TX James Posted September 7, 2015 Report Share Posted September 7, 2015 Lore:1 Dragon Xyz Monster + 1 Dragon Synchro Monster + 1 Dragon Fusion MonsterThis card can only be Fusion Summoned with the above Fusion Material. Must be Fusion Summoned by returning the above cards you control into the Extra Deck. (You do not use "Polymerization".) As long as you have cards in your Extra Deck, this card cannot be destroyed by battle or card effects. Once per turn, during either players turn, when a card or effect is activated; you can send 1 card from your Extra Deck to the Graveyard, negate the effect of the card and destroy it. You can only control 1 'Hellfire Dragon'. If this card destroys a monster by battle, you can send 1 card from your Extra Deck to the Graveyard; draw 1 card. Would like some feedback on this card :) thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astolfo Posted September 8, 2015 Report Share Posted September 8, 2015 So.Sorta like an impossibly hard to summon CyDra with a basic protection eff.Non-destruction? Just bait out the OPT negation and then Castel or w/e. But anyways, it's ridiculously hard to summon outside of like... Pendulums? (Dracoslayer Xyz/Ignister/Odd-Eyes fusions)? And not really worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Highlander Posted September 8, 2015 Report Share Posted September 8, 2015 Well at least miracle synchro fusion goes for it, but it is extremely powerful in decks which usually play all of these types ... or nekroz due to kaleidomirror, they do not care about dropping your extra deck anyways ... except for the fact that you remove targets for kaleido and trigger herald, so both drop effects are basiclly granting an additional plus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astolfo Posted September 8, 2015 Report Share Posted September 8, 2015 Except you probably can't drop this with Kaleido too easily, because 11 is a weird level for it.Also, it's just a harder to summon CyDra Inf essentially, and if you just drop this from ED with Kaleido, you can't Summon it from grave anyways, since it wasn't ever properly summoned. On second thought, given the fact that a person running a deck that could use this would use a 15 card ED, the no card effect destruction is a bit much imo, because it stops anything like Raigeki/Dark Hole/other destruction effs to remove it, as well as the fact it's a CyDra, meaning literally the only threat to it is something that can run over 3000 solid attack or non-destruction removal it. And then we have the CyDra eff that negates it. But no, not really worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Highlander Posted September 9, 2015 Report Share Posted September 9, 2015 Except you probably can't drop this with Kaleido too easily, because 11 is a weird level for it.Also, it's just a harder to summon CyDra Inf essentially, and if you just drop this from ED with Kaleido, you can't Summon it from grave anyways, since it wasn't ever properly summoned. On second thought, given the fact that a person running a deck that could use this would use a 15 card ED, the no card effect destruction is a bit much imo, because it stops anything like Raigeki/Dark Hole/other destruction effs to remove it, as well as the fact it's a CyDra, meaning literally the only threat to it is something that can run over 3000 solid attack or non-destruction removal it. And then we have the CyDra eff that negates it. But no, not really worth it.I was refering to the summon materials for miracle fusion, though that would take a ton of setup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Flyer - Sakura Posted September 9, 2015 Report Share Posted September 9, 2015 There's also Cyber-Stein if you want to bypass the summoning requirements, which, yeah it's not realistically possible nowadays. That is, if you're willing to sacrifice 5000 LP to do it, although it's instant (as opposed to having Summoner be flipped + tributing a monster, but at least it doesn't cost you more than half your LP). (Oh wait, Stein's also banned in TCG; OCG doesn't care though because that's @3 over there.) With that in mind, provided you have another card in the Extra Deck, this card won't blow up via Summoner's effect or by most common removal.Oh wait, you can still use Castel to bounce it off the field or anything else that doesn't destroy stuff for removal. Or just negate its summoning. Last effect mills stuff to the Graveyard for free draws; suppose you can use it to set up some Fusion play or something, but that's kinda iffy. ----Given the wording, it is technically a Semi-Nomi monster, so nothing is stopping you from using the alternate methods of getting this out.I guess you could use DNA Surgery to change the required monsters into Dragons, then Fusion Summon this, but that takes a bit too much effort. Like UE mentioned, Summoner of Illusion is pretty much the only way you'll summon this reasonably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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