Vampires

[Jake the Sage]

I have only read the book. It didn't catch my interest enough to make me want to see the movie so I'll never have that answer.

 

As for could they be any farther from the truth. I don't think its possible now. That's about as far as yuo can get. Sparkling in the sun. Say What!?

[ragnarok1945]

the book actually said about vampires sparkling in the sun? But they are mostly human, the sun is not supposed to effect them (or barely at all assuming it really does)

[Jake the Sage]

Yup. In a chapter Edward walked into the sun and it said he sparkled!

 

And you are correct. Sun doesn't really affect them much. Only the really, really, really, REALLY old ones are harmed by it [the sun].

[ragnarok1945]

I haven't read that link I saved yet, what kind of an effect is it supposed to have?

[Jake the Sage]

Um . . . If I remember correctly its not suposed to have any effect.

[ragnarok1945]

but you just said the really old ones are harmed by it, and I'm pretty sure Hollywood's portrait of them crumbling to dust is not the accurate one here

[Jake the Sage]

My last post was refering to what the site said.

 

The old ones was my bit of info.

[speznats]

death is part of life the only things humans and the undead (zombies,vampires,were wolves ect. )do is speed up the process and my intent is to stop them

[ragnarok1945]

death is supposed to mark the beginning of the afterlife, which is how the world's population saw vampires as (only recently has there been even the slightest look in the other direction).

 

Tell me speznats, do you believe after death you become part of the undead depending on the person?

[speznats]

nope that is a silly belief with human kind has created be cause it cant seem to except the fact that in death there is NOTHING death is like space its black and cold

you have to be infected for a person to join the undead

[ragnarok1945]

that's how some of my friends used to see vampires as: a form of infestation on the human race.

 

Me, I never really saw infection as part of the undead because you're still alive, unless you want to talk Resident Evil type infection

[speznats]

no no no people refer to them as the undead because the heart has stopped and there blood is being circulated by the contraction of skeletal mucles not they are not in fact dead

[ragnarok1945]

this is how hollywood shows vampires: they have no heart, it's something else that's keeping them alive and therefore can be classified as the undead, and thus also tried to show them as a disease.

 

If your heart has stopped but you're still going, that is abnormal. That's why the human mind will always think you're some kind of walking plague or something

[Arekku_Koro]

Stephenie meyer (author of twilight) on vampires:

 

Vampires are physically similar enough to their human origins to pass as humans under some circumstances (like cloudy days). There are many basic differences. They appear to have skin like ours, albeit very fair skin. The skin serves the same general purpose of protecting the body. However, the cells that make up their skin are not pliant like our cells, they are hard and reflective like crystal. A fluid similar to the venom in their mouths works as a lubricant between the cells, which makes movement possible (note: this fluid is very flammable). A fluid similar to the same venom lubricates their eyes so that their eyes can move easily in their sockets. (However, they don't produce tears because tears exist to protect the eye from damage, and nothing is going to be able to scratch a vampire's eye.) The lubricant-venom in the eyes and skin is not able to infect a human the way saliva-venom can. Similarly, throughout the vampire's body are many versions of venom-based fluids that retain a marked resemblance to the fluid that was replaced, and function in much the same way and toward the same purpose. Though there is no venom replacement that works precisely like blood, many of the functions of blood are carried on in some form. Also, the nervous system runs in a slightly different but heightened way. Some involuntary reactions, like breathing, continue (in that specific example because vampires use the scents in the air much more than we do, rather than out of a need for oxygen). Other involuntary reactions, like blinking, don't exist because there is no purpose for them. The normal reactions of arousal are still present in vampires, made possible by venom-related fluids that cause tissues to react similarly as they do to an influx of blood. Like with vampire skin—which looks similar to human skin and has the same basic function—fluids closely related to seminal fluids still exist in male vampires, which carry genetic information and are capable of bonding with a human ovum.

[speznats]

yep vamps got a need to feed

its not the fact that they are mindless monster just the fact that the need to feed on normal people to survive

[ragnarok1945]

Stephenie meyer (author of twilight) on vampires:

 

Vampires are physically similar enough to their human origins to pass as humans under some circumstances (like cloudy days). There are many basic differences. They appear to have skin like ours' date=' albeit very fair skin. The skin serves the same general purpose of protecting the body. However, the cells that make up their skin are not pliant like our cells, they are hard and reflective like crystal. A fluid similar to the venom in their mouths works as a lubricant between the cells, which makes movement possible (note: this fluid is very flammable). A fluid similar to the same venom lubricates their eyes so that their eyes can move easily in their sockets. (However, they don't produce tears because tears exist to protect the eye from damage, and nothing is going to be able to scratch a vampire's eye.) The lubricant-venom in the eyes and skin is not able to infect a human the way saliva-venom can. Similarly, throughout the vampire's body are many versions of venom-based fluids that retain a marked resemblance to the fluid that was replaced, and function in much the same way and toward the same purpose. Though there is no venom replacement that works precisely like blood, many of the functions of blood are carried on in some form. Also, the nervous system runs in a slightly different but heightened way. Some involuntary reactions, like breathing, continue (in that specific example because vampires use the scents in the air much more than we do, rather than out of a need for oxygen). Other involuntary reactions, like blinking, don't exist because there is no purpose for them. The normal reactions of arousal are still present in vampires, made possible by venom-related fluids that cause tissues to react similarly as they do to an influx of blood. Like with vampire skin—which looks similar to human skin and has the same basic function—fluids closely related to seminal fluids still exist in male vampires, which carry genetic information and are capable of bonding with a human ovum.

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not according to that, speznats. However, Arekku's point concentrates on the venom. We usually see venom as a bad thing like poison, so we see vampires are nothing but botches of poison coursing through them

[speznats]

that is a vision created by a author who really knows nothing on the subject

i have a strong bias to what i have decoded

like they say the proff is in the pudding

[ragnarok1945]

if the author has nothing on the subject he would have portrayed them as blood sucking monsters.

 

and everyone has biases to what they decode, I'm sure once I read that link I'll see vampires slightly differently than you do

[speznats]

meh.

[Marisa Kirisame-ze]

I should write a book on Vampires and title it "The Bloody Truth." =.="

 

Just so you people can have an understanding of the real thing. Not some fake story. This is getting annoying.

 

The Crimson One,

Miranda-chan

[ragnarok1945]

I should write a book on Vampires and title it "The Bloody Truth." =.="

 

Just so you people can have an understanding of the real thing. Not some fake story. This is getting annoying.

 

The Crimson One' date='

Miranda-chan

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then please get it published and on sale so we can buy and read it

[Marisa Kirisame-ze]

I'm 12, and its not one of my goals, so instead of reading that, listen when I explain the things I did.

 

The Crimson One,

Miranda-chan

[Azmodius]

I picture them like a pale skined human with fangs.

[ragnarok1945]

http://www.fvza.org/vampires.html Just use the link Speznats put up. It'll give you all the pics you need.

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