based decks; Final Countdown was probably the only time-based deck where you had a chance of feasibly winning back when it and One Day were both at 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted February 3, 2015 Report Share Posted February 3, 2015 I admit that I like the idea of time-based decks; Final Countdown was probably the only time-based deck where you had a chance of feasibly winning back when it and One Day were both at 3.'Cept Countdown got the boot because they finally realized 'Stall until you win' is the dumbest thing ever.But it's totally acceptable that they release a bunch of other busted shit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slinky Posted February 3, 2015 Report Share Posted February 3, 2015 A Wild Monster Appears breaks this card sooo hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted February 3, 2015 Report Share Posted February 3, 2015 A Wild Monster Appears breaks this card sooo hard.Monster Appears would still return this card.Just sayin' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slinky Posted February 3, 2015 Report Share Posted February 3, 2015 No it wouldn't. The return is a card effect. Zushin is immune to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Warden Posted February 3, 2015 Report Share Posted February 3, 2015 No, it still bounces. The condition that the card returns to the deck is already ingrained in it the moment you chose to SS it from your hand. It's the same exact thing with Vennominaga, as she too is forced to return to the deck during the End Phase despite her revelry of immunities. To put it simply, you can't be unaffected by what has already happened unless it's a continuous effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heraldry_lord Posted February 3, 2015 Report Share Posted February 3, 2015 No it wouldn't. The return is a card effect. Zushin is immune to it. There's a ruling that Vennominaga is shuffled back, despite it being unaffected by other card effects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted February 3, 2015 Report Share Posted February 3, 2015 There's a ruling that Vennominaga is shuffled back, despite it being unaffected by other card effects. This. Seriously, they made a lot of ruling clarifications when Wild Monster got released, including that Vennominaga is not immune, Stardust/AM must be Summoned via Assault Mode Activate to be considered properly Summoned, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slinky Posted February 3, 2015 Report Share Posted February 3, 2015 Huh. Thats news to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted February 3, 2015 Report Share Posted February 3, 2015 I know, right? Konami THINKING is news to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azuh Posted February 3, 2015 Report Share Posted February 3, 2015 Konami screwed up really bad with "A Wild Monster Appears" But anyway, Zushin would be awesome, but I hope they cut it down to at least 3 turns before it can be summoned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zirnon Posted February 4, 2015 Report Share Posted February 4, 2015 Actually, in the show, Zushin wasn't unaffected by card effects because Yusei managed to destroy it. Also, you could only summon it by tributing a Level 1 monster that was on the field for at least 20 turns, not 10. Zushin would be so broken if someone managed to actually summon it. Although if someone manages to keep a Level 1 Normal monster on the field for 20 turns, maybe he or she deserves to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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