Francis Urquhart Posted October 22, 2016 Report Share Posted October 22, 2016 Since today marks the first day of early voting here in America, I have decided to start my challenge. Now, some of the monsters here are more than willing to make you scratch your head and cross your eyes at their challenges, but I believe in being up front with you, the American people, so my challenge is probably going to be the easiest one. All I ask you to do is write who you plan on voting for in the 2016 US Presidential Election, or who you would vote for if you are not a citizen of the United States, and give your reasoning why. It doesn't have to be long, though the more detail the better, and if I believe your answer is sufficient and isn't merely something along the lines of "I'm voting for Hillary Clinton because she's a woman", "I'm voting for Donald Trump because he's a businessman", or "I'm voting for Frank Underwood because he's honest", I will send you a private message containing the hint Mr. Flowey gave me to give you all. However, I will not accept PM submissions. You have to post your response here, where your peers can see you. Rules:1. No responses to submissions in this thread by anyone other than myself. If you want to debate someone regarding their opinions posted on this thread, we have other sub-forums and threads for that.2. Only one submission per user. If I did not think your submission was sufficient, then that's too bad, because I won't read it again if you go back and edit it after I made my verdict. This is to encourage you to really use think about what you are putting down.3. You may say what you wish about myself or the other candidates, but do keep in mind that this website has rules regarding its forums, and that we are to abide by them.4. Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yui Posted October 22, 2016 Report Share Posted October 22, 2016 I'm keeping my hands clean of this entire mess of an election. As a general rule, I don't really care for politics one way or the other; as long as I'm left in peace, all is well for me. The 2016 election however is a funking disaster. On the democratic side we've got the most-likely corrupt Hillary Clinton who wants to keep things as they are last I heard ("as they are" is not good; have you seen this place lately?). On the republican side we've got Donald Trump, who has got to be the most ignorant, unprofessional, sheet-brained and just so many more adjectives I don't like using, candidate I have ever had the displeasure of seeing get this far. I'd sooner put George W. Bush back in office than let either of these two run our nation for four years, and I funking hate that guy. But I digress. "Why not vote for a third party?" one may ask. With how blown out of proportions Hillary and Trump have gotten, there's literally no point. The faithful democrats/republicans are still going to respectively vote Hillary and Trump. The uneducated and crass demographic Trump is trying to tap into will vote for Trump (and in America, we have a lot of these twats), and the people who are vehemently against Trump in office (read: smart people) are going to default to Hillary. The sheer fact that these two candidates have turned into one giant scandal of an election casts such a huge shadow over everyone else that you could fit all of Russia in it. If I vote for a third-party candidate what am I gonna say, "I threw a pebble at a mountain"? Sorry Frank, you seem like an alright guy, but I have to pass this year and hope we're still a nation for the next one in 2020. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Urquhart Posted October 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2016 I'm keeping my hands clean of this entire mess of an election. As a general rule, I don't really care for politics one way or the other; as long as I'm left in peace, all is well for me. The 2016 election however is a funking disaster. On the democratic side we've got the most-likely corrupt Hillary Clinton who wants to keep things as they are last I heard ("as they are" is not good; have you seen this place lately?). On the republican side we've got Donald Trump, who has got to be the most ignorant, unprofessional, sheet-brained and just so many more adjectives I don't like using, candidate I have ever had the displeasure of seeing get this far. I'd sooner put George W. Bush back in office than let either of these two run our nation for four years, and I funking hate that guy. But I digress. "Why not vote for a third party?" one may ask. With how blown out of proportions Hillary and Trump have gotten, there's literally no point. The faithful democrats/republicans are still going to respectively vote Hillary and Trump. The uneducated and crass demographic Trump is trying to tap into will vote for Trump (and in America, we have a lot of these twats), and the people who are vehemently against Trump in office (read: smart people) are going to default to Hillary. The sheer fact that these two candidates have turned into one giant scandal of an election casts such a huge shadow over everyone else that you could fit all of Russia in it. If I vote for a third-party candidate what am I gonna say, "I threw a pebble at a mountain"? Sorry Frank, you seem like an alright guy, but I have to pass this year and hope we're still a nation for the next one in 2020.This is exactly the kind of response I am looking for, and I did not say you could simply choose to not vote. Congratulations. You are my first challenge winner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yui Posted October 22, 2016 Report Share Posted October 22, 2016 Well this was a pleasant surprise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted October 22, 2016 Report Share Posted October 22, 2016 If I was a US citizen, I wouldn't vote for either Clinton or Trump. Not gonna lie, the campaign to put it mildly, has been a bit of a shambles. On one hand we have Trump, who imo isn't really suited for the office of President, he's ignorant and unprofessional (and that's being nice). On the other we have Hillary Clinton who isn't exactly a model candidate either. It's no surprise both of these candidates are two of the most hated since polling began. Given that, I would probably vote for Frank Underwood because he seems charismatic, professional and would more likely be capable of fixing America's problems than either Clinton or Trump. Then again I don't particularly care for politics and I suppose it's a good thing that I don't live in the US at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Urquhart Posted October 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2016 If I was a US citizen, I wouldn't vote for either Clinton or Trump. Not gonna lie, the campaign to put it mildly, has been a bit of a shambles. On one hand we have Trump, who imo isn't really suited for the office of President, he's ignorant and unprofessional (and that's being nice). On the other we have Hillary Clinton who isn't exactly a model candidate either. It's no surprise both of these candidates are two of the most hated since polling began. Given that, I would probably vote for Frank Underwood because he seems charismatic, professional and would more likely be capable of fixing America's problems than either Clinton or Trump. Then again I don't particularly care for politics and I suppose it's a good thing that I don't live in the US at the moment.You are making me blush, good sir. Consider yourself victorious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordCowCowCowCowCowCowCowCow Posted October 22, 2016 Report Share Posted October 22, 2016 I have thought about this long and hard and I decided that I will vote for Hilary. But I'm not too happy about that. It's a sad day in American history when I can say that, having only had two elections I could vote for, one of them I feel little confidence in.But this is about why we're voting for whoever, is it not? Well here we go. I don't believe Trump can run a country. He seems to have difficulty expressing himself, and with diplomacy, and, whatever faults Hilary has (and there are many), she at least has some capability of being tactful, and make smart, diplomatic, decisions that won't blow up in our face. From all I've seen this election year isn't to vote for the best president. But it, instead, is to vote for someone I believe we can ride these four years out with without major harm. Thus, Hilary.And sorry Frank I can't vote for you due to it being a write-in which probably is not the best choice right now given how close this election could be. ...btw could we have a rule enforced where no one besides you can respond to these? That'd suck if someone tried to start debating in this topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Urquhart Posted October 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2016 I have thought about this long and hard and I decided that I will vote for Hilary. But I'm not too happy about that. It's a sad day in American history when I can say that, having only had two elections I could vote for, one of them I feel little confidence in.But this is about why we're voting for whoever, is it not? Well here we go. I don't believe Trump can run a country. He seems to have difficulty expressing himself, and with diplomacy, and, whatever faults Hilary has (and there are many), she at least has some capability of being tactful, and make smart, diplomatic, decisions that won't blow up in our face. From all I've seen this election year isn't to vote for the best president. But it, instead, is to vote for someone I believe we can ride these four years out with without major harm. Thus, Hilary.And sorry Frank I can't vote for you due to it being a write-in which probably is not the best choice right now given how close this election could be. ...btw could we have a rule enforced where no one besides you can respond to these? That'd suck if someone tried to start debating in this topic.That's only fair for you to believe that, though it saddens me that you don't think I could run this country as I have been. Never even heard of this "Brock O'Bannock" anyways. However, I do agree with that proposal of making sure no one should starts a debate. After all, that's why we have that lovely forum thread regarding the presidential race, isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordCowCowCowCowCowCowCowCow Posted October 22, 2016 Report Share Posted October 22, 2016 Sorry to make you the sads Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaina Posted October 22, 2016 Report Share Posted October 22, 2016 Well, politics are something I don't particularly ever pay attention, and were it a different election I'd still likely still not make a vote due to being uneducated. That being said, I'm not going to vote for anyone because I am educated on these two. Both Trump and Hilary are bad. Like, I have absolutely no trust in either of them. Hilary is more likely than not a criminal who has been involved in numerous dubious things that make me think she's not someone I want with, perhaps not absolute control, but still enough to matter on a grand scale for the place I live in. Trump, is like a hysteric man child who basically throws a tantrum when things don't go his way and has zero respect for anyone else. Trump's campaign has a huge problem with it that I really don't like, being that he is preying on people's fears and trying to convince them that basically we need to fear everyone in the world and that a vote for Trump will basically make you safe, but won't necessarily make this country "great again." From what I've seen, Hilary's campaign is mostly based on the fact that Trump is a completely awful candidate. They are both chronic liars and seem to have this skewed idea that they are above consequences and if they say something didn't happen, when there is so much evidence pointing to it that it did, it clearly did not happen. As far as debating goes, they're both garbage at it. I walked away from all three of these debates without any idea why I should care about their policies versus their opponent, because all they do is talk in circles. They avoid questions like the plague and just start going off on irrelevant tangents that leave me more confused an annoyed then anything else. In addition to that, they show themselves as having zero respect for the other, which while I could accept it if they didn't, doing it on stage is really bad. Trump interrupts her at every given opportunity, for seemingly no reason other than there's a mic in front of him, and when he speaks Hilary has the most snide look on her face I swear she's like seconds from bursting out laughing. While sure, you're allowed to hate whoever you hate, when you can't keep up a good face in front of a person you disagree with from your own country, how are you expected to do it with others in different countries? Now, all that being said, I do think that Hilary is the better candidate. She might be a liar and possibly a criminal, but she's definitely more qualified and the fact that she's managed to still stay in politics and be relevant in them in spite of this shows that she can still function well as one. Trump, has no experience, no ability in actually having a conversation in which he's on equal terms with someone as opposed to superior and I fear for the country if he's elected. She might make the country worse on a domestic level, but Trump's policies and thoughts make me think that every thing you could manage to funk up as a president and every nation you could manage to piss off as America, he will. But despite me thinking she's a better candidate I still don't want to vote for her. There's the old saying, "the lesser of two evils is still evil," and I don't really feel like I should elect someone I think is evil to take charge of my home. Why not vote 3rd party, you might ask? Because I don't even know who the third party candidates are, let alone what they believe and stand for. Then there's the argument that if I don't vote for someone then clearly I'm voting for the person who wins, which I personally find flawed for similar reasons of if you vote third party you're really just making "x republican/democrat" win/lose. I'm a citizen and I have the right to vote for who I want to, so it shouldn't be limited to just two different people who I don't believe in at all, and so I'm exercising my right by choosing neither. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Urquhart Posted October 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2016 Well, politics are something I don't particularly ever pay attention, and were it a different election I'd still likely still not make a vote due to being uneducated. That being said, I'm not going to vote for anyone because I am educated on these two. Both Trump and Hilary are bad. Like, I have absolutely no trust in either of them. Hilary is more likely than not a criminal who has been involved in numerous dubious things that make me think she's not someone I want with, perhaps not absolute control, but still enough to matter on a grand scale for the place I live in. Trump, is like a hysteric man child who basically throws a tantrum when things don't go his way and has zero respect for anyone else. Trump's campaign has a huge problem with it that I really don't like, being that he is preying on people's fears and trying to convince them that basically we need to fear everyone in the world and that a vote for Trump will basically make you safe, but won't necessarily make this country "great again." From what I've seen, Hilary's campaign is mostly based on the fact that Trump is a completely awful candidate. They are both chronic liars and seem to have this skewed idea that they are above consequences and if they say something didn't happen, when there is so much evidence pointing to it that it did, it clearly did not happen. As far as debating goes, they're both garbage at it. I walked away from all three of these debates without any idea why I should care about their policies versus their opponent, because all they do is talk in circles. They avoid questions like the plague and just start going off on irrelevant tangents that leave me more confused an annoyed then anything else. In addition to that, they show themselves as having zero respect for the other, which while I could accept it if they didn't, doing it on stage is really bad. Trump interrupts her at every given opportunity, for seemingly no reason other than there's a mic in front of him, and when he speaks Hilary has the most snide look on her face I swear she's like seconds from bursting out laughing. While sure, you're allowed to hate whoever you hate, when you can't keep up a good face in front of a person you disagree with from your own country, how are you expected to do it with others in different countries? Now, all that being said, I do think that Hilary is the better candidate. She might be a liar and possibly a criminal, but she's definitely more qualified and the fact that she's managed to still stay in politics and be relevant in them in spite of this shows that she can still function well as one. Trump, has no experience, no ability in actually having a conversation in which he's on equal terms with someone as opposed to superior and I fear for the country if he's elected. She might make the country worse on a domestic level, but Trump's policies and thoughts make me think that every thing you could manage to funk up as a president and every nation you could manage to piss off as America, he will. But despite me thinking she's a better candidate I still don't want to vote for her. There's the old saying, "the lesser of two evils is still evil," and I don't really feel like I should elect someone I think is evil to take charge of my home. Why not vote 3rd party, you might ask? Because I don't even know who the third party candidates are, let alone what they believe and stand for. Then there's the argument that if I don't vote for someone then clearly I'm voting for the person who wins, which I personally find flawed for similar reasons of if you vote third party you're really just making "x republican/democrat" win/lose. I'm a citizen and I have the right to vote for who I want to, so it shouldn't be limited to just two different people who I don't believe in at all, and so I'm exercising my right by choosing neither.And not a single mention of me. Regardless, yours is very in-depth, and not all too biased. The clue is yours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordCowCowCowCowCowCowCowCow Posted October 22, 2016 Report Share Posted October 22, 2016 That might be the longest I've seen Skaia post outside of RP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Urquhart Posted October 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2016 That might be the longest I've seen Skaia post outside of RPWhich is the point, is it not? I am presenting a challenge, not of wits or abstract thinking, but of being able to deliver a thoughtful, well-informed opinion that has lasting consequences. That is a crucial skill for a politician, or any job that requires as much mental juggling as the other challenges wish to exercise. And one that many in a seat of power sadly lack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruin Posted October 23, 2016 Report Share Posted October 23, 2016 I'm just going to say one thing about this election, I'm moving to Canada until 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Urquhart Posted October 23, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2016 I'm just going to say one thing about this election, I'm moving to Canada until 2020Good for you. But sadly, that post goes against the rules of this thread, and is therefore not enough for you to get anything from the challenge. And you cannot try and re-enter it, so I hope you are happy blowing your opportunity to get my clue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted October 23, 2016 Report Share Posted October 23, 2016 Trump 1) He'll lower taxes2) His Ethics plan for Washington is revolutionary 3) He's largely self-funded w/ very little Super-Pac money4) He's pro-life5) He's a protectionist-keynesian6) He'll cut the head off political correctness7) He's not a warhawk8) He's not a career politician, and one of the few capable of breaking the GOP-Dem cycle9) He has tact unlike the opposition who has destabilized at least 3 regions with her actions10) He's a moderate 11) He's hated by people on the left I hate. And he's hated by people on the right I hate. My enemy's enemy is my friend12) He's a proven comeback story and that's what America needs so badly now13) He will put America first, not give into the globalist agenda This is the first election I've been able to vote in (I was able to vote in the 2014 Midterm I guess). And I couldn't be more proud of my candidate. I proudly cast my ballot for Trump. MAGA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordCowCowCowCowCowCowCowCow Posted October 23, 2016 Report Share Posted October 23, 2016 sheet SON YOU GOT TOLD#REKT#GONNANEEDABURNHEAL#DOYOUSMELLWHATTHEFRANKISCOOKING Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Urquhart Posted October 23, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2016 Trump 1) He'll lower taxes2) His Ethics plan for Washington is crazy3) He's largely self-funded w/ very little Super-Pac money4) He's pro-life5) He's a protectionist-keynesian6) He'll cut the head of political correctness7) He's not a warhawk8) He's not a career politician, and one of the few capable of breaking the GOP-Dem cycle9) He has tact unlike the opposition who has destabilized at least 3 regions with her actions10) He's a moderate 11) He's hated by people on the left I hate. And he's hated by people on the right I hate. My enemy's enemy is my friend12) He's a proven comeback story and that's what America needs so badly now13) He will put America first, not give into the globalist agenda This is the first election I've been able to vote in (I was able to vote in the 2014 Midterm I guess). And I couldn't be more proud of my candidate. I proudly cast my ballot for Trump. MAGA Quite the display there. Definitely worthy of your due reward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunshine Jesse Posted October 23, 2016 Report Share Posted October 23, 2016 Hillary. 1. Her agenda is the most progressive one of any modern presidential nominee.2. She's a political incrementalist, which I believe is the best way to go about things with a divided House and Senate.3. But she also knows how to reach across the aisle and garner support from both sides.4. Supports single-payer healthcare, however unrealistic she may believe it to implement.5. She supports the end of prison privatization.6. Unambiguously positive on LGBT rights.7. Supports clean energy.8. Supports common sense gun regulation.9. She has the most experience of anyone in Washington by an overwhelming margin.10. Not Donald Trump. I can't say I'm proud to vote for her, but her issues still align with mine to enough of a degree to support her. #itsherturniguess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Urquhart Posted October 23, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2016 Hillary. 1. Her agenda is the most progressive one of any modern presidential nominee.2. She's a political incrementalist, which I believe is the best way to go about things with a divided House and Senate.3. But she also knows how to reach across the aisle and garner support from both sides.4. Supports single-payer healthcare, however unrealistic she may believe it to implement.5. She supports the end of prison privatization.6. Unambiguously positive on LGBT rights.7. Supports clean energy.8. Supports common sense gun regulation.9. She has the most experience of anyone in Washington by an overwhelming margin.10. Not Donald Trump. I can't say I'm proud to vote for her, but her issues still align with mine to enough of a degree to support her. #itsherturniguessYou have yourself a winning post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simping For Hina Posted October 23, 2016 Report Share Posted October 23, 2016 funk politics. I already made my decision and that involves Kook sitting on my face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Urquhart Posted October 24, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2016 funk politics. I already made my decision and that involves Kook sitting on my face.Well, in that case, you don't get a clue either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lung Tien Lien Posted October 26, 2016 Report Share Posted October 26, 2016 Well I may be a monster, and more acquainted with the successions of kings and emperors, but I'm quite sure that some of the monsters you have to vote for are less qualified than even the worst of my compatriots. I also reside in France currently, and cannot vote yet (because dragons have not achieved such a right in America) but if I were to vote, my vote would not be For either the democrat or the republican, my vote will be for the third party. I understand very well that the third party will not win this election, but on that same note, if I were never to vote for them, even under these circumstances, when would they ever win anything at all? Much less gain recognition? The journey of 1000 miles starts with a single step. Had the Americans who hated their options instead turned to the secondaries, Johnson, Mcmullin, and Stein, who here could argue that their presence in debates could not have stolen the rest of the momentum away from both Trump and Clinton? Were I in your positions, and held the top two in as much disdain as many an American appears to, I would chose the third party not because I would expect them to win, but because it is sheer folly to complain of my only 2 options when in truth, 5 sit upon the table.Donald trump is among the most foolish men I have laid eyes upon in regards to temperament. Though he reminds me somewhat of Napoleon in his ambition, his manners leave much to be desired, but the eagerness of the American media to demonize him sits with me even less than his own actions. His attitude is that of pure arrogance, He is a constant braggart, his ability to clarify would leave even the purest of water muddy, and while he has made many a decent point in his campaign, I cannot say that he has left us knowing anything more of his policies where it counts than we did in the beginning. One needs only to look over the charade that you Americans called a debate so see as much. He was neither clear, nor concise, he was rude in the extreme, and did not carry himself in a manner befitting of a ruler. Why anyone would vote for him under such reasons as "If he loses, Hillary wins" escapes me. Your media though, even with such valid ammunition against him, would still have you believe him capable of things he has neither said, nor done. I can understand that many would see him as a viable option, manners are indeed not everything, and he is charismatic enough to sway one over to hi side should they not mind manners as much, but to vote for him simply because of charisma, or promises, is folly, it seems to me.On the other wing, we have Clinton, the human most likely to die of stress over the next 4 years should they become president. I have seen and heard many a tale of her collapsing, or otherwise falling out of commission on the job. I would as soon place that human in a retirement home as I would place her in the white house. Those claiming to be voting for her simply because she is a woman should go reevaluate themselves, and then vote for Jill Stein, who while still female, would be far less likely to burn this country down around her, be arrested for corruption, or die of advanced age complications. There is an abundance of evidence that she is in the pocket of larger benefactors. I cannot fathom why on would consider such a corrupt politician. Especially when one considers how many dead are hidden behind such a false smile. Her ability to dodge questions is exceeded only by Donald trump, and her constant referencing of the hatchlings that we must think of and the women we must support is enough to make me want to break an egg and a tampon both, over her skull. She speaks for none but herself as she hides behind the faces of those who never asked to be her poster-children. Her spoken agenda is of no consequence to me, as we have seen she has held quite a large sum of power for longer than many a head in your country, and has yet to improve even the smallest of districts. Unlike that pompous braggart, she has had, and still holds, the power to enact change for such an extensive period of time, and has squandered it considerably. Her manners, while better than those of trump, are not so much better that I could endorse her with anything resembling a clean conscience. She is simply not a being that I would permit to rule me for any period of time, much less 4 or more years.Which brings us to the third party, of whom your media is intent to ignore or insult. Going to such lengths as to say that a vote for them is a vote for trump, as if the reverse (a vote for them is a vote for Hillary) could never even be considered. In fact, to make such a claim is to remove the legitimacy of the third parties without even granting the the respect due their ambitions. Your entire country has decided as a whole to not only disgrace the third party, as if they were only ever to be a distraction, but many in your country are so dishonorable that they cannot even dismiss your third candidates based upon their platforms (assuming they know anything at all of the third party platforms). For the media itself to dismiss a candidate not upon their own merits, but upon the merits of another candidate entirely, is a disgrace to them and the election system. Completely ignoring that those who wish to abstain from voting, are doing so simply because the voting candidates from both major parties are so acidic to each other than it demoralizes those who only wish for a leader in possession of the basics of common sense, which neither major party candidate has demonstrated often, if at all. Many American, and even a few foreign news sites, are claiming that such an action would be considered a "spoiler vote" or some other such drivel. Your vote is your own, and it is owed to nobody unless you believe they deserve it, no matter what region of America you live in. To vote your conscience is the only logical path that you need take. For voting in a horrible candidate, when you had the option of choosing one of both higher standard and caliber, would be the truest waste of a vote that I could imagine. In fact, a candidate in one of your states, Utah if I recall, does not even appear on the national map, and yet, has beaten both Trump and Clinton in many a poll in his own state, yet he still does not garner recognition from any news source outside of that state, and scarce attains it even there. The three third parties could sway the votes incredibly if granted fair coverage. There are options other than the main two. While I would never begrudge one who is voting for the top two because they see them as legitimate candidates, were I in any of your shoes, I would take the third party most aligned to myself, if only to send a message to the two largest parties that such a parse selection is not to be borne.But I am a dragon, and as such, I cannot vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Urquhart Posted October 26, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2016 Well I may be a monster, and more acquainted with the successions of kings and emperors, but I'm quite sure that some of the monsters you have to vote for are less qualified than even the worst of my compatriots. I also reside in France currently, and cannot vote yet (because dragons have not achieved such a right in America) but if I were to vote, my vote would not be For either the democrat or the republican, my vote will be for the third party. I understand very well that the third party will not win this election, but on that same note, if I were never to vote for them, even under these circumstances, when would they ever win anything at all? Much less gain recognition? The journey of 1000 miles starts with a single step. Had the Americans who hated their options instead turned to the secondaries, Johnson, Mcmullin, and Stein, who here could argue that their presence in debates could not have stolen the rest of the momentum away from both Trump and Clinton? Were I in your positions, and held the top two in as much disdain as many an American appears to, I would chose the third party not because I would expect them to win, but because it is sheer folly to complain of my only 2 options when in truth, 5 sit upon the table. Donald trump is among the most foolish men I have laid eyes upon in regards to temperament. Though he reminds me somewhat of Napoleon in his ambition, his manners leave much to be desired, but the eagerness of the American media to demonize him sits with me even less than his own actions. His attitude is that of pure arrogance, He is a constant braggart, his ability to clarify would leave even the purest of water muddy, and while he has made many a decent point in his campaign, I cannot say that he has left us knowing anything more of his policies where it counts than we did in the beginning. One needs only to look over the charade that you Americans called a debate so see as much. He was neither clear, nor concise, he was rude in the extreme, and did not carry himself in a manner befitting of a ruler. Why anyone would vote for him under such reasons as "If he loses, Hillary wins" escapes me. Your media though, even with such valid ammunition against him, would still have you believe him capable of things he has neither said, nor done. I can understand that many would see him as a viable option, manners are indeed not everything, and he is charismatic enough to sway one over to hi side should they not mind manners as much, but to vote for him simply because of charisma, or promises, is folly, it seems to me. On the other wing, we have Clinton, the human most likely to die of stress over the next 4 years should they become president. I have seen and heard many a tale of her collapsing, or otherwise falling out of commission on the job. I would as soon place that human in a retirement home as I would place her in the white house. Those claiming to be voting for her simply because she is a woman should go reevaluate themselves, and then vote for Jill Stein, who while still female, would be far less likely to burn this country down around her, be arrested for corruption, or die of advanced age complications. There is an abundance of evidence that she is in the pocket of larger benefactors. I cannot fathom why on would consider such a corrupt politician. Especially when one considers how many dead are hidden behind such a false smile. Her ability to dodge questions is exceeded only by Donald trump, and her constant referencing of the hatchlings that we must think of and the women we must support is enough to make me want to break an egg and a tampon both, over her skull. She speaks for none but herself as she hides behind the faces of those who never asked to be her poster-children. Her spoken agenda is of no consequence to me, as we have seen she has held quite a large sum of power for longer than many a head in your country, and has yet to improve even the smallest of districts. Unlike that pompous braggart, she has had, and still holds, the power to enact change for such an extensive period of time, and has squandered it considerably. Her manners, while better than those of trump, are not so much better that I could endorse her with anything resembling a clean conscience. She is simply not a being that I would permit to rule me for any period of time, much less 4 or more years. Which brings us to the third party, of whom your media is intent to ignore or insult. Going to such lengths as to say that a vote for them is a vote for trump, as if the reverse (a vote for them is a vote for Hillary) could never even be considered. In fact, to make such a claim is to remove the legitimacy of the third parties without even granting the the respect due their ambitions. Your entire country has decided as a whole to not only disgrace the third party, as if they were only ever to be a distraction, but many in your country are so dishonorable that they cannot even dismiss your third candidates based upon their platforms (assuming they know anything at all of the third party platforms). For the media itself to dismiss a candidate not upon their own merits, but upon the merits of another candidate entirely, is a disgrace to them and the election system. Completely ignoring that those who wish to abstain from voting, are doing so simply because the voting candidates from both major parties are so acidic to each other than it demoralizes those who only wish for a leader in possession of the basics of common sense, which neither major party candidate has demonstrated often, if at all. Many American, and even a few foreign news sites, are claiming that such an action would be considered a "spoiler vote" or some other such drivel. Your vote is your own, and it is owed to nobody unless you believe they deserve it, no matter what region of America you live in. To vote your conscience is the only logical path that you need take. For voting in a horrible candidate, when you had the option of choosing one of both higher standard and caliber, would be the truest waste of a vote that I could imagine. In fact, a candidate in one of your states, Utah if I recall, does not even appear on the national map, and yet, has beaten both Trump and Clinton in many a poll in his own state, yet he still does not garner recognition from any news source outside of that state, and scarce attains it even there. The three third parties could sway the votes incredibly if granted fair coverage. There are options other than the main two. While I would never begrudge one who is voting for the top two because they see them as legitimate candidates, were I in any of your shoes, I would take the third party most aligned to myself, if only to send a message to the two largest parties that such a parse selection is not to be borne. But I am a dragon, and as such, I cannot vote.Very well, then, good sir. You get your clue. 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