Zauls Posted May 7, 2015 Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 Honestly, this card is really underrated. It actually gives the deck so much more utility. Obviously for starters there's Lilith, who is coming to the TCG soon. Other from that, though, the fact its a 3rd Fusion to activate in 1 turn can make OTKing a lot easier. Also it allows you to go into Construct using 2 Shaddolls so you can resolve three effects, which can lead to absolutely bonkers plays. I honestly think that the standard Fusion Spell lineup could become 3 El, 2 Vanilla and 1 Nephe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mugendramon Posted May 7, 2015 Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 itt: mst negates fusion spells Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted May 7, 2015 Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 Winda: But I [i]LIKE[/i] being a DARK.... Qliphs: YOU WILL BE AN EARTH AND [i]LIKE IT!![/i] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirReal Posted May 7, 2015 Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 what Mugendramon said. this thing can be mst negated. Turn 1 it's nice for multi effect Construct plays, but after that, it's fragile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted May 7, 2015 Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 itt: mst negates fusion spellswhat Mugendramon said. this thing can be mst negated. Turn 1 it's nice for multi effect Construct plays, but after that, it's fragile.I mean, sure, MST hits it.But if it makes Anoyatyllis/Anomalilith summon happen against Nekroz, is that not worth it?How about Shekhinaga/Grystal (if you can spend the space) in certain matchups?If this recyclable fusion spell eats an MST instead of Vanity's, Mistake, Call of the Haunted, etc.... is that not worth it?If anything, it is at its weakest T1, as you're unlikely to be able to both use it AND set Beast over your Fusion, which may or may not be worth itcan be very important.Sure, MST 'negates' it... But it comes back to you, it has the effect of Core built in, and it can win matchups, so I don't see why to use MST to write it off. You have other cards worth MSTing, so MSTing this one may mean another more valuable threat got to live because the opp didn't realize it was tehre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mugendramon Posted May 7, 2015 Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 I mean, sure, MST hits it. But if it makes Anoyatyllis/Anomalilith summon happen against Nekroz, is that not worth it? How about Shekhinaga/Grystal (if you can spend the space) in certain matchups? If this recyclable fusion spell eats an MST instead of Vanity's, Mistake, Call of the Haunted, etc.... is that not worth it? If anything, it is at its weakest T1, as you're unlikely to be able to both use it AND set Beast over your Fusion, which may or may not be worth itcan be very important. Sure, MST 'negates' it... But it comes back to you, it has the effect of Core built in, and it can win matchups, so I don't see why to use MST to write it off. You have other cards worth MSTing, so MSTing this one may mean another more valuable threat got to live because the opp didn't realize it was tehre. oh no no no I'm not questioning this thing is worth running because smashing nekroz is extremely good and the construct plays are $$$ I was just saying because it's kinda funny that the statement applies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
玄魔の王 Posted May 7, 2015 Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 Winda: But I LIKE being a DARK.... Qliphs: YOU WILL BE AN EARTH AND LIKE IT!! Which reminds me... what happened to Winda and the Qliphoths in the end? This is the last time they're seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaoticjexak Posted May 7, 2015 Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 i really like the look at this- you can fuse- then fuse- then fuse…. funny as hell :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not-so-Radiant Arin Posted May 7, 2015 Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 I like how this thing is in essence Shaddoll Super Poly. I know it only targets Shaddolls but it would be a hilarious card in the mirror match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maeriberii Haan Posted May 7, 2015 Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 I like how this thing is in essence Shaddoll Super Poly. I know it only targets Shaddolls but it would be a hilarious card in the mirror match. You can only use the fusion effect on your own monsters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UltimateIRS Posted May 7, 2015 Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 I like how this thing is in essence Shaddoll Super Poly. I know it only targets Shaddolls but it would be a hilarious card in the mirror match. Actually, you need to control the monster to fuse with it. If it's on the opponent's field, it doesn't meet the condition of being "from your hand or your side of the field". EDIT: Ninja'd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihop Posted May 7, 2015 Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 I'm still unconvinced by this thing. Having to normal summon is really bad in some cases because it means you can't Tribute set Beast which is important and it means you can't make a Seraph play or summon Math/Denko that turn (less important than Beast, but still relevant). It doesn't summon Lilith particularly efficiently because really you want to be making it with El-Fusion in response to a ritual spell so that even if they have an out you've still burnt one of their spells. I'd rather run a second Core over this if making Lilith is the priority because Core's not too too awful in hand and especially with Lilith you can make it out of nowhere. The only thing I'm really impressed by is the ability to use 3 fusions in a turn, but that doesn't do enough for me to warrant running a card that seems so restrictive and mediocre in many matchups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not-so-Radiant Arin Posted May 7, 2015 Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 You can only use the fusion effect on your own monsters. including the Equipped monster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted May 7, 2015 Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 You can only use the fusion effect on your own monsters. including the Equipped monster"using monsters from your hand or side of the field, including the Equipped monster"Context is important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not-so-Radiant Arin Posted May 7, 2015 Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 Oh, so it doesn't actually act as a Super Poly? Then it wasn't as great as I thought... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihop Posted May 7, 2015 Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 As if the ability to fuse with your opponent's Shaddolls (they almost never leave any face-up) was the deciding factor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zauls Posted May 7, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 I'm still unconvinced by this thing. Having to normal summon is really bad in some cases because it means you can't Tribute set Beast which is important and it means you can't make a Seraph play or summon Math/Denko that turn (less important than Beast, but still relevant). It doesn't summon Lilith particularly efficiently because really you want to be making it with El-Fusion in response to a ritual spell so that even if they have an out you've still burnt one of their spells. I'd rather run a second Core over this if making Lilith is the priority because Core's not too too awful in hand and especially with Lilith you can make it out of nowhere. The only thing I'm really impressed by is the ability to use 3 fusions in a turn, but that doesn't do enough for me to warrant running a card that seems so restrictive and mediocre in many matchups. But Core doesn't allow you to make a first turn Lilith. That's quite important, because Lilith is best early game. Sure, it can make surprise Liliths with El Fusion, but all that really does is put a Ritual Spell or Fusion Spell in their Grave that wouldn't have been useful in their hand anyway. Also, maining 2 Core as opposed to 1 Core 1 Nephe means you can't make Lilith as easily full stop. Plus, you're also forgetting the resolving 3 Shaddolls thing, which is pretty insane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihop Posted May 7, 2015 Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 But Core doesn't allow you to make a first turn Lilith. That's quite important, because Lilith is best early game. Sure, it can make surprise Liliths with El Fusion, but all that really does is put a Ritual Spell or Fusion Spell in their Grave that wouldn't have been useful in their hand anyway. Also, maining 2 Core as opposed to 1 Core 1 Nephe means you can't make Lilith as easily full stop. Plus, you're also forgetting the resolving 3 Shaddolls thing, which is pretty insane. You don't need to make a first turn Lilith. You're much better off making it in your opponent's first turn which, while slightly less unlikely, isn't especially difficult either. You're definitely not just putting a useless spell in grave either, if you make it fizzle they probably wanted to use it and if you manage to block Kaleidoscope they won't be able to get an arclight search that turn so even if they do have the out you've stopped them making as many plays as they'll only have 3 useful cards in hand factoring in Kaleidoscope, the out and Unicore. I understand the argument to getting 3 effects in a turn but you're almost able to do that with Core because you can add back a fusion and don't need to do that with Construct, meaning you can add back Core with Construct which acts as a slightly worse Hedgehog. It's more explosive first turn but since it takes your normal summon it forces you to end on Construct which you basically never want to do since vs Nekroz and Dolls you want to end on set Beast whereas vs BA and Tellars you want to end on Winda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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