ragnarok1945 Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 Do you consider suicide without harming anyone a sin then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raelen Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 I think it's not as bad as murder. You aren't hurting others.But God judges all sins equally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 so you still think it is a sin because you didn't try to rise above your own pains? Some people's willpower alone simply isn't enough for that you know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raelen Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 It's really hard to say if suicide is a sin. I can't be the one to say.I think it's a stupid thing to do, though. Kill yourself for a silly reason that you can get over.It's the easy way out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 actually some reasons can't be gotten over that easily. Sometimes you see no way out (or even if you do, it'll make the rest of your life miserable just to live on) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raelen Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 So the only way you can those problems is by killing yourself?You can get over it. It might be hard, but you will get over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 yeah but depression affects judgment and some can't see it that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raelen Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 yeah but depression affects judgment and some can't see it that way. Yeah. It's a sad situation.Well, see you tomorrow.-Raelen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 you're saying this now because you're able to think clearly. You have to put yourself in others' shoes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gogeta™ Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 If I may place my opinion, I think suicide is the option left up to the person. Some people really do have problems that don't resolve over time and if they honestly have no other door open to them... then suicide is an option to that person. I thought about suicide a few times before, but I thought of the ramifications afterwards and saw the wrong of it. So yeah suicide is somewhat wrong yet its right. But if you truly have a just reason for doing so then you have the right to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 wrong and right are just POVs in the end, but what you said is true. Choice on the other hand is not so much as a POV and therefore you have the final say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gogeta™ Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 So in the end suicide is the persons choice, and whether or not is right is just a POV as you put it. Ultimately "Do people have the right to suicide?" is not for anyone to say, just for the person who does it... or doesn't do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 it'd be the same thing as asking do people have the right to choice (although while usually the answer is yes, it still depends on the person) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Prince_of_Death Posted December 21, 2008 Report Share Posted December 21, 2008 you are absolutely correct ragnarok1945. In the future i shall commit suicide, not until after I graduate high shool so you dont have to worry about me that much until then.(I'm serious) I wish to see if there is a "life after death", if there isnt a life after death then I'm okay with it because I was meant to be dead at the time I die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted December 21, 2008 Report Share Posted December 21, 2008 right, and how are you going to tell the people if you discover there really is an afterlife? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Prince_of_Death Posted December 21, 2008 Report Share Posted December 21, 2008 I shall bring them with me, or send a message to a psychic or something. I like the part about taking everyone with me though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted December 21, 2008 Report Share Posted December 21, 2008 as long as you don't take anyone with you in death, I'm satisfied Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Prince_of_Death Posted December 21, 2008 Report Share Posted December 21, 2008 Thats the hard part, because when I die many others will too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted December 21, 2008 Report Share Posted December 21, 2008 you're going to be a suicide bomber? You better not die on some holy mission of yours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Prince_of_Death Posted December 21, 2008 Report Share Posted December 21, 2008 [sarcasm]Ha Ha very funny[/sarcasm] I wont be a suicide bomber(I think). Also I am not religious. I'm not sure about the deatails about my death except that I will take many people with me(some how I dont know). i dont know the when, they the why, the how, nor the who will come with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Prince_of_Death Posted December 21, 2008 Report Share Posted December 21, 2008 I wont be a suicide bomber(I think). also I'm not religious because I have nothing to really belive in enough to where it says i should kill myself and take as many people with me as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted December 21, 2008 Report Share Posted December 21, 2008 but you just said when you die (of your choice) you'd take others with you. Explain yourself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Prince_of_Death Posted December 26, 2008 Report Share Posted December 26, 2008 I just saw (in a vision) that when I die so were others. I dont know the exact details, I could have thrown myself into the blast of a bomb or grenade trying to save (good) people/kill myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted December 26, 2008 Report Share Posted December 26, 2008 and your body is basically not enough to contain the blast, so as a result there's still casualties? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Prince_of_Death Posted December 27, 2008 Report Share Posted December 27, 2008 That is the possibility of what is happening in the vision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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