Even Vanilla Fusions can be good, y'know? [Toyo Single]

[宇佐見 蓮子@C94]

 

A Vanilla Fusion with no effects, but fittingly, a big-arse body that should be more than enough to deal with anything that isnt UTL or Construct. Or a defense position Dora. Well, even attack position Dora would be a problem if they have Derricrane. No Normal Summon clause means you cant do funny things like drop Black Rose at 3500 or lower LP and cheese your way to victory. Nono, like a true Messiah he comes at the time of need to bring salvation to those at his side.

[goodfusion]

Maybe it could have a clause saying "This card is treated as a non-Effect Monster while face-up on the field"? So Fiendish Chain wouldn't stop it, also you could use it with White Elephant's Gift if you really, really had to.

[宇佐見 蓮子@C94]

Maybe it could have a clause saying "This card is treated as a non-Effect Monster while face-up on the field"? So Fiendish Chain wouldn't stop it, also you could use it with White Elephant's Gift if you really, really had to.

That wouldn't really serve a point :o

 

White Elephant's is quite subpar in a deck focusing on summoning ED monsters, as it doesnt work with Vanilla Pendulums. Plus, building a deck around the card itself instead of teching it at 1 in more established power decks such as Clowns or Shaddolls would be less reliable.

[ÆƵ–]

That wouldn't really serve a point :o

 

White Elephant's is quite subpar in a deck focusing on summoning ED monsters, as it doesnt work with Vanilla Pendulums. Plus, building a deck around the card itself instead of teching it at 1 in more established power decks such as Clowns or Shaddolls would be less reliable.

Why wouldn't gift work with v pends? If it's that fact that they would get sent to the grave instead of ED, oh well?

 

OT: I think a non-effect clause would be cool. Like Tyretian said, it stops it from getting chain'd, and it also stops it form getting L1T'd. 

[FF Fan]

Well it's summoning conditions make it a non vanilla plus the Normal Summon restriction at the end. This is basically a Fusion beatstick. I think it serves well for its purpose. It's not too easy to get out and it prevents an extra summon. I think graveyard is supposed to be capitalized as well.

 

Overall I say it deserves a 8.5/10.

[goodfusion]

Why wouldn't gift work with v pends? If it's that fact that they would get sent to the grave instead of ED, oh well?

 

OT: I think a non-effect clause would be cool. Like Tyretian said, it stops it from getting chain'd, and it also stops it form getting L1T'd. 

 

White Elephant's Gift doesn't work with Pendulum Monsters because they cannot be sent from the field to the Graveyard, and Gift sends to the Graveyard as a cost.

[Darj]

I'm concerned by this card being basically a free +1 as soon as the conditions are met, regardless of ATK and effect (well, lack thereof in this case), despite the Normal Summon lock as drawback. I can imagine Shaddolls using this for getting back into the game in a pinch, follow it up with Fusion Summons to seal/steal games, or at the very least using this as Fusion fodder. Nekroz should have a relatively easy time using this as well, since they Rank4 with Unicore + 'Jus and they can, let's say, clear their field of monsters through Valkyrus, drop this, then follow up with Ritual Summons.

 

A couple ideas that come to my mind to fix it are to make it discard/tribute an specific card, perhaps it could be good old Poly to turn it into an pseudo-Miracle Fusion, or maybe Tribute a non-Effect/Normal/ED monster in addition to banishing the 2 ED monsters and controlling no other monsters, I don't know.

Or at the very least lock Special Summons for the turn so the player can't follow up with Fusion or Ritual Summons, Call of Haunted/reborn effects, etc.

[宇佐見 蓮子@C94]

Yeah, the +1 summoning is the biggest part. I thought about putting a SS restriction, but I'm not sure really. It'd be a bit too restrictive to be effectively used in the meta :O

[Zftn Onen]

I think it's overpowered in any type of deck that can bring out extra deck monsters quickly . That means this beatstick can be used easily in a OTK combo with other special summons when it comes out. If you made it to where you can't special summon any other card during the turn its summoned it would make it more balanced. But other than that it is a good addition for attack option in those decks that can get out extra deck monsters easier.