ems97 Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 tbh at first I thought to myself how the hell do you summon this, but then I saw void dream (Vanity of Purgatory) and makes this viable not only that but makes Pure Infernoid deck playable. It looks like I have to rely of my lord and savior Infernoid Tierra. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
玄魔の王 Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 Then why the hell, if that's nephilim, isn't it an El Shaddoll? Why konami why. I'm talking about the WATER El Shaddoll. That probably turned into this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iCherries Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 Then why the hell, if that's nephilim, isn't it an El Shaddoll? Why konami why.A little bit from Frozen Void's trivia on the wiki:Judging from the frozen "Shekhinaga", this card's artwork depicts that "Lilith" is the one which controls the combination of it and "Shekhinaga" into "El Shaddoll Anomalilith".So I'm assuming Lilith just went back to her original archetype after being a water fusion for a final form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 A little bit from Frozen Void's trivia on the wiki:So I'm assuming Lilith just went back to her original archetype after being a water fusion for a final form.I'd assume you're on th right track, but not quite there. Think about this; who in the DT controls Ice? Shurit/Trishula. So, Shurit probably succeeded in freezing Shekinaga, only for Lilith to come and thaw the body out and bind with it. Then they took Trish. I assume this, paired with Tierra here, means that Lilith and Nehemoth (sisters in many a lore) are both Tierta, if not all of the Infernoids. So Lilith didn't "go back to her deck", Tierra unlocked her true form when she managed to bind herself with Lilith to save her life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
玄魔の王 Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 I'd assume you're on th right track, but not quite there. Think about this; who in the DT controls Ice? Shurit/Trishula. So, Shurit probably succeeded in freezing Shekinaga, only for Lilith to come and thaw the body out and bind with it. Then they took Trish. I assume this, paired with Tierra here, means that Lilith and Nehemoth (sisters in many a lore) are both Tierta, if not all of the Infernoids. So Lilith didn't "go back to her deck", Tierra unlocked her true form when she managed to bind herself with Lilith to save her life. Then both the Infernoid sisters and Nephilim are part of Tierra. That makes sense, but it raises a lot more questions. How did she end up in multiple pieces? Though give how powerful she is, it suddenly makes sense why Sophia tried to reset the world: trying to get rid of her. Then Sombre and Kery stopped her. Are we sure those two were the good guys? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 Infernoid Tirek- *shot* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 What...is this thing? I think this is the first Fusion that explicitly has effects based on an absurd number of Fusion Materials. Granted, the Chimeratechs do stuff based on the number of Materials, but it's more like "we can do stuff this many times based on the Materials", whereas this outright does stuff if you used 3, 5, 8, or 10 Materials. Which off the bat sounds ludicrous. But whatever this "Void Dream" card is must be terrifying to behold. Will go to that topic next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 What...is this thing? I think this is the first Fusion that explicitly has effects based on an absurd number of Fusion Materials. Granted, the Chimeratechs do stuff based on the number of Materials, but it's more like "we can do stuff this many times based on the Materials", whereas this outright does stuff if you used 3, 5, 8, or 10 Materials. Which off the bat sounds ludicrous. But whatever this "Void Dream" card is must be terrifying to behold. Will go to that topic next. It's not 8 or 10, but 6 i still pretty high in a non-fusion archetype. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 To be fair, Worm Zero hasn't been on the radar for like...years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pchi Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 To be fair, Worm Zero hasn't been on the radar for like...years. I wonder if they intend to release a Worm Void Dream someday as legacy support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 You know, back in the Chosen Warriors of the Zefra topic, I said: Where's the Infernoid support, "if you have 10 different banished Infernoid monsters, banish both players decks"? I want to clarify that it was meant as a joke, not for something for Konami to actually do. Be careful what you wish for, folks. But slightly off topic, if Worms get new broken legacy support, does that mean Ally of Justice will be relevant again? :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slinky Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 You know, back in the Chosen Warriors of the Zefra topic, I said: I want to clarify that it was meant as a joke, not for something for Konami to actually do. Be careful what you wish for, folks. But slightly off topic, if Worms get new broken legacy support, does that mean Ally of Justice will be relevant again? :D Again? Ally of Justice was never relevant aside from their synchroes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinny Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 Then both the Infernoid sisters and Nephilim are part of Tierra. That makes sense, but it raises a lot more questions. How did she end up in multiple pieces? Though give how powerful she is, it suddenly makes sense why Sophia tried to reset the world: trying to get rid of her. Then Konami stopped her because money. yeah, this story line is more accurate xD But yeah, seriously, how did it end up in 3 pieces in the first place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pchi Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 And as a side bonus, she made both Nehemoth AND Lilith searchable; not that would be very useful in this type of Deck, but... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinny Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 And as a side bonus, she made both Nehemoth AND Lilith searchable; not that would be very useful in this type of Deck, but... But thats assuming they dont rage quit after reading void dream. I think that once you've got her out then youve practically won, just use a second void dream, summon another lilith and bobs your uncle, your opponent is pretty much field-less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delibirb Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 I just hope Tierra gets another form that is more generic Like Sophia, because then there could be potential to run a DT god deck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jord200 Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 Then both the Infernoid sisters and Nephilim are part of Tierra. That makes sense, but it raises a lot more questions. How did she end up in multiple pieces? Though give how powerful she is, it suddenly makes sense why Sophia tried to reset the world: trying to get rid of her. Then Sombre and Kery stopped her. Are we sure those two were the good guys? Sombres and Kery probably didn't know about Tierra until it was too late. I'm guessing either Sophia or someone else split Tierra up. Sophia may have been hunting Teirra, but she was ruining the world at the same time. Sombres and Kery went to stop her, and Sophia either didn't care, bother to explain, or most likely was no better than Tierra. OR maybe it was like in Gurren Lagann. You beat the current threat, and hs dying words warn of a future greater one. Keep in mind, after the Verz, the Vylons, and the Steelswarms, all of which are Sophia's doing, and what went on in Act 1 which may have been Tierra's doing, the only ones left alive were Avance Emilia Kamui Reeze Roach The four Natuira Synchros Sombres Kerykion Crystal ( Sort of ) Sacred Ploymesseir M7 ( Possibly ) Pholgis ( I think. Don't quote me on that. ) Everyone else was dead. Plus, what would reseting the world do, unless she wanted to spawn a world without her? Sophia probably wanted all the diasters to wipe out Tierra, and reset it each time it failed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 Maybe Konami is setting up the meta to reflect the story Necloth Sophia vs. Infernoid Tierra ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darj Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 This card is amazing. The crazy effect, the boon it gives to Infernoid along their Fusion Spell, and the lore behind it. I like how it confirms Tierra's/Nephilim purpose with releasing Qliphorts and consequently Infernoids. Kinda off-topic but now I wonder what will happen to the rest of the Shaddolls: asumming Shaddolls are freed from Tierra's control now that she hypothetically no longer needs them, wouldn't then they suffer this cliched clone syndrome of questioning and seeking their life and purpose and all of that? Or would they just "die", so to speak, since they are literally puppets, and with no puppeteer there wouldn't be anyone to keep them active and live? Would be interesting if Zefras could and decided to take control over them to fight Tierra. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pchi Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 But thats assuming they dont rage quit after reading void dream. I think that once you've got her out then youve practically won, just use a second void dream, summon another lilith and bobs your uncle, your opponent is pretty much field-less. You won't be able to fuse with Dream by sending monsters from the Deck to the Graveyard, though, since you'll be controlling a Fusion monster at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 You won't be able to fuse with Dream by sending monsters from the Deck to the Graveyard, though, since you'll be controlling a Fusion monster at the time. He means to make Tierra Level 1 instead of 11, and then spam out all of the materials you sent to the grave with Void Dream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armoire Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 This is the soul that inhabited construct. Tierra was the one controlling each and every El-Shaddoll Oh, that makes sense now. I was thinking that the soul went and so Construct was just left to rot, so maybe the empty shell could evolve. Obviously, I was wrong. Also, with the Zefra Shaddolls, like Voltex said, does that mean the Shaddolls are questioning their purpose now or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delibirb Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 Oh, that makes sense now. I was thinking that the soul went and so Construct was just left to rot, so maybe the empty shell could evolve. Obviously, I was wrong. Also, with the Zefra Shaddolls, like Voltex said, does that mean the Shaddolls are questioning their purpose now or something? From what I understand, Or Shaddoll Zefra Core is the revived husk of Cairngorgon after Egryatal left it, and Je Shaddoll Zefra Naga is Kerykion. They simply took the namesakes of the Shaddolls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 From what I understand, Or Shaddoll Zefra Core is the revived husk of Cairngorgon after Egryatal left it, and Je Shaddoll Zefra Naga is Kerykion. They simply took the namesakes of the Shaddolls. This. They're just the good guys (Crystal regaining his sanity, Kerykeion reclaiming his staves/self) that had been dolls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delibirb Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 This. They're just the good guys (Crystal regaining his sanity, Kerykeion reclaiming his staves/self) that had been dolls. Cause if the Shaddolls as a whole were now good, Wendi would not need to be rescued as in Zefrassault. The rest of the Dolls are just dead, or at least uninvolved in the current mayhem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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