Ryusei the Morning Star Posted July 9, 2015 Report Share Posted July 9, 2015 How the funk is ghost rabbit sheet? Limiting Unicore, Brio and Cycle works quite well actually. And you don't rob the deck of its main power card in the process Everything loses to Book of Eclipse. I guess the Djinn lock is fair cause it gets topped by BOE /sarcasm TCG is such a ban ban ban ban ban format >_> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihop Posted July 9, 2015 Report Share Posted July 9, 2015 How the funk is ghost rabbit sheet? funk it nvm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted July 9, 2015 Report Share Posted July 9, 2015 f*** it nvmWhat kind of cancer response is that.......... You neither answered the question nor rebutted it in any way. TCG's precious L1T, the floodgate that won't let you play loses to Rabbit Rabbit can crack Vanity if your opponent is not playing smart Rabbit can crack the djinn ......Why are you people so funking damn stubborn Nekroz has 4 problems named Unicore, Cycle, Brio and Shruit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLG Klavier Posted July 9, 2015 Report Share Posted July 9, 2015 What kind of cancer response is that.......... You neither answered the question nor rebutted it in any way. TCG's precious L1T, the floodgate that won't let you play loses to Rabbit Rabbit can crack Vanity if your opponent is not playing smart Rabbit can crack the djinn ......Why are you people so funking damn stubborn Nekroz has 4 problems named Unicore, Cycle, Brio and Shruit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonk Posted July 9, 2015 Report Share Posted July 9, 2015 Are you blind? Clearwing Stops trish, makes it so the attack is over armor range, stops claus. Stop being salty as funk. Hit Unicore cycle and brio >Implying every Extra Deck runs Clearwing. OP's list is terrible and TEW continues spouting off words thinking that he knows the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted July 9, 2015 Report Share Posted July 9, 2015 @Lonk No, I'm saying EVERY deck CAN run veiler and Clearwing. If they don't, that's their problem. There's no reason to rob Nekroz of their best card because you people are to damn salty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLG Klavier Posted July 9, 2015 Report Share Posted July 9, 2015 you people are to damn salty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinny Posted July 9, 2015 Report Share Posted July 9, 2015 What kind of cancer response is that.......... Nekroz has 4 problems named Unicore, Cycle, Brio and ShruitSo, instead of banning the four cards that practically make the deck what it is, we ban their main power play that is what is making those cards you listed even worse. We don't want to kill the deck, remember, the banlist isn't a good thing and we shouldn't just ban everything that's "unhealthy", or in the circumstance, the entire deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted July 9, 2015 Report Share Posted July 9, 2015 So, instead of banning the four cards that practically make the deck what it is, we ban their main power play that is what is making those cards you listed even worse. We don't want to kill the deck, remember, the banlist isn't a good thing and we shouldn't just ban everything that's "unhealthy", or in the circumstance, the entire deck.You don't need to ban anything Cycle turns the grave into a second hand Unicore invalidates the Extra deck Shruit makes costs meaningless Brio is a consistency thing Limit those four. Let the deck have some innovation. Maybe use the Deskbot engine, or the Diva engine..... @Klav thank you for proving your brain's mental retardation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLG Klavier Posted July 9, 2015 Report Share Posted July 9, 2015 @Klav thank you for proving your brain's mental retardation I'm going down to your level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted July 9, 2015 Report Share Posted July 9, 2015 I'm going down to your level.Not really, I'm atleast explaining why I say what I say, something you clearly don't have the mental ability to do so You've really given no idea as to why Trishula should be hit over those 4 cards I noted other than "less of deck hit" which means jack sheet. I could leave JD at 3 and hit 3 LS down to 1 and it would hurt less than vice versa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinny Posted July 9, 2015 Report Share Posted July 9, 2015 You don't need to ban anything Cycle turns the grave into a second hand Unicore invalidates the Extra deck Shruit makes costs meaningless Brio is a consistency thing Limit those four. Let the deck have some innovation. Maybe use the Deskbot engine, or the Diva engine..... @Klav thank you for proving your brain's mental retardation Orrr, we could just ban trish instead of making the entire deck less effective and consistent.Also, innovation really isn't a word I would put in the same sentence as nekroz, they seem very combo based using cards of their own archetype, but idk. Also, diva is at 1 I think in tcg so that wouldnt be that great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLG Klavier Posted July 9, 2015 Report Share Posted July 9, 2015 Not really, I'm atleast explaining why I say what I say, something you clearly don't have the mental ability to do soI liked the part where all I do is post pics of salt piles and you openly insult me. ^~^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted July 9, 2015 Report Share Posted July 9, 2015 Orrr, we could just ban trish instead of making the entire deck less effective and consistent.Or we could hit the decks consistency, leave their boss monster intact, and force them to have some creativity in their build Is creativity like not a important thing in TCG anymore? I liked the part where all I do is post pics of salt piles and you openly insult me. ^~^ I'm insulting you because you add nothing to the discussion but, pardon the pun, salt to the wound Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLG Klavier Posted July 9, 2015 Report Share Posted July 9, 2015 I'm insulting you because you add nothing to the discussion but, pardon the pun, salt to the woundBecause honestly you won't listen to a damn thing I say anyways, so might as well annoy you a little so it's all a bit more fun to watch. But generally I love how you want to hit every single thing that synergizes/makes Trish broken instead of just Trish. Cycle isn't nearly as dangerous without Trish, neither is Shritt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slinky Posted July 9, 2015 Report Share Posted July 9, 2015 You don't need to ban anything Cycle turns the grave into a second hand Unicore invalidates the Extra deck Shruit makes costs meaningless Brio is a consistency thing Limit those four. Let the deck have some innovation. Maybe use the Deskbot engine, or the Diva engine..... @Klav thank you for proving your brain's mental retardation The entire point of the list, is to make the deck /playable/ without flooding the list. Banning Trish opens the game state, and Valkyrus is already a good boss, /and/ its stronger. Hitting those 4 cards achieves the same purpose as banning Trish. Guess which route is better? Banning Trish, because it doesn't overflood the list. You're trying to hit 4 cards to save 1. That's just dumb, and just shows how biased you really are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted July 9, 2015 Report Share Posted July 9, 2015 No really. Unicore locks out a major aspect of the game Hitting Cycle to 1 means no more Claus bullshit with Djinn and would force you to run multiple Trish to get it off often Brio is the needed consistency hit, Shruit will cause problems with Gungnir and Claus Turbo which will become real decks once TCG hits nekroz a bit I honestly don't care about the fake Trishula, ban it as well. Those 4 need to go regardless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinny Posted July 9, 2015 Report Share Posted July 9, 2015 Or we could hit the decks consistency, leave their boss monster intact, and force them to have some creativity in their build Is creativity like not a important thing in TCG anymore?The entire deck is in the toilet by this point though. No shrit? Lol have fun making many rituals with their odd conditions. 1 brio? Consistency plummets to the point were it is like every other ritual deck that isn't gishki, can't combo and can't win easily. 1 Unicore? By this point this is just the final kick in the teeth to consistency. 1 Cycle? The last card that could POSSIBLY enable some sort of power play and re use the cards you limited, is also limited now too. I get what you mean but you've hit far too much and its easier just to have 1 card banned so they don't dominate the opponent AS much.Also, I don't really know nekroz too well, so if I did say so anything that isnt 100℅ accurate, don't sue me pls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted July 9, 2015 Report Share Posted July 9, 2015 The entire deck is in the toilet by this point though. No shrit? Lol have fun making many rituals with their odd conditions. 1 brio? Consistency plummets to the point were it is like every other ritual deck that isn't gishki, can't combo and can't win easily. 1 Unicore? By this point this is just the final kick in the teeth to consistency. 1 Cycle? The last card that could POSSIBLY enable some sort of power play and re use the cards you limited, is also limited now too. I get what you mean but you've hit far too much and its easier just to have 1 card banned so they don't dominate the opponent AS much.Also, I don't really know nekroz too well, so if I did say so anything that isnt 100℅ accurate, don't sue me pls.Well Shruit is a debatable choice. I'm going off what OCG wants to do, which is basically a camp between limiting Scope, Limiting Claus, and Limiting Shruit. The latter would put the deck down. And is the one I subscribe to. Brio limited doesn't do much actully. You can run Deskbots to properly summon Herald and the Nyarla loop becomes viable again 1 Unicore means extra decks can work again, also it would weaken first turn laval chain saving both the Djinn and Chain from banning Cycle is the best mirror and suffers from ruler sickness of using the grave as a resource. It's not healthy for the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slinky Posted July 9, 2015 Report Share Posted July 9, 2015 Here's the thing. With Shrit @1, the means of even /making/ half of the rituals is gone, because you also limited Brio and Unicor, which are the MAIN LEVELS of even making the higher level Nekroz. Trish would be unrealsitic to summon, and ain't nobody going to run Catasstor just to summon it. Gungnir isn't run too often, but it'd be needed alongside Claus to make Armor, because you limited Brio and Unicor, which are popular ways to summon it, because their levels add up to 10. Valkyrus can no longer be summoned either, because you'd have to sacrifice 2 jus, and Mirror can only banish Nekroz cards in the grave, and neither of the jus are nekroz Your hits are unrealistic, and flat out kill the deck. Ban Trish, Unicor @1 Main gamestate threat is gone, decks can now play normally again. Unicor @1 allows people to actually dig into their ED for outs. And Unicor @1 won't kill them, because they still have access to plenty of level 4s to make their rituals with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted July 9, 2015 Report Share Posted July 9, 2015 Here's the thing. With Shrit @1, the means of even /making/ half of the rituals is gone, because you also limited Brio and Unicor, which are the MAIN LEVELS of even making the higher level Nekroz. Trish would be unrealsitic to summon, and ain't nobody going to run Catasstor just to summon it. Gungnir isn't run too often, but it'd be needed alongside Claus to make Armor, because you limited Brio and Unicor, which are popular ways to summon it, because their levels add up to 10. Valkyrus can no longer be summoned either, because you'd have to sacrifice 2 jus, and Mirror can only banish Nekroz cards in the grave, and neither of the jus are nekroz Your hits are unrealistic, and flat out kill the deck.Shruit is meant to kill the deck in OCG. It's to early for that TCG side maybe. I will give you guys that. Brio, Unicore, Cycle limited is how the OCG has it and Nekroz went from tier 1 to the 4th best deck. There is the added factor of how you can use compuls to bait out trishula OCG side, but you guys also don't have to deal with Pot of Avarice or HFD so it should even out'Something akin to this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinny Posted July 9, 2015 Report Share Posted July 9, 2015 Let's be honest, the point of nekroz was to hoyk in lots of money fast, and then kill it off. I wouldn't use OCG banlists as guidance for making a deck more fair tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted July 9, 2015 Report Share Posted July 9, 2015 Let's be honest, the point of nekroz was to hoyk in lots of money fast, and then kill it off. I wouldn't use OCG banlists as guidance for making a deck more fair tbh.One list reduced a tier 0 deck in October to a pretty fair tier 1.5 deck. That other semi limited brio and went back to collecting $ OCG has been retarded in their ways of dealing with certain decks, but Nekroz is one that they've done a very good job at keeping down Results speak Nobody has time to summon Trishula if you want to protect claus from Compuls or such (hence the running of 2). With Cycle limited, what is dead, stays dead. The Djinn lock is rarely if ever run due to Laval being terrible to summon (burning Unicore) Brio being limited slows the deck down to where others can compete with it. There is a fine difference between wanting to be different than the ocg and being dumb with pride Those 3 hits will make it so neither Djinn, Chain, nor Trish need banning, and will also keep the deck as a very fair tier 1.5 deck Not sure what more I can say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slinky Posted July 9, 2015 Report Share Posted July 9, 2015 Nobody here cares about how the OCG does things. It doesn't affect us, and the OCG is also notorious for hitting the wrong cards.However, none of this even matters, as you aren't a TCG player, yet you come here acting as if you know everything about it, when in reality, you know nothing. I've told you this before, and I'll say it again. Placing OCG logic into our TCG, DOES NOT WORK. You aren't even bothering to learn our format, and are just hellbent on shoving your OCG down our throats, and then act all anal when we call you out on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinny Posted July 9, 2015 Report Share Posted July 9, 2015 Nobody here cares about how the OCG does things. It doesn't affect us, and the OCG is also notorious for hitting the wrong cards.However, none of this even matters, as you aren't a TCG player, yet you come here acting as if you know everything about it, when in reality, you know nothing. I've told you this before, and I'll say it again. Placing OCG logic into our TCG, DOES NOT WORK. You aren't even bothering to learn our format, and are just hellbent on shoving your OCG down our throats, and then act all anal when we call you out on it.I hate to rain on your parade but he was relatively tame this thread and I enjoyed learning and discussing nekroz hits, so that's a bit rude :p EDIT: Its true though, OCG logic ain't that good in tcg in general, and OCG are known for having a crazy banlist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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