(GigaDrillBreaker) Posted October 27, 2015 Report Share Posted October 27, 2015 One of the less common, but still viable rank 4 options.Discuss it's current applications. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astolfo Posted October 28, 2015 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 I guess it could pop Dante, but floating might make it not worth it.Qlis from scale buffs.Nekroz from Decisive Armor? (Or would it not work b/c Damage Step w/e?)Monarchs if attacking w/ Dominion and you somehow have this out before they got up Dominion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(GigaDrillBreaker) Posted October 28, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 I guess it could pop Dante, but floating might make it not worth it.Qlis from scale buffs. Mostly these, plus it can tear apart dweller fields against... Literally anything with Norden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darj Posted October 28, 2015 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 I remember when this was quite potent in Fire Fist-dominant formats, because of the Formations, heh.Anyway, this card is more of a meta call, but that should be obvious. Nowadays, I'm not sure if its worth of being mained outside of Qlips (who scarcely Rank4 anyway), since the only relevant stat changers are the aforementioned Qlips, Dante, Norden~Dweller and... I don't know if I'm missing something else. Oh, and it can destroy CyDra Infinities too, for whatever that's worth since more often than not you will have to bait the negation effect first.I'm not aware of its effectiveness in or against M&Ms either, who sometimes drop ATK changes with Pendulum Wizard, Silver Claw and Mirror Conductor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted October 28, 2015 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 Dweller + Ragna Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihop Posted October 28, 2015 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 Hitting buffed Qlis is probably the most relevant use of the card, which means it normally doesn't justify a spot in the extra unless you have endless space/a real weakness to Qli. Yes, it's good against Dante as well but only if you can make 2 rank 4s because the first one really ought to always be Dweller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiji Posted October 28, 2015 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 I thought this was released in PRIO which by that time Wolfbark was limited and +1 Fire Fist stopped mattering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihop Posted October 28, 2015 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 I thought this was released in PRIO which by that time Wolfbark was limited and +1 Fire Fist stopped mattering. My mind is foggy but as I recall +1 Fire Fist wasn't originally a thing after Wolfbark came out, it was just regular 4-axis, and only after Wolfbark was limited and then put back to 3 did +1 Fire Fist with Cardcars and Myrmeleos become a thing. In fact, as I recall this card was one of the things which then made +1 Fire unviable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiji Posted October 28, 2015 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 +1 Fire Fist the standard build didn't play Myrmeleo, it was just 3 card car 3 Bear 1 Gorilla 3 Wolfbark.Wolfbark was never limited then put back to 3 at the time, it came as an OCG import since we got it late as the deck was able to play it at 3 at the start. After the deck's popularity post LVAL, Wolfbark was limited and the deck fell off the radar, PRIO came and Ragna came too late. Wolfbark was unlimited just recently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neutrality Man Posted October 28, 2015 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 Aren't all NS'd Qli immune to this? ... If this card is Normal Summoned/Set, it is unaffected by activated effects from any monster whose original Level/Rank is lower than this card's current Level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihop Posted October 28, 2015 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 Aren't all NS'd Qli immune to this?They'd be level 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neutrality Man Posted October 28, 2015 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 Aren't all NS'd Qli immune to this?They'd be level 4 Not when Normal Summoned by Tributing. Ragna can only kill 1 thing per turn, and Qli are Pendulums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihop Posted October 28, 2015 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 Not when Normal Summoned by Tributing. Ragna can only kill 1 thing per turn, and Qli are Pendulums.Obv you summon it early game when they can't pendulum summon 3/4 and have something tribute summonable in hand too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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