-Griffin Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 "Vanillas are good because of-"NO, they can SOMETIMES be half-runnable, with something like Symbols or Heritage or HotUD, but generally they are not good. Just saying >_> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aximil Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 "Vanillas are good because of-"NO' date=' they can SOMETIMES be half-runnable, with something like Symbols or Heritage or HotUD, but generally they are [u']not[/u] good. Just saying >_> Read the rest of my post after that before saying something like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Griffin Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 I did.No where near as good as the majority of effect monsters = not good. That's like me saying that mydec.dek is good, just not compared to other Decks. Everything is relative and describing them as good, but bad compared to anything else, is a clear error =/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aximil Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 BEWD, Gemenis, and Ojamas do well. They're Normal monsters. And their decks are good, just not as good as the insane aggresion of GBs, LS, and BWs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Griffin Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 We're talking about Normals in General, and Geminis =/= Normals and Ojama is only minimally useful due to some insane support.I'll give you that BEWD Decks have seen some semi-notable success, but as a whole, normals are fail in a can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parion555 Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 I already said that they aren't as good as effects,i should know i played Lightsworn for 1 and a half years and because of my great trust that they will bring Lumina at least at 2,i continue playing it.But you cannot say that Ojama OTK is not a good deck.And don't tell me i haven't played good meta decks,i have played against every possible meta deck,Twilight,Blackwing,Dark Synchro,Zombies,Zombiesworn,Gadgets,Gladiator Beast,TeleDAD.I think that's enough decks to say that i have played against good decks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aximil Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 I already said that they aren't as good as effects' date='i should know i played Lightsworn for 1 and a half years and because of my great trust that they will bring Lumina at least at 2,i continue playing it.But you cannot say that Ojama OTK is not a good deck.And don't tell me i haven't played good meta decks,i have played against every possible meta deck,Twilight,Blackwing,Dark Synchro,Zombies,Zombiesworn,Gadgets,Gladiator Beast,TeleDAD.I think that's enough decks to say that i have played against good decks.[/quote']Not talking about Ojama OTK. Talking about Ojunkamas and their insane Synchroing abilities. And even if you have played against those decks, it doesn't mean those were good decks. The way you talk and view cards make you seem like you have no meta experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byak Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 Ok sorry i admit vanilas aren't as powerful as effect Monster and JD doesn't require a big cost' date='actually [b']i play Lightsworn[/b],i play JD,and you can't say that vanilas don't have good pictures.And don't think i am unknown with the game,i have been playing the game for 4 and a half years. He's trollin'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parion555 Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 Sorry but i am not trolling,and i don't know if the decks i played against are good or not,and the only reason i haven't played in high ranked tournaments is not because i don't want to,it's because i live in Macedonia,where the biggest tournament you could find is the hobby league,nothing more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~/Coolio Prime\~ Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 Burnpsy Yes i admit there are cards like that' date='but they all require a cost.Judgment needs 4 different Lightsworns in the Grave and 1000 Life Points.[/quote']FOUR LIGHTSWORNS IN THE GRAVE IN A MILL HEAVY LIGHTSWORN BASED DECK?! ONE THOUSAND LIFEPOINTS?! Terribad, next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yugiohrulez! Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 Dude, I think the new cards already overpowered the old ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
werewolfjedi Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 Sorry but i am not trolling' date='and i don't know if the decks i played against are good or not,and the only reason i haven't played in high ranked tournaments is not because i don't want to,it's because i live in Macedonia,where the biggest tournament you could find is the hobby league,nothing more.[/quote'] stop trying to defend yourself now. these people will throw it back into your face. and on top of that, this is a meta level discussion area, normal monsters don't cut it in the meta in basicly every deck right know, so you can't win this argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parion555 Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 I'm not trying to win anything i'm just saying that there are a few decks that use Normal Monsters to their full potential that's all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Griffin Posted March 16, 2010 Report Share Posted March 16, 2010 -Insert CeD/Yata/Pot/rest of banlist and staples- New cards don't overpower all old ones, people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~/Coolio Prime\~ Posted March 16, 2010 Report Share Posted March 16, 2010 -Insert CeD/Yata/Pot/rest of banlist and staples- New cards don't overpower all old ones' date=' people.[/quote'] Yeah, except they're all banned. OP'd new cards have a much higher tendency to not be banned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycho Shocker Android Posted March 16, 2010 Report Share Posted March 16, 2010 I'd like to remember everyone still playing that konami hasn't printed sixth sense for the TCG yet. So is that considered an old card because OCG has it or when printed since it will be new to TCG it could be a new card that would be much more powerful than most of the cards printed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth_The_Legend Posted March 16, 2010 Report Share Posted March 16, 2010 Genex Controller is the best Vanilla monster not counting Shapesnatch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARKPLANT RISING Posted March 16, 2010 Report Share Posted March 16, 2010 BEWD... It was once god. Now it is horrid. Just 10 years. Do you know what this means...? 10 years from now, DAD, JD, Goyo, Stardust, Black Rose. Those will be littered across the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parion555 Posted March 16, 2010 Report Share Posted March 16, 2010 I guess so..but that will be obvious because who knows in the future Konami won't make the cards and even if it did there will probably be a new owner who will make much too powerfull cards maybe like DAD but a 100 times stronger.It might be something like this: This card cannot be Normal Summoned or Set.This card can only be Special Summoned when you have exactly 3 DARK Monsters in your Graveyard.You can remove 1 from play DARK Monster to destroy all cards on the Field and Draw 1 Card for each card destroyed by this effect. Who knows they might make one like that in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Flame Posted March 16, 2010 Report Share Posted March 16, 2010 I guess so..but that will be obvious because who knows in the future Konami won't make the cards and even if it did there will probably be a new owner who will make much too powerfull cards maybe like DAD but a 100 times stronger.It might be something like this: This card cannot be Normal Summoned or Set.This card can only be Special Summoned when you have exactly 3 DARK Monsters in your Graveyard.You can remove 1 from play DARK Monster to destroy all cards on the Field and Draw 1 Card for each card destroyed by this effect. Who knows they might make one like that in the future. What would that be, Super(CED)-DAD? I don't think it will ever get that bad. CED and BLS would come back long before that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted March 16, 2010 Report Share Posted March 16, 2010 Genex Controller is the best Vanilla monster not counting ShapesnatchDuah. Genex Synchro monsters are epic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parion555 Posted March 16, 2010 Report Share Posted March 16, 2010 I don't get one thing,almost all of the time you say normal monsters are awesome,but the second i say that some Normal Monsters are good,you jump on me like i ofended anyone. just don't get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Posted March 16, 2010 Report Share Posted March 16, 2010 Genex Controller is the best Vanilla monster not counting Shapesnatch Just because Genex a tuner and has insert random text here illions of supports. (instant fusion + controller is amazing) And Shapesnatch's limitless ways to get it out and do its super special awesome OTK. In terms of ATK/DEF I still like Luster Dragon and think its not horrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth_The_Legend Posted March 16, 2010 Report Share Posted March 16, 2010 Luster Dragon #2 is better. simply because 2>1 its only logical Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YamiMario Posted March 16, 2010 Report Share Posted March 16, 2010 BEWD... It was once god. Now it is horrid. You do realize that, being a card that Kaiba uses, it has tons and tons of support? Enough to make a dedicated deck. BEWD is still good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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