Dragulas Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 WATER* * * * * * Dragon / Ritual / Effect You can Ritual Summon this card with any "Nekroz" Ritual Spell Card. Must be Ritual Summoned and cannot be Special Summoned by other ways. You can only use 1 of these effects of "Nekroz of Dewloren" per turn, and only once that turn.● You can discard this card, then send 1 "Nekroz" Ritual Spell Card from your Deck to the Graveyard; this effect becomes that card's effect that Ritual Summons a monster when the card is activated, also you cannot Special Summon other monsters for the rest of this turn.● If this card is Ritual Summoned: You can shuffle 3 cards into the Deck (any combination of "Nekroz" cards in your Graveyard, and/or your banished "Nekroz" cards), then draw 1 card. ATK / 2000 DEF / 1400 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Flyer - Sakura Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 We've already gotten a Level 6 Nekroz in Brionac (although Dewloren is part of the Duel Terminal war that Nekroz are themed after, so it fits flavor-wise). But otherwise, both of its effects are generally useful. First one is nice for "faking" the Ritual Spell requirement in the event you don't draw the spell right away (or don't have Clausolas to search for it). At times, I have bricked with Nekroz due to not having an appropriate Ritual to summon them, so this will be helpful in alleviating that problem to some extent. Yeah, it'll lock you off from summoning other things, but that should not be a problem for them. Its other effect is also nice for recovering stuff like the other Ritual Spells or things that get banished for Mirror or really, even recycling Brio and Clausolas, etc to search more stuff again (or summon again). Personally, I don't really see any outright flaws in its design. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azuriena Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 The discard effect is hardly needed because it's kind of just a worse Clausolas in most situations, and the rest of the card is an abomination in terms of flavour and in-theme consistency. 1. Dragon-Type.2. No Ritual Summoning restriction.3. Dragon Ruler hard OPT.4. A balancing restriction that lasts for the rest of the turn.5. An Summoned-triggered effect when Dewloren's is nothing like that.6. An on-field effect that doesn't involve Extra Deck monsters. The on-field effect is alright because it can recycle your limited Unicore and Brionac, but Dewloren's Level and ATK are so terrible that you're better off recycling them in other ways. It's hard to Ritual Summon (admittedly a bit easier than Brio, although this card's existence makes Brio easier to Summon as well) and it can't do anything for you as a monster on the field. It is your only way of recycling your banished Ritual Spells, but that is hardly notable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragulas Posted June 8, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 The discard effect is hardly needed because it's kind of just a worse Clausolas in most situations, and the rest of the card is an abomination in terms of flavour and in-theme consistency. 1. Dragon-Type.2. No Ritual Summoning restriction.3. Dragon Ruler hard OPT.4. A balancing restriction that lasts for the rest of the turn.5. An Summoned-triggered effect when Dewloren's is nothing like that.6. An on-field effect that doesn't involve Extra Deck monsters. The on-field effect is alright because it can recycle your limited Unicore and Brionac, but Dewloren's Level and ATK are so terrible that you're better off recycling them in other ways. It's hard to Ritual Summon (admittedly a bit easier than Brio, although this card's existence makes Brio easier to Summon as well) and it can't do anything for you as a monster on the field. It is your only way of recycling your banished Ritual Spells, but that is hardly notable.1.- Exa was the only one who didnt have an ice barrier nekroz counterpart2.- It makes this easier to summon, as you said it doesnt offer anything to the offensive, so at least make it easier to summon3.- if it wouldnt have it, you could discard it and nekroz cycle it among other plays4.- I asume this is good5-6.- OG dewloren effect (if it werent changed to its nekroz counterpart) doesnt offer anyhting to them, although it can be used as a way to recycle stuff (not that its what is what ment for), so this effect is dedicated to that aspect. and they already have brio, unicore and clausolas (there is also catastor) to counter extra deck mosters, why would they need something else in that area Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azuriena Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 1.- Exa was the only one who didnt have an ice barrier nekroz counterpart2.- It makes this easier to summon, as you said it doesnt offer anything to the offensive, so at least make it easier to summon3.- if it wouldnt have it, you could discard it and nekroz cycle it among other plays4.- I asume this is good5-6.- OG dewloren effect (if it werent changed to its nekroz counterpart) doesnt offer anyhting to them, although it can be used as a way to recycle stuff (not that its what is what ment for), so this effect is dedicated to that aspect. and they already have brio, unicore and clausolas (there is also catastor) to counter extra deck mosters, why would they need something else in that areaThose 6 points were strictly on flavour and in-theme consistency. 1. Ritual Monsters whose Levels are a multiple of 3 are Warrior-Type because they are Shurit. Exa is Level 5. Also, Great Sorcerer doesn't have an Ice Barrier armour either.2. Level 4 and lower Ritual Monsters have no Ritual Summoning restrictions. Level 5 and 6 Ritual Monsters cannot be Ritual Summoned using another copy of themselves. Level 7 and higher Ritual Monsters cannot be Ritual Summoned using monsters with the same Level as themselves.3. It is incredibly difficult to Cycle a Level 6. It is the worst Ritual Spell for a 6. It's a major reason why this card is so ineffectual, and I've said this already. It's not worth breaking convention to give it this restriction it doesn't need; none of the Ritual Monsters have super hard OPT. As a note, if you're going to design a card for an existing archetype, you should follow their conventions and design the unique parts of your card accordingly.4. As said, everything here is a flavour/theme issue. One of the things I like most about Nekroz, as a newer archetype, is that it doesn't have any restrictions apart from its huge number of hard OPTs. A restriction like this one is completely out of place.5. I'm not talking about the effect of the on-field effect. In fact, I think it's fine. Both OG and Nekroz of Unicore's effect is a Continuous Effect. Both OG and Nekroz of Catastor's effect is a Trigger Effect. Both OG and Nekroz of Brionac's, Valkyrus', and Decisive Armor's effects are Ignition Effects. Both OG and Nekroz of Trishula's and Sophia's effects are Trigger Effects that activate when they are Ritual Summoned. Clausolas' and Gungir's effects are Quick Effects while originally Ignition Effects. (Quick Effects are essentially stronger Ignition Effects; see how Super Quant Xyzs can upgrade their Ignition Effects to Quick Effects.) So why does OG Dewloren, who has an Ignition Effect, have a Nekroz counterpart that activates like Trishula or Sophia instead?6. Again, I am talking flavour here. Refer to what I said above in point 3 about designing the unique aspects of your card around the conventions that has been established for its archetype. The Level 6 and lower Nekroz Ritual Monsters have effects that involve Extra Deck monsters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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