Azuh Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 [align=center]Decent card is decent Its searchable by a few cards (Sangan, Rai-Mei etc) and with the bunch of drawing cards available in todays metagame, its a not bad card. Also, its great tribute fodder. If it only had a bit more lolATK, this card could of had been useful. Or if its a Tuner. But lets not get into the discussion of Hanewata because its bad Discuss Watapon and its potential[/align] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanAtlus Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 You are right: it would make a great Tuner. But it's indeed too weak, but hey, it's a LV1 monster! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay.P. Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 I don´t care how weak it may be, it's a part of Yugi´s Deck.^^ And it's so sweet.^^ However, if played in the right deck, it ain't that bad after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Roxas Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 Situational draw card. Also, this card does have a Tuner Counterpart, but with a Kuriboh-like effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 I can think of no sensible reason to run this when Fiend's Sanctuary is available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iAmNateXero Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 ^Agreed if you only play Virtually, but $.30 compared to at least $30 is a simple choice to make. either way, i just wouldn't run it when there are many more special summonable monster available, my favorite being Gilasaurus. Situational yes, has its nasty side effects, yes, but over all, sets up a nice first turn experience. [spoiler=Dont know this card?] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 Such a bad card. It's hard to use it's effect and even then it's out classed by many cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~/Coolio Prime\~ Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 Would be fun as an insect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azuh Posted January 13, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 Such a bad card. It's hard to use it's effect and even then it's out classed by many cards. Outclassed? Yes, i agree on that Bad? No Destiny Draw, Trade-In, Allure of Darkness, Sangan, Rai-Mei, Last Will, Witch of the Black Forest, Hand Destruction, Card Destruction, All over draw cards They all say hi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 [quote='Azuh' pid='1593762' dateline='1231812275'] [quote='Flame Dragon' pid='1591808' dateline='1231793639'] Such a bad card. It's hard to use it's effect and even then it's out classed by many cards. [/quote] Outclassed? Yes, i agree on that Bad? No Destiny Draw, Trade-In, Allure of Darkness, Sangan, Rai-Mei, Last Will, Witch of the Black Forest, Hand Destruction, Card Destruction, All over draw cards They all say hi [/quote] That doesn't stop it from being a bad card - especially since it's a completely dead draw in your opening hand or during your Draw Phase. Also, Last Will? You'd search [i]this[/i] with Last Will? And Sangan? And Witch? Come now, you must have much better targets than this, and if you don't, your deck sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tabris Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 The only way anyone would ever main this is if X is dirt-poor in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 Such a bad card. It's hard to use it's effect and even then it's out classed by many cards. Outclassed? Yes' date=' i agree on that Bad? No Destiny Draw, Trade-In, Allure of Darkness, Sangan, Rai-Mei, Last Will, Witch of the Black Forest, Hand Destruction, Card Destruction, All over draw cards They all say hi[/quote']Allure and Sangan should be banned, Last Will and Witch are rightfully banned so those shouldn't even come up. Also, their are much better cards to add for the searches then this. Watapon is bad because all you get is a monster on the field that could net you are level 5 or 6 monster. Their are many other cards that can do this for you, with out such a hard to set up condition for their effects. If you don't get off Watapon's effect he is nothing but dead weight, all, or almost all, of the other card can have some use if you can't get their effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tabris Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 Allure and Sangan should be banned lolwut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 Such a bad card. It's hard to use it's effect and even then it's out classed by many cards. Outclassed? Yes' date=' i agree on that Bad? No Destiny Draw, Trade-In, Allure of Darkness, Sangan, Rai-Mei, Last Will, Witch of the Black Forest, Hand Destruction, Card Destruction, All over draw cards They all say hi[/quote'] That doesn't stop it from being a bad card - especially since it's a completely dead draw in your opening hand or during your Draw Phase. Also, Last Will? You'd search this with Last Will? And Sangan? And Witch? Come now, you must have much better targets than this, and if you don't, your deck sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tabris Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 For some reason, Crab doubleposted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 For some reason' date=' Crab doubleposted.[/quote'] Yeah, Firefox crashed on me when I first tried to post, and I thought it didn't get through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 Allure and Sangan should be banned lolwutIt provides to much speed to the game for the mere cost of, "run darks." It is understandable why this could stay at 3, but it is best at 0 for this reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tabris Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 Meh. It's just 2-for-2 hand replacement Spell that caters to the most hyped Attribute in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 Meh. It's just 2-for-2 hand replacement Spell that caters to the most hyped Attribute in the game.That is the problem. It's not hard to run darks and it makes this easy to splash into alot of decks. From their the speed of the games goes up a fair bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tabris Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 ... which shouldn't be a problem, as long as the win conditions aren't banworthy... ... and if they are, then it makes more sense to ban the win conditions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 ... which shouldn't be a problem' date=' as long as the win conditions aren't banworthy... ... and if they are, then it makes more sense to ban the win conditions.[/quote']The extra speed only increases the speed at which some decks can reach their win condition. It goes with out saying that when you have the pieces for your win condition odds are you're going to win. Allure greatly increases the rate at which one can reach their win condition, and if their win condition isn't a problem their should be no need to do anything to it. So that leaves allure ehich makes these win conditions easy to get to. For the other draw cards, D-Draw and Trade-In, you need to dedicate some of your deck to using them, this isn't the case for Allure. It goes without saying that if a win condition is banworthy, it should bby all means be banned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megaworm Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 Allure and Sangan should be banned lolwut:| Ban Allure? and Sangan? do you know how bad decks would end up being if simple searchers like that were banned? He must've had a bad experience with an Allure or Sangan to cause him to bring up such a farce. without simple searchers (And i mean SIMPLE, simple as hell like Sangan and Allure are) then everything might as well be beatdown and not tech, or even strategy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 Allure and Sangan should be banned lolwut:| Ban Allure? and Sangan? do you know how bad decks would end up being if simple searchers like that were banned? He must've had a bad experience with an Allure or Sangan to cause him to bring up such a farce. without simple searchers (And i mean SIMPLE' date=' simple as hell like Sangan and Allure are) then everything might as well be beatdown and not tech, or even strategy.[/quote']How do Sangan and Allure create strategy and make it so everything isn't beatdown? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 Guys, if you can't add any card you want to your hand at will, Gene-Warped Warwolf becomes the best card in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megaworm Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 Allure and Sangan should be banned lolwut:| Ban Allure? and Sangan? do you know how bad decks would end up being if simple searchers like that were banned? He must've had a bad experience with an Allure or Sangan to cause him to bring up such a farce. without simple searchers (And i mean SIMPLE' date=' simple as hell like Sangan and Allure are) then everything might as well be beatdown and not tech, or even strategy.[/quote']How do Sangan and Allure create strategy and make it so everything isn't beatdown?because Beatstick's ATK is higher than 1500. Dur.Allure only works for DARK monsters. And the only ones that ever get searched are Tech monsters or DAD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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