Jericho Posted October 26, 2008 Report Share Posted October 26, 2008 ' pid='1277087' dateline='1224964430']Eggs come from chickens So if eating animals is wrong' date=' why do you eat eggs?[/color'] Milk comes from cows. Cheese comes from cows. So, are you saying that by drinking milk, you are killing a cow? By eating eggs, you are killing the chicken? In this sense, you are wrong. Since when does cheese come from cows? Do you go and milk the cow, but get cheese from it instead? Cheese comes from milk. Milk comes from cows. Unsing the property, it is easy to see that cheese comes cows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeroshot Posted October 26, 2008 Report Share Posted October 26, 2008 ' pid='1277087' dateline='1224964430']Eggs come from chickens So if eating animals is wrong' date=' why do you eat eggs?[/color'] Milk comes from cows. Cheese comes from cows. So, are you saying that by drinking milk, you are killing a cow? By eating eggs, you are killing the chicken? In this sense, you are wrong. Since when does cheese come from cows? Do you go and milk the cow, but get cheese from it instead? No, you cheese a cow to get cheese. Duh. ' pid='1277312' dateline='1224968137']' pid='1276807' dateline='1224960565']Wow' date=' I am too retarted? Again, real mature. Maturity is evident in you. [/sar'] Animals and animals are NOT of the same species? Wow, stupidest statement anyone on YCM made. I would sig that, but I have no more sig room left. >_< Go ahead, put in in your sig.I don't care. Your wrong we're right. Animal is not a species-Zeroshot Go ahead sig it.I'll lol at you if you do.lrn2definition I get so many posts and points from this thread alone. I love YCM. Ah-hem! Anyways, ANIMALS IS A SPECIES. And if I am wrong, which I may be, humans eating animals is still considered cannibalism. These posts remind me of a debate I had with Draco, about being opinionated and biased. I can say 100% that everyone who supports me is a veggie. Everyone who does not is a meatie. That is bias at its worst. Animal is a biological group of living organisms.Plants are another. Species of Animals could be replaced as Types of Animals.Or Types of Species of Animals. for your 2nd statement DUH!Do you really think a vegitarian is going to say that eating animals is good and vice versa. After a ton of research, here you go. Vegetarian-friendly foods WITH Protein... Veggie OmeletsVeggie BurgersFrench ToastPeanutsPeanut ButterPB and J sandwichBasically anything with EGGS So, there you have it. Oh, and by the way, it is impossible to live off of meat only. Humans are only built to be a vegetarian or an omnivore. What say you, Zeroshot? Then it really sucks to be a vegitarian.Omnivores and Carnivors get to enjoy their lives. Eggs, like Clariex says, come from chickens. Sorry little chick, I'm going to have to kill you to feed you to some vegitarian or we can spend billions of dollars, have the economy get destroyed and keep 12% of our country happy.Peanut Butter is no heathier than a quarter pound cheeseburgar. Read the lables. Unless you get the "Natural" crap that tastes horrible.I'd continue but I'm not in the mood to debate today.Thanks for raising my post count *Shakes [Dark]'s hand. Again, you go ignoring the vital truth. It is impossible for a human to live as a carnivore. We can either be an omnivore or a vegetarian. Egg's may come from chickens, but the chick is NOT developed, nor are we killing this chicken. And, I shake your hand as well. I have gotten so many posts and points from this debate. So, No it is not.There is something that is the complete opposite of Vegetarian which name escapes me but can survive none the less.So killing an undeveloped human baby is considered murderbut killing an undevelped baby chick is considered food? I thought animals were the same species [/sarcasm] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Posted October 26, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2008 Well, after a nice long sleep, I'm back. I hate quoting 20 billion posts, so let's go with Zerotshot's. Killing an undeveloped baby IS NOT considered murder.Killing a semi-developed baby IS considered murder.Killing a fully-developed baby IS considered murder. Now, let's plug these statements in... Killing an undeveloped chick IS NOT considered murder.Killing a semi-developed chick IS considered murder.Killing a fully-developed chick IS considered murder. And where do eggs come from? Wait for it... undeveloped chicks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skuldur Posted October 26, 2008 Report Share Posted October 26, 2008 ' pid='1280636' dateline='1225035830']Well' date=' after a nice long sleep, I'm back. I hate quoting 20 billion posts, so let's go with Zerotshot's. Killing an undeveloped baby IS NOT considered murder.Killing a semi-developed baby IS considered murder.Killing a fully-developed baby IS considered murder. Now, let's plug these statements in... Killing an undeveloped chick IS NOT considered murder.Killing a semi-developed chick IS considered murder.Killing a fully-developed chick IS considered murder. And where do eggs come from? Wait for it... undeveloped chicks.[/quote'] Eggs come from Chicken not undeveloped chicks. Face it you have lost this debate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Cobra Posted October 26, 2008 Report Share Posted October 26, 2008 Kill only when you need to eat. Otherwise, don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Posted October 26, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2008 ' pid='1280636' dateline='1225035830']Well' date=' after a nice long sleep, I'm back. I hate quoting 20 billion posts, so let's go with Zerotshot's. Killing an undeveloped baby IS NOT considered murder.Killing a semi-developed baby IS considered murder.Killing a fully-developed baby IS considered murder. Now, let's plug these statements in... Killing an undeveloped chick IS NOT considered murder.Killing a semi-developed chick IS considered murder.Killing a fully-developed chick IS considered murder. And where do eggs come from? Wait for it... undeveloped chicks.[/quote'] Eggs come from Chicken not undeveloped chicks. Face it you have lost this debate No offense, but bolded statement is the dumbest thing I have ever heard. By killing a chicken, you get eggs? Wow, that is just sad. You get CHICKEN by killing a CHICKEN. You get EGGS from defertilizing a CHICKEN EGG. Understand, bubsy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sander Posted October 26, 2008 Report Share Posted October 26, 2008 ' pid='1282660' dateline='1225057053']' pid='1280636' dateline='1225035830']Well' date=' after a nice long sleep, I'm back. I hate quoting 20 billion posts, so let's go with Zerotshot's. Killing an undeveloped baby IS NOT considered murder.Killing a semi-developed baby IS considered murder.Killing a fully-developed baby IS considered murder. Now, let's plug these statements in... Killing an undeveloped chick IS NOT considered murder.Killing a semi-developed chick IS considered murder.Killing a fully-developed chick IS considered murder. And where do eggs come from? Wait for it... undeveloped chicks.[/quote'] Eggs come from Chicken not undeveloped chicks. Face it you have lost this debate No offense, but bolded statement is the dumbest thing I have ever heard. By killing a chicken, you get eggs? Wow, that is just sad. You get CHICKEN by killing a CHICKEN. You get EGGS from defertilizing a CHICKEN EGG. Understand, bubsy? No, the bolded statement is the truth, your brain is just to small to understand what he meant. Wait, since when do you get a chicken BY killing a chicken? So, by that logic, chicken egg =/= a de-fertilized egg? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davok Posted October 27, 2008 Report Share Posted October 27, 2008 Um... animals isn't a species. It's a Kingdom. So basically... since the definition of cannibalism only applies to Species, not Kingdoms, then it seems to be safe to assume that eating another Animal species, and not your own, isn't considered cannibalism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeroshot Posted October 27, 2008 Report Share Posted October 27, 2008 ' pid='1282660' dateline='1225057053']' pid='1280636' dateline='1225035830']Well' date=' after a nice long sleep, I'm back. I hate quoting 20 billion posts, so let's go with Zerotshot's. Killing an undeveloped baby IS NOT considered murder.Killing a semi-developed baby IS considered murder.Killing a fully-developed baby IS considered murder. Now, let's plug these statements in... Killing an undeveloped chick IS NOT considered murder.Killing a semi-developed chick IS considered murder.Killing a fully-developed chick IS considered murder. And where do eggs come from? Wait for it... undeveloped chicks.[/quote'] Eggs come from Chicken not undeveloped chicks. Face it you have lost this debate No offense, but bolded statement is the dumbest thing I have ever heard. By killing a chicken, you get eggs? Wow, that is just sad. You get CHICKEN by killing a CHICKEN. You get EGGS from defertilizing a CHICKEN EGG. Understand, bubsy? Alright dark, you really got to quit doing that.You keep saying things like "That is the dumbest statement I have ever heard" Your making your self look really stupid, especially since you processed what he said wrong.He never said you had to kill the chicken to get eggs, your just killing the chicken that never got to live.How old are you?just wondering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willieh Posted October 27, 2008 Report Share Posted October 27, 2008 ' pid='1272786' dateline='1224880122']Eating animals is the same as cannibalism. Disagree with that statement and I label you dumb. First' date=' I really don't care if plants are alive or not. This debate is not about that. Animals are living, breathing, talking [somewhat'] creatures of nature. JUST LIKE US. I stopped reading any posts after this one. Cannibalism: 1. Digestion of human flesh. 2. An animal consuming another animal of it's own kind. Let's give you a small biology lesson. Animals are split up into different species and all sorts of different groups. If a dog eats a dog, it's cannibalism. That's because they are of the SAME KIND. If a human eats a cow, it is not cannibalism but nature. But if you consider every single organism on earth to be within the boundaries of the same species... well you're right. But you are really ... weird. To say the least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2sick4u Posted October 27, 2008 Report Share Posted October 27, 2008 ' pid='1272786' dateline='1224880122']Eating animals is the same as cannibalism. Disagree with that statement and I label you dumb. First' date=' I really don't care if plants are alive or not. This debate is not about that. Animals are living, breathing, talking [somewhat'] creatures of nature. JUST LIKE US. I stopped reading any posts after this one. Cannibalism: 1. Digestion of human flesh. 2. An animal consuming another animal of it's own kind. Let's give you a small biology lesson. Animals are split up into different species and all sorts of different groups. If a dog eats a dog' date=' it's cannibalism. That's because they are of the SAME KIND. If a human eats a cow, it is not cannibalism but nature. But if you consider every single organism on earth to be within the boundaries of the same species... well you're right. But you are really ... weird. To say the least.[/quote'] And this is exactly why I've missed you so much. =). Oh, right, Dark. Just so you know, 'Murder' is restricted to the act of one human killing another. The killing of animals is GLOBALIZED BUSINESS. If it were murder, the selling of Ham would be in the same category as prostitution. No, the killing of animal's is mere killing, not murdering. ... Well. For the hell of it, I'm going down to Ingham's later to protest that they all should get 35-life for the murdering of Chickens. You know, just to see how far your point-of-view gets me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Posted October 27, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2008 ' pid='1282660' dateline='1225057053']' pid='1280636' dateline='1225035830']Well' date=' after a nice long sleep, I'm back. I hate quoting 20 billion posts, so let's go with Zerotshot's. Killing an undeveloped baby IS NOT considered murder.Killing a semi-developed baby IS considered murder.Killing a fully-developed baby IS considered murder. Now, let's plug these statements in... Killing an undeveloped chick IS NOT considered murder.Killing a semi-developed chick IS considered murder.Killing a fully-developed chick IS considered murder. And where do eggs come from? Wait for it... undeveloped chicks.[/quote'] Eggs come from Chicken not undeveloped chicks. Face it you have lost this debate No offense, but bolded statement is the dumbest thing I have ever heard. By killing a chicken, you get eggs? Wow, that is just sad. You get CHICKEN by killing a CHICKEN. You get EGGS from defertilizing a CHICKEN EGG. Understand, bubsy? Alright dark, you really got to quit doing that.You keep saying things like "That is the dumbest statement I have ever heard" Your making your self look really stupid, especially since you processed what he said wrong.He never said you had to kill the chicken to get eggs, your just killing the chicken that never got to live.How old are you?just wondering. Well, judging by my vocabulary and grammar, take a guess. Also, just check my profile. Duh, much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Best Male 2008 Posted October 28, 2008 Report Share Posted October 28, 2008 ' pid='1286201' dateline='1225145471']' pid='1282660' dateline='1225057053']' pid='1280636' dateline='1225035830']Well' date=' after a nice long sleep, I'm back. I hate quoting 20 billion posts, so let's go with Zerotshot's. Killing an undeveloped baby IS NOT considered murder.Killing a semi-developed baby IS considered murder.Killing a fully-developed baby IS considered murder. Now, let's plug these statements in... Killing an undeveloped chick IS NOT considered murder.Killing a semi-developed chick IS considered murder.Killing a fully-developed chick IS considered murder. And where do eggs come from? Wait for it... undeveloped chicks.[/quote'] Eggs come from Chicken not undeveloped chicks. Face it you have lost this debate No offense, but bolded statement is the dumbest thing I have ever heard. By killing a chicken, you get eggs? Wow, that is just sad. You get CHICKEN by killing a CHICKEN. You get EGGS from defertilizing a CHICKEN EGG. Understand, bubsy? Alright dark, you really got to quit doing that.You keep saying things like "That is the dumbest statement I have ever heard" Your making your self look really stupid, especially since you processed what he said wrong.He never said you had to kill the chicken to get eggs, your just killing the chicken that never got to live.How old are you?just wondering. Well, judging by my vocabulary and grammar, take a guess. Also, just check my profile. Duh, much? Your 47 living with your parents, and they are living with their parents? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazer Yoshi Posted October 28, 2008 Report Share Posted October 28, 2008 Some animals were made to FEED Humans or make food for other animals. It's how it works. No Meat = Much Less Energy, and no Peanut Butter! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Best Male 2008 Posted October 28, 2008 Report Share Posted October 28, 2008 Some animals were made to FEED Humans or make food for other animals. It's how it works. No Meat = Much Less Energy' date=' and no Peanut Butter![/quote'] Explain plase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowKyogre Posted October 28, 2008 Report Share Posted October 28, 2008 ...Peanut butter comes from peanuts, not meat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Best Male 2008 Posted October 28, 2008 Report Share Posted October 28, 2008 ...Peanut butter comes from peanuts' date=' not meat.[/quote'] That's the biggest piece of bullsh*t I've heard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazer Yoshi Posted October 28, 2008 Report Share Posted October 28, 2008 Yeah, but I thought Peanuts were.... Nevermind.Anyways, you SHOULD know how we eat animals. We hunt or get them close, then we kill/Butcher them. Then we cook and keep in a room or tempature where it won't rot. Then we eat it when the time comes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakura Vessal Posted October 28, 2008 Report Share Posted October 28, 2008 ' pid='1272786' dateline='1224880122']Eating animals is the same as cannibalism. Disagree with that statement and I label you dumb. First' date=' I really don't care if plants are alive or not. This debate is not about that. Animals are living, breathing, talking [somewhat'] creatures of nature. JUST LIKE US. Then consider me dumb. Ok cannablism is agenced the law, That means you have made it that almost every person in the world has broken a serious law. I can just see the prison blocks filling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Max Posted October 28, 2008 Report Share Posted October 28, 2008 We are higher up on the Food Chain, simple as that. and lol at the comments above regarding Chickens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakura Vessal Posted October 28, 2008 Report Share Posted October 28, 2008 ' pid='1273215' dateline='1224885439']My "Berries and Nightshade" is working off of your only post with any intelligence.[spoiler=This one]Diseases that meat may/will cause. 1. Salmonella2. MCD3. Bird Flu4. Higher risk of Heart Attack5. Higher risk of Stroke6. Mercury poisioning7. Loaded with Fat8. Loaded with Cholesterol9. Raises BP10. Higher chance of Diarehha' date=' Constopation11. Higher risk of Influenza12. Food Poisioning13. Tons of diseases from UNCOOKED meats14. Tons of diseases from COOKED meats Must I go on? Your saying you can get sick with meat.I'm saying you can do worse with what's left. JoC is right; Now lions and tigers are evil.The spider is evil for killing the fly Speak some sense. For the 3rd time, I don't give a damn what you eat.[/quote'] I have been speaking sense all this while. It is you who cannot comprehend the vast notebook of knowledge I have laid before you. We are animals. We are animals. WE ARE ANIMALS. We are evolved animals, but animals all the same. We eat animals. Cannibalism, no? The dictionary thinks so. I really didn't want to join if' date=' but w/e DarkDragonX, do you really think that humans can survive without meat? No, we cannot. Really, were their any protests in the Stone age that killing and eating animals is [i']"injustice"[/i]? Face the facts already, humans have eaten meat from the start and humans will continue eating meat. Excuse me, but I have seen people live above and beyond the average age off of non-meat products. Admit it, meat is not a necessity. Everything meat contains, except of course, the meat, can be found in some natural non-meat or meat-substitute products. And I really didn't wanna go here, but 95% of obese people are meat-eaters.Maybe thats because 95% of people are not vegitarian' pid='1273393' dateline='1224888192']Wow' date=' I am too retarted? Again, real mature. Maturity is evident in you. [/sar'] Animals and animals are NOT of the same species? Wow, stupidest statement anyone on YCM made. I would sig that, but I have no more sig room left. >_< Go ahead, put in in your sig.I don't care. Your wrong we're right. Animal is not a species-Zeroshot Go ahead sig it.I'll lol at you if you do.lrn2definition I get so many posts and points from this thread alone. I love YCM. Ah-hem! Anyways, ANIMALS IS A SPECIES. And if I am wrong, which I may be, humans eating animals is still considered cannibalism. These posts remind me of a debate I had with Draco, about being opinionated and biased. I can say 100% that everyone who supports me is a veggie. Everyone who does not is a meatie. That is bias at its worst.So your saying the only things that would support you are vegitables, while anything organic isnt gonna support you. Lol thats the only true thing you have said in this thread. Now say that you don't know what cannable really means, and you would be all set.' pid='1277087' dateline='1224964430']Eggs come from chickens So if eating animals is wrong' date=' why do you eat eggs?[/color'] Milk comes from cows. Cheese comes from cows. So, are you saying that by drinking milk, you are killing a cow? By eating eggs, you are killing the chicken? In this sense, you are wrong. Since when does cheese come from cows? Do you go and milk the cow, but get cheese from it instead?They could sheet out cheese sticks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantasy Dreamz Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 Survival of the Fittiest...enough say... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Best Male 2008 Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 Dark. You suck at debating. [/topic] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinwwe Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 ' pid='1269991' dateline='1224806129']Is eating/killing animals for food justified? Explain. Note: I didn't feel like writing too much for the first part of the thread' date=' I will explain mah opinion later... o_O[/quote'] We will be waiting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesusofChaos™ Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 To OP: Stop murdering plants then, we are all made of the same things, proteins, carbohydrates, fats etc. thus by eating anything by your reasoning we are commiting canniblism, K thx bye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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