[DISC] Koa'ki Meiru Guardian

[iAmNateXero]

 

The controller of this card sends 1 "Iron Core of Koa'ki Meiru" from their hand to the Graveyard or reveals a Rock-Type from their hand during each of your End Phases. If you don't do either, this card is destroyed. When the effect of an effect monster is activated, you can tribute this card to negate the activation and destroy that monster.

 

Okay lets debate about this guy being better than Doom caliber Knight on a great day. Lets also debate about its Release Date and its Legality. Lets also talk about this guy's Timing. Is it as fast as Doom in the Damage Phase? Does that mean it can Crush Honest (before Damage Calculation *If anybody is that stupid to activate it before hand* or even during?)

 

[spoiler=Me discussing it live.]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHUnEIW5_Hg

 

GO GO GO!

[Guest Star]

If you ask me, I'd say that it IS better than Doomcaliber Knight, albeit being a little more situational. The fact that the Tribute is optional makes it much, much better. Then again, using both in a Deck (providing 6 1900 ATK Beatsticks that can negate Monster Effects), could prove to be very beneficial.

[Umbra]

Koa'Ki Meiru > Core Chimair

 

Card is alright.

[Exiro]

You need to be using Rock-Type monsters or -1 yourself every End Phase if you want to run this card instead of Skull Discovery Knight. All that just to have the same effect, but optional?

I really don't think that makes it better all of a sudden.

[Guest Star]

You need to be using Rock-Type monsters or -1 yourself every End Phase if you want to run this card instead of Skull Discovery Knight. All that just to have the same effect' date=' but optional?

I really don't think that makes it better all of a sudden.

[/quote']

 

-1? Do you know what Core Chimair's Steel Core does?

[Exiro]

You need to be using Rock-Type monsters or -1 yourself every End Phase if you want to run this card instead of Skull Discovery Knight. All that just to have the same effect' date=' but optional?

I really don't think that makes it better all of a sudden.

[/quote']

 

-1? Do you know what Core Chimair's Steel Core does?

 

During your Draw Phase' date=' if this card is in your Graveyard, +0 or +0[/quote']

 

(-1) + (+0) = -1.

 

Yep, a -1 every end phase.

[Guest Star]

You need to be using Rock-Type monsters or -1 yourself every End Phase if you want to run this card instead of Skull Discovery Knight. All that just to have the same effect' date=' but optional?

I really don't think that makes it better all of a sudden.

[/quote']

 

-1? Do you know what Core Chimair's Steel Core does?

 

During your Draw Phase' date=' if this card is in your Graveyard, +0 or +0[/quote']

 

(-1) + (+0) = -1.

 

Yep, a -1 every end phase.

 

CCSC returns itself to your hand during each Draw Phase, I believe. -1 for discarding it, then +1 for getting it back. That's a +0.

[Exiro]

You need to be using Rock-Type monsters or -1 yourself every End Phase if you want to run this card instead of Skull Discovery Knight. All that just to have the same effect' date=' but optional?

I really don't think that makes it better all of a sudden.

[/quote']

 

-1? Do you know what Core Chimair's Steel Core does?

 

During your Draw Phase' date=' if this card is in your Graveyard, +0 or +0[/quote']

 

(-1) + (+0) = -1.

 

Yep, a -1 every end phase.

 

CCSC returns itself to your hand during each Draw Phase, I believe. -1 for discarding it, then +1 for getting it back. That's a +0.

 

Oh yes, you're right. Because Steel Core adds itself to the hand and discards a card, it's a +0.

 

We have to redo the calculations.

 

(-1) + (+0) = -1.

 

Yep, a -1 every end phase.

[CrabHelmet]

Worse than Deathcalibre Knight. Unless you happen to run a Rock-based deck, it is virtually guaranteed to -1 you with its effect. That is in no way worth making the effect optional.

[Flame Dragon]

If you have a rock deck, this thing is great. Out side of their it is just about a never ending -1 and much worse then Deathcalibre.

[Exiro]

Out side of their it is just about a never ending -1

 

Actually, you can stop the -1 whenever you want, but the problem is that, to do that, you have to -1 yourself >_<

[Phantom Roxas]

Explain why the epic name "Core Chimair" got changed to something as stupid as that.

[GenzoTheHarpist]

Better than Doomcaliber assuming you have a rock in your hand.

[CrabHelmet]

Explain why the epic name "Core Chimair" got changed to something as stupid as that.

 

The Japanese name is just pronounced Koakimeiru; Koa'ki Meiru and Core Chimair are just alternate ways of rendering it in English.

 

Of course, this is still the worst possible time to remain strictly faithful to the source material. What, we can't have Deformer or Lightlords, but we can have this?

[GenzoTheHarpist]

Of course the difference is that "Core Chimair" has meaning in english but "Koa'ki Meiru" is completely meaningless. Also the apostrophe is random and has no basis in the original japanese.

[CrabHelmet]

Of course the difference is that "Core Chimair" has meaning in english but "Koa'ki Meiru" is completely meaningless.

 

This is true.

 

Also the apostrophe is random and has no basis in the original japanese.

 

It could just be there as a pronunciation guide.

[Phantom Roxas]

Explain why the epic name "Core Chimair" got changed to something as stupid as that.

 

The Japanese name is just pronounced Koakimeiru; Koa'ki Meiru and Core Chimair are just alternate ways of rendering it in English.

 

Of course' date=' this is still the worst possible time to remain strictly faithful to the source material. What, we can't have Deformer or Lightlords, but we can have this?

[/quote']

 

Well, if it's rendering the Japanese pronunciation, I guess that's fine. However, you have a point with Morphtronics.

[Flash Flyer - Sakura]

I have to say that the Koaki Meiru monsters aren't going to be usable a lot.

 

And it's not just the Guardian, we got about 6 more Koaki Meiru monsters (correct me if I'm wrong) and they pretty much all require you to send the Core to the Graveyard or they go to the Graveyard.

 

 

 

Pretty bad theme, I say

[Guest Star]

I have to say that the Koaki Meiru monsters aren't going to be usable a lot.

 

And it's not just the Guardian' date=' we got about 6 more Koaki Meiru monsters (correct me if I'm wrong) and they pretty much all require you to send the Core to the Graveyard or they go to the Graveyard.

 

Pretty bad theme, I say

[/quote']

 

I could be wrong, but don't they have a secondary option that allows you to reveal a card in your hand or something to that effect?

[GenzoTheHarpist]

I have to say that the Koaki Meiru monsters aren't going to be usable a lot.

 

And it's not just the Guardian' date=' we got about 6 more Koaki Meiru monsters (correct me if I'm wrong) and they pretty much all require you to send the Core to the Graveyard or they go to the Graveyard.

 

Pretty bad theme, I say

[/quote']

 

I could be wrong, but don't they have a secondary option that allows you to reveal a card in your hand or something to that effect?

They do. Of course it's only practical when you have multiple copies of the same monster to reveal.

 

About this card, I think anti-meta decks featuring this and cards like Legendary Jujitsu Master could work.

[Guest PikaPerson01]

You need to be using Rock-Type monsters or -1 yourself every End Phase if you want to run this card instead of Skull Discovery Knight. All that just to have the same effect' date=' but optional?

I really don't think that makes it better all of a sudden.

[/quote']

 

-1? Do you know what Core Chimair's Steel Core does?

 

When this card is in your Graveyard, you can add this card to your hand during your Draw Phase instead of conducting your normal draw. Also, by sending 1 "Koa'ki Meiru" monster from your hand to the Graveyard, you can add this card in your Graveyard to your hand.

 

It's a -1 every end phase.

[iAmNateXero]

You need to be using Rock-Type monsters or -1 yourself every End Phase if you want to run this card instead of Skull Discovery Knight. All that just to have the same effect' date=' but optional?

I really don't think that makes it better all of a sudden.

[/quote']

 

-1? Do you know what Core Chimair's Steel Core does?

 

During your Draw Phase' date=' if this card is in your Graveyard, +0 or +0[/quote']

 

(-1) + (+0) = -1.

 

Yep, a -1 every end phase.

 

CCSC returns itself to your hand during each Draw Phase, I believe. -1 for discarding it, then +1 for getting it back. That's a +0.

 

Oh yes, you're right. Because Steel Core adds itself to the hand and discards a card, it's a +0.

 

We have to redo the calculations.

 

(-1) + (+0) = -1.

 

Yep, a -1 every end phase.

 

Worse than Deathcalibre Knight. Unless you happen to run a Rock-based deck' date=' it is virtually guaranteed to -1 you with its effect. That is in no way worth making the effect optional.

[/quote']

 

Out side of their it is just about a never ending -1

 

Actually' date=' you can stop the -1 whenever you want, but the problem is that, to do that, you have to -1 yourself >_<

[/quote']

 

Who summons this guy outside of the turn that they know there going to use its effect?! o.O

[GenzoTheHarpist]

Personally if I didn't have a rock monster in my hand I wouldn't summon this guy.

[~ P O L A R I S ~]

Rocks actually are shaping up pretty nicely, between Rock-Stone, Pachy, Gigantes, Jujitsu, Megarock, this, Dark Gaia, stuff like that, I think they could start being pretty viable.