Partangle the Candle Jangler Posted August 31, 2015 Report Share Posted August 31, 2015 Image may end up huge, hopefully not. Anyway.This is such an amazing card in so many ways, especially in Raidraptors when you can make it at basically any moment. Negating Fiendish Chains to free up things for the turn, negating your opponent's monsters for 2 turns, locking out any other continuous effects they may have up to mess with your stuff. And the ATK boost on top of that which is really significant and means this can kill basically anything. Even if your opponent has nothing significant up, simply using the effect to boost it up can allow for OTKs where they weren't previously possible.To me it's the best rank 4 in how much it can do and what it can enable, as well as Raidraptors being my favourite archetype and this being so splashable with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mido9 Posted August 31, 2015 Report Share Posted August 31, 2015 For the longest time I had thought this card was the rank 5 2-winged-beast ice xyz with the horrible, horrible effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(GigaDrillBreaker) Posted August 31, 2015 Report Share Posted August 31, 2015 This is pretty nuts in Blackwing as well, simply because it is easy for its ATK to pass 4000. Helps in a lot of the deck's OTKs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Faytl~ Posted August 31, 2015 Report Share Posted August 31, 2015 Very good card I enjoy a lot. The fact it acts as a Towers out is just fantastic, and it can help ensure your OTKs. Not to mention the best decks that can make it can generate a lot of cards on the board, making this HUGE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted August 31, 2015 Report Share Posted August 31, 2015 It's a good card in bad decks. Raidraptors showing in the OCG before the influx of M&M means nothing. They showed in very minor amounts, and the OCG is notorious for playing decks they like instead of playing good decks. Hell, at one point, when Dragon Rulers were T0, they all stopped playing Rulers and instead played HEROs. Before the new HERO support. Blackwings are probably better than RR, as their deck isn't based in having to run bad support cards to make the deck durdle and/or be poor at anything but amassing advantage to get Exciton'd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
玄魔の王 Posted August 31, 2015 Report Share Posted August 31, 2015 This has won me games in Harpies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmo. Posted August 31, 2015 Report Share Posted August 31, 2015 I love Harpies and this card is great in them, so useful, it can deal with so many threats. Too bad that there are only 3 winged beast decks that can use this efficiently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EndUser Posted August 31, 2015 Report Share Posted August 31, 2015 No targetting, no removal, few triggers. Just a semi-Cold Wave for the opponent, an ATK boost included in all this. No doubt almost everyone likes this card. Would be extremely hilarious if it was not limited to Winged Beast Materials! :D Qliphorts are safe from this. Yosenjus as well (Well, they raise their middle finger to many cards anyway! :P ). Graydles and Burning Abyss are also safe (since they don't really care being on the field, especially the latter one). Fairy Decks running Herald of Perfection/Ultimaness and Trains can counter the card easily (if they are a thing nowadys). Oh, Artifacts of course! I can't recall of other Decks, but most of them are pretty much vulnerable from Zerofyne. Staples and some strong negators are its worst enemies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Partangle the Candle Jangler Posted August 31, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2015 It's a good card in bad decks. Raidraptors showing in the OCG before the influx of M&M means nothing. They showed in very minor amounts, and the OCG is notorious for playing decks they like instead of playing good decks. Hell, at one point, when Dragon Rulers were T0, they all stopped playing Rulers and instead played HEROs. Before the new HERO support. Blackwings are probably better than RR, as their deck isn't based in having to run bad support cards to make the deck durdle and/or be poor at anything but amassing advantage to get Exciton'd.I know nothing of the OCG and don't really care, as I've only used Raidraptors on DNCG but I completely disagree with the idea they're a bad deck. What are the bad support cards the deck is reliant on? The free searcher? The free spell speed 3 backrow negation? There are some shite cards yes, but the deck is far from reliant on them. Swallow's Nest essentially gives you 6 Vanishings, Strix searches the whole deck on top of Mimicry and possibly Fuzzy being enabled by it. In my experience, you can amass enough advantage that you can have 5 or 6 cards in hand with a decent field and so even getting Exciton'd or Black Rose'd is not the end by any means. You can OTK with relative ease if you can get a half decent set-up and even without it. They may not be tier 1 or anything but they are more than competitive and far from bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted August 31, 2015 Report Share Posted August 31, 2015 I know nothing of the OCG and don't really care, as I've only used Raidraptors on DNCG but I completely disagree with the idea they're a bad deck. What are the bad support cards the deck is reliant on? The free searcher? The free spell speed 3 backrow negation? There are some shite cards yes, but the deck is far from reliant on them. Swallow's Nest essentially gives you 6 Vanishings, Strix searches the whole deck on top of Mimicry and possibly Fuzzy being enabled by it. In my experience, you can amass enough advantage that you can have 5 or 6 cards in hand with a decent field and so even getting Exciton'd or Black Rose'd is not the end by any means. You can OTK with relative ease if you can get a half decent set-up and even without it. They may not be tier 1 or anything but they are more than competitive and far from bad.They really aren't a competitive deck, at all. They're not able to compete with any of the top, say, 10-12 decks in DNCG, which encompasses Tiers 1 and 2. Let's see... In no particular order:Nekroz (and variants)Ritual BeastsShaddolls (and variants)InfernoidsQliPerformage and PalsMagician (and variants)MajespecterTellarknightsBurning AbyssKozmoYang ZingArguably IgknightHERO 13 14 right there for T1/2. Not to mention potential up-and-comers like Pure Performapal, with the advent of Monkeyboard, just not on DN for a bit. The deck does nothing but search. You need Fuzzy and/or Nest for your T1 plays to be lucrative, and this simply means you search a bunch of cards while letting your opp know exactly what you're setting up, giving them time to plan around it. The searching is good, but you have to funk around for the searching to be genuinely valuable, and it's a real drawback. Most of the support is bad, especially the RUMs (You can tech Revolution Force at 0-1, and Raid Force is okay, but they're both dead draws that aren't especially worth reaching Blaze Falcon. Admittedly, blaze is pretty good). Nest is obviously good, but Readiness is the only other decent one at 0-1. And only because of Tribute. This leads to more problems with the deck. Tribute is really dead if your opponent manages to keep the game going. This deck can't function like that, because each search isn't as powerful as any other deck's search. You don't have power cards to search, you have tribute, vanishing, and impale. These are decent cards, especially vanishing, but Tribute can't be maxed without fear of dead draws... noir can he be run at 2, or you have less good opening hands. Swallow's Nest is a fine extra support card, but it's still just extra copies of vanishing you should be searching after T1 anyways, giving you yet another conundrum. Except, you definitely should not be maxing Swallow's. Strix is good, but he's super passive, and he just gets run over easily. You have to have a full board for him to be even a remotely decent beater, and this puts you in outplay range. Rise Falcon sucks ass, and the lack of a good offensive RR makes Fuzzy worse, unless you run the dead draw RUMs. But you have to run 3 Fuzzy, all the same. Then there's the fragility of the deck. Unless you open godly, the deck loses to a single Fiendish, BTS, Veiler, Torrential, Compulse, etc. If Vanishing fails to resolve even once, almost any other deck will kill you, even other more casual decks. If you get nuked and then they follow it up with backrow or a veiler, you're just funked. And given how much you have to devote T1 to even stay in the game, you set yourself up for Nekroz, Exciton, Shaddolls, and more to totally wreck you. Hell, most decks can punish T1 overextension, and RR are notorious for having to do that. So, the deck loses to backrow, the deck loses to removal, the deck loses to Pendulum decks that outsearch and outspeed it. It's not a good deck. There's definite potential there, but the cards it currently has do not allow it to be a good deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihop Posted August 31, 2015 Report Share Posted August 31, 2015 I really don't wish to derail this topic but Igknights are a viable deck with major tournament success and have some relatively decent support coming into the future. You're understating their viability, they're much more of a meta deck than Yang Zing (oh, and HEROes should be there as well, it's not just Matt Mills who has success with those). Good in bad decks pretty much covers it, but damn is it good in those bad decks. As a Blackwing aficionado it's pretty much the best thing the deck can do and can win games all by itself, especially in certain matchups and even more so now pendulums exist (not only does it out Towers, it freezes their Scout and Monolith). Cool card, will be very relevant eventually if there's a relevant rank 4 Winged-Beast deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackBeartic Posted August 31, 2015 Report Share Posted August 31, 2015 If you have half a brain you could make raid raptors at least hold their own against higher tier decks. Everyone calls them one of the worst decks when i can literally name about 5-8 decks worst than them. Now I'm not saying they are meta by any means nor are they particularly great or even good.I'm just saying people underestimate them more often than I'd like to see. (this might be bias but whatever) As for the topic at hand Zerofyne is amazing in winged beast decks and stuff and it makes NK (one of the decks worse than RRs) cry immensely especially if they have 5 equips out. I don't think i've had this card really fail me as even if there isn't anything to negate I can always boost her attack to push for game or as said above OTK. Now a meta WB deck would make this card REALLY REALLY scary honestly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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