Zauls Posted June 30, 2015 Report Share Posted June 30, 2015 I don't understand why this isn't sided in multiples in Shaddolls. Its pretty much the best card against Tellars because it stops a Deneb or Altair play AND it's an out to Diamond. If you have one in Grave, your opponent literally can't even make Diamond because you can just banish this during your turn to negate it then Shaddoll Fusion from deck. It also stops End Phase Call/Oasis plays, unlike Veiler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SANDAA BORUTO Posted June 30, 2015 Report Share Posted June 30, 2015 Inb4 all the Breakthrough Skill vs Effect Veiler BS. I hate this card. Always screws up your plays when you least expect it to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLG Klavier Posted June 30, 2015 Report Share Posted June 30, 2015 I don't understand why this isn't sided in multiples in Shaddolls.Because it should be mained. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihop Posted June 30, 2015 Report Share Posted June 30, 2015 It's mained in multiples. It gets round stuff like Diamond (lets you fusion from deck, even better), Unicore and tribute fiends as well as obviously being a way to stop Trish. I'd say it's even better in Tellars because Nekroz so frequently leave Unicore out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zauls Posted June 30, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2015 Hmm, guess I must not be up to date. Sometimes I think the world is leaving me behind. Well, I guess discuss this. Also, talking about Effect Veiler is prohibited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slinky Posted June 30, 2015 Report Share Posted June 30, 2015 Did Fiendish Chain fall out of favor again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zauls Posted June 30, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2015 Did Fiendish Chain fall out of favor again? It really depends on the deck. In Qli or Tellar, I prefer Fiendish because of the recyclability, but Shaddoll prefers Breakthrough because of Diamond. They are both really good though. Maybe in general Fiendish may be falling out of favour because people are starting to play MST more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
玄魔の王 Posted June 30, 2015 Report Share Posted June 30, 2015 ...How are you using this on Diamond when Diamond is summoned off Ptolemaeus in response to Shaddoll Fusion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihop Posted June 30, 2015 Report Share Posted June 30, 2015 ...How are you using this on Diamond when Diamond is summoned off Ptolemaeus in response to Shaddoll Fusion?Breakthrough Ptolemaeus... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King K. Azo Posted June 30, 2015 Report Share Posted June 30, 2015 The only trap that work with Superheavys. At least that I know of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
玄魔の王 Posted June 30, 2015 Report Share Posted June 30, 2015 Breakthrough Ptolemaeus...True enough. Derp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Posted July 1, 2015 Report Share Posted July 1, 2015 The only trap that work with Superheavys. At least that I know of. For that you could technically also use Skill Prisoner, although the opponent can more easily walk around that one.They could use Skill Successor if it raised DEF, but anyways, anything that can banish itself from the Graveyard, or anything when under Dark Law/Macro, etc.I'm saying this without taking into account how Heavy Samurai monsters exactly work, so you figure out what to main there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted July 1, 2015 Report Share Posted July 1, 2015 The only trap that work with Superheavys. At least that I know of.Breakthrough SkillTarget 1 face-up Effect Monster your opponent controls; negate the effects of that opponent's face-up monster, until the end of this turn. During your turn, except the turn this card was sent to the Graveyard: You can banish this card from your Graveyard, then target 1 face-up Effect Monster your opponent controls; negate that target's effects until the end of this turn. Skill PrisonerTarget 1 card you control; this turn, when any monster effect resolves that targeted that card at activation, negate that effect. During either player's turn, except the turn this card was sent to the Graveyard: You can banish this card from your Graveyard, then target 1 card you control; this turn, when any monster effect resolves that targeted that card at activation, negate that effect. Mischief of the YokaiEach face-up monster on the field loses 2 Levels, until the End Phase. You can remove from play this card from your Graveyard to select 1 face-up monster and reduce its Level by 1, until the End Phase. This effect cannot be activated the same turn this card is sent to the Graveyard. Skill SuccessorTarget 1 face-up monster you control; it gains 400 ATK until the end of this turn. During your turn, except the turn this card was sent to the Graveyard: You can banish this card from the Graveyard, then target 1 face-up monster you control; that target gains 800 ATK until the end of this turn. Mischief of the GnomesThis turn, reduce the Levels of all monsters in each player’s hand by 1 (even after they are Summoned/Set). You can banish this card from the Graveyard; this turn, reduce the Levels of all monsters in each player’s hand by (1?) (even if they are Summoned/Set). The Phantom Knights of Shadow VeilTarget 1 face-up monster you control; it gains 300 ATK and DEF. When an opponent's monster declares a direct attack while this card is in your Graveyard: Special Summon this card in Defense Position as a Normal Monster (Warrior-Type/DARK/Level 4/ATK 0/DEF 300). (This card is NOT treated as a Trap Card.) If Summoned this way, banish this card when it leaves the field. Yokai is particularly hysterical, I'd give it a try. This card is significantly more meta though. Sometimes you can win games just by going first and setting this, really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinkerer Posted July 1, 2015 Report Share Posted July 1, 2015 There's also Galaxy Cyclone, Damage Diet, and (my personal favorite) Pot of Benevolence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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