Βyakuya Posted November 8, 2015 Report Share Posted November 8, 2015 Everyone should know what this card does. I think we might be at one point where this card could be randomly conscripted by Konami to test the effects of how the metagame would change. Most key meta like Shaddolls and Nekroz will no longer be existent in a dominant meta, where decks like BA, Infernoid, Yang Zing, Kozmo, and Majespecter can have some neat and fair bouts with this card. The only deck I believe that can make this card a threat would likely be in PePe, since this card practically makes their Xyz'd Mages a +1, and can also extend their plays by a huge stretch. This card also has conflicts by summoning other opponent's grave cards, which calls for some immediate and BS turnover situations at some times. But I think now, in order to give power to the lesser tier rogue builds, and probably make things like Mermails and Fire Fist have some leverage, Monster Reborn can come clutch in some balanced situations. Regardless, it's something to think about and place thought into since it could might as well be the next Sixth Sense or Snatch Steal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airride Posted November 8, 2015 Report Share Posted November 8, 2015 Regardless, it's something to think about and place thought into since it could might as well be the next Sixth Sense or Snatch Steal. Well...Sixth Sense was more Konami not banning the card in advance for some ungodly reason like they did with Temple of Kings when it first came out. Snatch Steal (Which Failed the test), Tsukuyomi, and GLow-Up (Which passed), and all that other stuff are more similar than that.And, I feel like this should...probably stay banned. We have CotH, that Wyrm One, and a lot of other Revival stuff, I think we should let this one stay. I'm not sure, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Βyakuya Posted November 8, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2015 Well...Sixth Sense was more Konami not banning the card in advance for some ungodly reason like they did with Temple of Kings when it first came out. Snatch Steal (Which Failed the test), Tsukuyomi, and GLow-Up (Which passed), and all that other stuff are more similar than that.And, I feel like this should...probably stay banned. We have CotH, that Wyrm One, and a lot of other Revival stuff, I think we should let this one stay. I'm not sure, though. The format has gone through worse, but I do feel this time it has potential to come off, that is, depending on what else is topping and what else is being changed on the list. There is nothing wrong with arguing whether it should stay or go, if you think about the new era. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darj Posted November 8, 2015 Report Share Posted November 8, 2015 I randomly thought that one would be able to revive an opponent's Kozmo spaceship with this, but then I remembered they banish themselves for their floating effects so I wouldn't be as effective. Anyway, personally I wouldn't mind getting this back at 1, just to see the impact it would have on the metagame and add a bit of chaos to the game, why not. I understand that this card would enable a wide array of plays, but still, I wonder what's the worst it could do in the current and upcoming formats. Revive a detached material in M&Ms, yes, but which one? or perhaps an Ignister from either player's graveyard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Βyakuya Posted November 9, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2015 I randomly thought that one would be able to revive an opponent's Kozmo spaceship with this, but then I remembered they banish themselves for their floating effects so I wouldn't be as effective. Anyway, personally I wouldn't mind getting this back at 1, just to see the impact it would have on the metagame and add a bit of chaos to the game, why not. I understand that this card would enable a wide array of plays, but still, I wonder what's the worst it could do in the current and upcoming formats. Revive a detached material in M&Ms, yes, but which one? or perhaps an Ignister from either player's graveyard?Now that you think about it, PePe has the potential of getting 2 Ignisters, which can net Felgrand, then Reborn revives an Ignister. In theory, I just thought brining back something like Sorcerer if it were to come, or any Mage to extend Rank 4 combos would be pretty wack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted November 9, 2015 Report Share Posted November 9, 2015 It never got banned in OCG, never caused problems either. It helps the lower tier decks who never got grave recovery cards, it's not needed in newer decks that already have archetypal ones. Would honestly like it to go to 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinny Posted November 9, 2015 Report Share Posted November 9, 2015 I guarantee you it will come back to 1 for a format cus Konami will be like "hurr durr pends don't hit grave so it will be useless" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted November 9, 2015 Report Share Posted November 9, 2015 Would love to see this card back...But at the same time, I'd then have to fit it into all my decks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted November 9, 2015 Report Share Posted November 9, 2015 Would love to see this card back...But at the same time, I'd then have to fit it into all my decks.people aren't even fitting SC in when its already legal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Progenitor Posted November 9, 2015 Report Share Posted November 9, 2015 Indeed it's kinda in that weird spot where it has the potential to be destructive but at the same time it most likely won't. It's just a weird thing were we don't want the format to get any more cancerous, yet this is something that could promote the non-cancer. I feel like this more than freaking Snatch Steal deserves the comeback test at the very least for a format, preferably before we get E&M at full power. The OCG is proof enough of this. It's pretty freaking strong...but at the same time stuff like Norden is and was much, much stronger so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiji Posted November 9, 2015 Report Share Posted November 9, 2015 Yeah PePe in OCG doesn't run Reborn at all.Being able to revive Sorceror without committing to a pendulum is cute, but it's literally just a conditional level 4 monster in most situations. Most of your 4s are vanillas with exception of Sorceror. Would rather play Norden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted November 9, 2015 Report Share Posted November 9, 2015 Yeah PePe in OCG doesn't run Reborn at all.Being able to revive Sorceror without committing to a pendulum is cute, but it's literally just a conditional level 4 monster in most situations. Most of your 4s are vanillas with exception of Sorceror. Would rather play Norden.There's no room anymore lol. The deck is so consistent they don't even need the extra glue. Hell people are cutting Foolish and siding Duster, there was a time where Reborn was run tho Noden=easier trish&beast, but even that didn't see play last format Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragulas Posted November 9, 2015 Report Share Posted November 9, 2015 I would like this card to be konami's random experiment of the format, pendulums (which cant use it properly) have in most cases a build in reborn in the archetype/series they belong. PePe doesnt even have a space for this, most of their builds already exceeds 40 cards (and they dont even care), but it doesnt do the job better than the cards already in the deck Right now the card can still be potentially abused, but if it happens it wont be that bad as snatch steal (probably) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiji Posted November 9, 2015 Report Share Posted November 9, 2015 There's no room anymore lol. The deck is so consistent they don't even need the extra glue. Hell people are cutting Foolish and siding Duster, there was a time where Reborn was run tho Noden=easier trish&beast, but even that didn't see play last formatIt has nothing to do with room, it's comparatively worse than any level 4 that can special summon itself from hand in scenarios outside of Sorceror (the same reasoning why math + libic is worse than 2 BAs, ignition phoenix + igknight is worse than 2 igknight effects). Though I get that OCG has gone past 40 in most lists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted November 9, 2015 Report Share Posted November 9, 2015 It has nothing to do with room, it's comparatively worse than any level 4 that can special summon itself from hand in scenarios outside of SorcerorIs that entirely true though? You can get beast back, you can get Ignister back, you can get the clown re-ignited (granted Nyarla can do that too) Used to be able to get Jigabyte back to ram and get Arch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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