iCherries Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 Just because an archetype has Tuners, it doesn't mean the archetype will necessarily have Synchros. Just look at Shaddoll Falco for that one. This card seems pretty nutty from what I've seen of Infernoids, though I've been out of the game for ages so idk much about them as a whole. I'll give you Falco, but the possibility still makes me uncomfortable. Same with the potential Xyz. Shaddoll Falco is a Tuner?Yeah, that's why people ran Beelze in Shaddolls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
玄魔の王 Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 Shaddoll Falco is a Tuner? Please tell me you're being sarcastic. Also, I looked it up, a Dekatron is a machine that counts decades or something like that. So it's not Qliphoth-based at all, more like Tierra reconfigured the Qliphorts' remains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jord200 Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 Please tell me you're being sarcastic. I never played against Shaddolls. I've been on hiatus from the game since Shaddolls/Qilphorts became a thing. Second, oh, so I'm supposed to have a card I don't use, or even think I own for that matter memorized. Third, I probably did know, and just forgot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
玄魔の王 Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 Shaddoll Falco is a Tuner? Please tell me you're being sarcastic. Also, I looked it up, a Dekatron is a machine that counts decades or something like that. So it's not Qliphoth-based at all, more like Tierra reconfigured the Qliphorts' remains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Althemia Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 Yeah, that's why people ran Beelze in Shaddolls.Don't remember anyone doing that, mostly because they didn't play any Level 6s last time I checked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
玄魔の王 Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 I never played against Shaddolls. I've been on hiatus from the game since Shaddolls/Qilphorts became a thing. Second, oh, so I'm supposed to have a card I don't use, or even think I own for that matter memorized. Third, I probably did know, and just forgot. One look at a Shaddoll decklist would show Synchros, so obviously somebody in the archetype was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maeriberii Haan Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 The main thing why it's possible for them to get a Synchro is because of the fact that their continuous traps are completely xenophobic. Since they're seemingly trying to push the deck as being as pure as possible, being a tuner would be odd unless they're making a Synch. It's ofc not something that's 100% true, but it has a good chance to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iCherries Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 Don't remember anyone doing that, mostly because they didn't play any Level 6s last time I checked.I remember a couple of decklists here that had it, I wasn't sure how they made it though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 The main thing why it's possible for them to get a Synchro is because of the fact that their continuous traps are completely xenophobic. Players don't care about the continuous traps. If anything, this card just makes the Reasoning version of the deck even MORE superior than Void Launch, and you should start winning games before needing to worry about resources Rising Void returns because of Void Dream basically being + infinity. That, of course, doesn't mean Konami won't make one, since they seem totally deluded about Infernoids, but I'd be stunned if they managed to make it on par with the things we're already getting here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maeriberii Haan Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 Konami is not deluded when they make the xenophobic traps. Being reasoning-compatible's simply a side effect of the entire deal since it's very clear that they're intending this to be as much of a not abusable archetype as possible. They limit their ability to OTK, they limit interaction with other cards. and then it boils down to the fact that they had to make them reasoning-able so they can get away with giving them relatively powerful generic effects on the field. By the way, the pure build so far is more consistent than reasoning build post Frozen Void. They're weak to MST and all kind of backrow removal, but it's very clear that Konami's serious when they're handling the pure side of things. They're far from deluded. Also, it doesn't matter which build is more popular when it comes to how Konami makes the card. If they make a 'noid Synch for the sole reason so it can be summoned without popping the cont trap, so be it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 They gave Infernoids a motherfucking Tuner....Oh man, I can't breatheStop it Konami, my sidesxD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pchi Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 A Synchro!? I'd be surprised if they didn't get a freaking Xyz too!!! Oh, god, they used to laugh so much at us Infernoid players. Well, who's laughing now, huh!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slinky Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 A Synchro!? I'd be surprised if they didn't get a freaking Xyz too!!! Oh, god, they used to laugh so much at us Infernoid players. Well, who's laughing now, huh!? Still them. Vanity is still a gg scoop, and its still even worse for them because Decatron is their only normal summonable, and it doesn't have the attack to help get rid of Vanitys. Granted, Nekroz die to it too, but they actually have meatier normal summons (like Denko) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maeriberii Haan Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 Still them. Vanity is still a gg scoop, and its still even worse for them because Decatron is their only normal summonable, and it doesn't have the attack to help get rid of Vanitys. Granted, Nekroz die to it too, but they actually have meatier normal summons (like Denko) uh... NS this mill astaroth/beelzebub pop/bounce vanity. Since you're already running triple MST at the very least, it's not that bad. unless you mean vanity's fiend, but denko doesn't help much against it so that'll make your sentence moot anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 Still them. Vanity is still a gg scoop, and its still even worse for them because Decatron is their only normal summonable, and it doesn't have the attack to help get rid of Vanitys. Yeah, if you completely ignore Decatron's effect... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLG Klavier Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 Also, a Vanity is "gg scoop" for...most deck nowadays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slinky Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 Yeah, if you completely ignore Decatron's effect... Yeah, I forgot it copied the effect of the sent monster. Sue me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maeriberii Haan Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 no one's going to call 1 with reasoning when this exists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Progenitor Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 So....looks like our good friend Reasoning is only gonna stay out hit free for a few formats before immediately going back on (if Konami has any sense of balance whatsoever and realizes: "Hmmmm maybe that's a bit too insane for the game") Unlikely as it is I can always have hope. Who am I kidding they are gonna wait til they top at worlds to touch ANYTHING in this deck with all the support they've been pulling out of their ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darj Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 Hell yes! I'm enjoying this. Infernoids had my attention since they were leaked because of their unusual FIRE/Fiend typing, mechanical appearance and of course their involvement in the DT storyline. However, I didn't feel like testing them because they had a bad start and was not a fan of the then more effective non-pure versions, but I surely kept an eye on them. And now they even got more support than deserved and look amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pchi Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 You know, between this and Tierra, Xyz Summoning a Rank 11 has never been so easy. What are you waiting for, Konami!? XD But seriously, we need a way to search for this little guy w/o SS it, in order to better counter Vanity and etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Progenitor Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 You know, between this and Tierra, Xyz Summoning a Rank 11 has never been so easy. What are you waiting for, Konami!? XD But seriously, we need a way to search for this little guy w/o SS it, in order to better counter Vanity and etc. You do. It's called Reasoning + Rising Void Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armoire Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 So what would be the prime combo for this card? From what I have read, the ideal play would be Reasoning -> Decatron -> ? Which Infernoid would you dump? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 Depends on what they have. Any of the low level ones to eat resources or Vael/Adramelech if you want to summon beaters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maeriberii Haan Posted February 18, 2015 Report Share Posted February 18, 2015 So what would be the prime combo for this card? From what I have read, the ideal play would be Reasoning -> Decatron -> ? Which Infernoid would you dump? Well, not exactly. Unless your opponent's living on a rock, they'll never call 1 with this card existing. So it's more like reasoning->decatron -> rising void -> this dumping the one that you need during the situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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