Navras Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 she's got a point... you know what they say, guns don't kill people, stupid people with a full chamber of bullets kill people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 she's got a point... you know what they say' date=' guns don't kill people, stupid people with a full chamber of bullets kill people.[/quote'] well even if you abolish guns you're not going to stop the killing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navras Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 that wasn't my point... but yes, i see what you meant. people have always killed people over the stupidest things, i say don't speed up hte process by giving them guns, let them work for that kill by getting a sword or a kinfe, like they used to do! these are not just random babbles, i really think this kind of stuff... sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodrun Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 she's got a point... you know what they say' date=' guns don't kill people, stupid people with a full chamber of bullets kill people.[/quote'] He, FM6 is a HE, get your genders straight, please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navras Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 yikes, sorry. and besides the point, i always call people i don't know shes, it's just easier for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 that wasn't my point... but yes' date=' i see what you meant. people have always killed people over the stupidest things, i say don't speed up hte process by giving them guns, let them work for that kill by getting a sword or a kinfe, like they used to do! these are not just random babbles, i really think this kind of stuff... sorry.[/quote'] the hate process does not require guns to be sped up or slowed down, there are plenty more circumstances that factor in (some aren't even within one's own control) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navras Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 yes i realize this, i'm just saying people were made to kill (this is only one of the things that we were made for). it's in the blood that we have, we are all blood thirsty beasts that just can't find a good enough way to kill some one, first it was rocks, then spears, then daggers, then swords, then guns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 yes i realize this' date=' i'm just saying people were made to kill (this is only one of the things that we were made for). it's in the blood that we have, we are all blood thirsty beasts that just can't find a good enough way to kill some one, first it was rocks, then spears, then daggers, then swords, then guns.[/quote'] yeah that's the reason why we had to create laws to prevent this, it was stated in The Mist also Though I'm not sure I agree with the saying "As a species we're fundamentally insane. Put more than 3 of us in the same room without any rules, we'd start thinking up ways to kill one another." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navras Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 Idk who said that, but they're right. unless you're the feel-good, nice to everything, never looks at what you did wrong, monk type of person, which no one is now adays accept for over in japan and china where it comes from *takes a big breath* then you would eventually start to think up ways to kill those three people, that or torture them. if you think about it, you usualy think of ways to kill ther person based on what they have with them, like if someones wearing high heels, you'll think to use one of those heels on thier head, it's as simple as that. look, alls that i'm sayiing is that we humans are too violent for our own good, the day that ragnarok comes, we're all going to suffer dearly for the pain we've caused one another and the sad thing is that it's going to be our own faults. how ironic, i say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 Idk who said that' date=' but they're right. unless you're the feel-good, nice to everything, never looks at what you did wrong, monk type of person, which no one is now adays accept for over in japan and china where it comes from *takes a big breath* then you would eventually start to think up ways to kill those three people, that or torture them. if you think about it, you usualy think of ways to kill ther person based on what they have with them, like if someones wearing high heels, you'll think to use one of those heels on thier head, it's as simple as that. look, alls that i'm sayiing is that we humans are too violent for our own good, the day that ragnarok comes, we're all going to suffer dearly for the pain we've caused one another and the sad thing is that it's going to be our own faults. how ironic, i say.[/quote'] yeah but then comes the process of who is willing to admit it's their own fault, and who will simply push their problems onto the shoulders of others (this applies to killing as well) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navras Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 exactly, we'll just end up killing each other and every one else around us becasue we won't look at the blinding truth that we caused it all. when it's all said and done, we humans will splatter the walls of the world with the bloddy paint from our heads using the same bullet we used on so many others... and THAT is why i don't think guns should be allowed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 exactly' date=' we'll just end up killing each other and every one else around us becasue we won't look at the blinding truth that we caused it all. when it's all said and done, we humans will splatter the walls of the world with the bloddy paint from our heads using the same bullet we used on so many others... and THAT is why i don't think guns should be allowed.[/quote'] even if you take away the guns, you'll just end up with people buying them illegally (just look back to the 18th amendment in prohibiting alcohol and look how that turned out) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navras Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 okay... took what i said the wrong way, but i get your point. yes, we will want to kill, we will want our PRECIOUS guns back, we'll want what ever we can get to kill who ever but you know something, at the end of the day, it's the same red and blue blood that runs through you body on your hands. i say, drop the knife and laugh at the blood on your hands. and besides all that, say we destroy all of the guns, then we'd go med-evil on each other and use swords and knives again... we are so pathertic us humans... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 long before medieval anyway, killing has been common practice since the ancient age (of course by now I'm sure we no longer operation under Survival of the Fittest as much, but still) After all, everyone thinks their POV is right and expects everyone else to agree with him/her Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navras Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 exactly, so what's the point in argueing?if we don't learn to side with each other soon, one of two things is going to happen:1. we kill each other, more than likely.2. we keep to our selves. we become solitary creatures that only keeps to thier own opinions until we find people like us and then we'll make a pack and then the world won't be seperated inot races, it'll be seperated into, "pacifist", "satanist", "Optimist", and so on. and besides all that,what's up with just americans having the right to guns? why not chnage this threads name to , "should people be aloud to have guns"? that's just a small form a racist if you ask me. NO ONE REPLY TO THAT LAST COMMENT, I WAS JUST STATING THE OBVIOUS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 you'll never get people to side with one another soon. No two POVs can be identical, and that is what causes dispute (and violence later on if it comes to that) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navras Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 so, as i've said many times before, we're all doomed to violence, killing, and insanity. enough said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 and I agree with you there, which means retained or taken away, killing will continue, and that is mainly why we need the guns (well for hunting too, but that's another matter) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navras Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 we no need the guns for hunting or even self defence... guns are just a faster way to kill somthing... as the Joker said on the Dark Knight, "Guns are too fast, you can't savor the little emotions when you use a gun. that's why i use a knife." if you want to kill some one, do it the old fashioned way. if you want to hunt, wait in a tree, jump down on top of a deer, and plunge down in it's neck with a knife or sword, easy as that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yasu Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 They shouldn't let kids to play with weapons =/btw, I got a new Victorinox ;D *Stabs the sofa* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 Golnax: you can just use the Saw traps too for that (though they aren't exactly designed for killing). Besides, as the American way goes, we never care about something being done right, as long as it's done fast (and therein comes the gun option since it's fast) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navras Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 To Ragnarok: i know... we3 americans are so f-ing lazy... we can't even do stuff the right way any more... To FM6:why you SOB! (JK, lolo)I got a sword the other day to be honest... but's it's just for show, it's not even sharp...Adults shouldn't even be aloud to have weapons, but we are a resouceful species, we make bombs out of soap and orange juice for gods sake! we'd eventually find a more simple and destructive way, even the kids, if they were all taken away... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 To Ragnarok: i know... we3 americans are so f-ing lazy... we can't even do stuff the right way any more... To FM6:why you SOB! (JK' date=' lolo)I got a sword the other day to be honest... but's it's just for show, it's not even sharp...Adults shouldn't even be aloud to have weapons, but we are a resouceful species, we make bombs out of soap and orange juice for gods sake! we'd eventually find a more simple and destructive way, even the kids, if they were all taken away...[/quote'] See Golnax, I wouldn't be surprised if eventually we reached a point where in hospitals doctors just use guns to kill their patients and say "That's the American way, we get the job done as fast as possible, no one cares whether it's done right or not. Besides, I DID save a life, the patient is rotting in hell right now." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMGAKITTY Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 Too lazy to read through 3 pages before posting my own obviously superior opinion. Determined people will kill themselves and others any damn way they please. Making something illegal isn't going to change that much at all. It may make it worse. Once a weapon is invented, it can never be un-invented. It's here to stay until a more deadly version comes out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 Too lazy to read through 3 pages before posting my own obviously superior opinion. Determined people will kill themselves and others any damn way they please. Making something illegal isn't going to change that much at all. It may make it worse. Once a weapon is invented' date=' it can never be un-invented. It's here to stay until a more deadly version comes out.[/quote'] that is why the saying "We are our own worst enemy" is forever here to stay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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