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How many 5th gen pokemon do you think there is going to be?  

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  1. 1. How many 5th gen pokemon do you think there is going to be?

    • under 50
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    • under 100
      24
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OK, it takes after the 360's gamerscore, but if you want to find a percentage, divide the score by 10. [spoiler=Achievement list]

 

Story: 21 Achievements, 300 G (30%)

 

Defeat the Stration Gym Leader (10 G)

Defeat Lenora (10 G)

Defeat Burgh (10 G)

Defeat Elesa (10 G)

Defeat Clay (10 G)

Defeat Skyla (10 G)

Defeat Brycen (20 G)

Defeat the Opelucid Gym Leader (20 G)

Navigate Victory Road (20 G)

Defeat the Elite Four (30 G)

Capture Reshiram/Zekrom (20 G)

Defeat N at the Castle (50 G)

Defeat Ghetsis (30 G)

 

Are you a Boy or a Girl? Look at yer crotch! (5 G)

Pick your Starter (5 G)

Battle N (5 G)

Find out N's secret (5 G)

Pass Alder's Challenge (5 G)

Battle N in Chargestone Cave (5 G)

Witness the resurrection of Zekrom/Reshiram (10 G)

Obtain the White/Black Orb (10 G)

 

Post Game Story: 5 Achievements, 100 G (10%)

 

Find all 6 Plasma Sages (30 G)

Receive a Gift from Ghetsis (10 G)

Defeat Gamefreak Morimoto (20 G)

Defeat Cynthia (20 G)

Defeat Alder and Enter the Hall of Fame (20 G)

 

Legendaries: 3 Achievements, 70 G (7%)

 

Capture or Defeat Kyruem (20 G)

Capture or Defeat Tornadus/Thundurus (20 G)

Capture or Defeat Cobalion, Virizion and Terrakion (30 G)

 

Rare Encounters: 10 Achievements, 115 G (11.5%)

 

Find a rare Pokemon in Shaking Grass (15 G)

Find a rare Pokemon by surfing in Shaking Water (15 G)

Find a rare Pokemon by fishing in Shaking Water (15 G)

Encounter a wild Double Battle (5 G)

Find a Sigilyph in the Desert (5 G)

Find a Tynamo in Chargestone Cave (5 G)

Find a Cryogonal in Twist Mountain (10 G)

Find an Item in Swirling Dust (5 G)

Find a Riolu in Challenger's Cave (10 G)

Faint 7 Audinos in a Row (25 G)

 

Training and Capturing: 11 Achievements, 155 G (15.5%)

 

Train a Pokemon to Lv 20 (5 G)

Train a Pokemon to Lv 40 (5 G)

Train a Pokemon to Lv 50 (5 G)

Train a Pokemon to Lv 70 (5 G)

Train a Pokemon to Lv 100 (20 G)

Catch your first Pokemon (5 G)

Catch 6 Pokemon (5 G)

Obtain Pokedex Entries for 300 Pokemon (50 G)

 

Obtain a Pokemon with an IV stat of 30 or Higher (10 G)

Obtain a Pokemon with an IV stat of 30 or Higher in 3 stats (40 G)

Catch a Pokemon with help from a Critical Capture (5 G)

 

Battles: 5 Achievements, 80 G (8%)

 

Battle a Tough trainer in the Sports Arenas (10 G)

Faint a Pokemon without using a damaging move (10 G)

Defeat either Rival after becoming Champion (10 G)

Defeat the Subway Master (20 G)

Defeat the Subway Master in 3 different lines (30 G)

 

Misc: 10 Achievements, 100 G (10%)

 

Visit every area in Unova (except Liberty Garden and Unity Tower) (20 G)

Collect every TM, except Snarl and those in the Battle Subway (20 G)

Trade Pokemon with an NPC (10 G)

Hatch an Egg (5 g)

Clock in 60 hours in one save file (15 g)

Reunite the Street Performers (5 G)

Find a wing on a Bridge (5 G)

Serve food to the greedy customers (5 G)

Find a Relic Gold in the Abyssal Ruins (5 G)

 

Online/With Friends: 5 Achievements, 80 G (8%)

 

Use the Entralink to provide a Pass Power to a friend (10 G)

Capture a Pokemon in the Dream World (10 G)

Defeat a Trainer in a 6 v 6 Wi-Fi battle (25 G)

Obtain a Master ball from a NPC, except Professor Juniper (25 G)

Use the Pokeshifter to transfer 12 Pokemon (10 G)

 

 

What's your score?

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[spoiler=ElectricKirby's Completion List] Story: 21 Achievements, 300 G (30%)

Defeat the Stration Gym Leader (10 G)

Defeat Lenora (10 G)

Defeat Burgh (10 G)

Defeat Elesa (10 G)

Defeat Clay (10 G)

Defeat Skyla (10 G)

Defeat Brycen (20 G)

Defeat the Opelucid Gym Leader (20 G)

Navigate Victory Road (20 G)

Defeat the Elite Four (30 G)

Capture Reshiram/Zekrom (20 G)

Defeat N at the Castle (50 G)

Defeat Ghetsis (30 G)

Are you a Boy or a Girl? Look at yer crotch! (5 G)

Pick your Starter (5 G)

Battle N (5 G)

Find out N's secret (5 G)

Pass Alder's Challenge (5 G)

Battle N in Chargestone Cave (5 G)

Witness the resurrection of Zekrom/Reshiram (10 G)

Obtain the White/Black Orb (10 G)

Post Game Story: 5 Achievements, 100 G (10%)

Find all 6 Plasma Sages (30 G)

Receive a Gift from Ghetsis (10 G)

Defeat Gamefreak Morimoto (20 G)

Defeat Cynthia (20 G)

Defeat Alder and Enter the Hall of Fame (20 G)

Legendaries: 3 Achievements, 70 G (7%)

Capture or Defeat Kyruem (20 G)

Capture or Defeat Tornadus/Thundurus (20 G)

Capture or Defeat Cobalion, Virizion and Terrakion (30 G)

Rare Encounters: 10 Achievements, 115 G (11.5%)

Find a rare Pokemon in Shaking Grass (15 G)

Find a rare Pokemon by surfing in Shaking Water (15 G)

Find a rare Pokemon by fishing in Shaking Water (15 G)

Encounter a wild Double Battle (5 G)

Find a Sigilyph in the Desert (5 G)

Find a Tynamo in Chargestone Cave (5 G)

Find a Cryogonal in Twist Mountain (10 G)

Find an Item in Swirling Dust (5 G)

Find a Riolu in Challenger's Cave (10 G)

Faint 7 Audinos in a Row (25 G)

Training and Capturing: 11 Achievements, 155 G (15.5%)

Train a Pokemon to Lv 20 (5 G)

Train a Pokemon to Lv 40 (5 G)

Train a Pokemon to Lv 50 (5 G)

Train a Pokemon to Lv 70 (5 G)

Train a Pokemon to Lv 100 (20 G)

Catch your first Pokemon (5 G)

Catch 6 Pokemon (5 G)

Obtain Pokedex Entries for 300 Pokemon (50 G)

Obtain a Pokemon with an IV stat of 30 or Higher (10 G)

Obtain a Pokemon with an IV stat of 30 or Higher in 3 stats (40 G)

Catch a Pokemon with help from a Critical Capture (5 G)

Battles: 5 Achievements, 80 G (8%)

Battle a Tough trainer in the Sports Arenas (10 G)

Faint a Pokemon without using a damaging move (10 G)

Defeat either Rival after becoming Champion (10 G)

Defeat the Subway Master (20 G)

Defeat the Subway Master in 3 different lines (30 G)

Misc: 10 Achievements, 100 G (10%)

Visit every area in Unova (except Liberty Garden and Unity Tower) (20 G)

Collect every TM, except Snarl and those in the Battle Subway (20 G)

Trade Pokemon with an NPC (10 G)

Hatch an Egg (5 g)

Clock in 60 hours in one save file (15 g)

Reunite the Street Performers (5 G)

Find a wing on a Bridge (5 G)

Serve food to the greedy customers (5 G)

Find a Relic Gold in the Abyssal Ruins (5 G)

Online/With Friends: 5 Achievements, 80 G (8%)

Use the Entralink to provide a Pass Power to a friend (10 G)

Capture a Pokemon in the Dream World (10 G)

Defeat a Trainer in a 6 v 6 Wi-Fi battle (25 G)

Obtain a Master ball from a NPC, except Professor Juniper (25 G)

Use the Pokeshifter to transfer 12 Pokemon (10 G)

 

 

 

TOTAL: 880/1000 G, or 88%

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[spoiler=ElectricKirby's Completion List] Story: 21 Achievements, 300 G (30%)

Defeat the Stration Gym Leader (10 G)

Defeat Lenora (10 G)

Defeat Burgh (10 G)

Defeat Elesa (10 G)

Defeat Clay (10 G)

Defeat Skyla (10 G)

Defeat Brycen (20 G)

Defeat the Opelucid Gym Leader (20 G)

Navigate Victory Road (20 G)

Defeat the Elite Four (30 G)

Capture Reshiram/Zekrom (20 G)

Defeat N at the Castle (50 G)

Defeat Ghetsis (30 G)

Are you a Boy or a Girl? Look at yer crotch! (5 G)

Pick your Starter (5 G)

Battle N (5 G)

Find out N's secret (5 G)

Pass Alder's Challenge (5 G)

Battle N in Chargestone Cave (5 G)

Witness the resurrection of Zekrom/Reshiram (10 G)

Obtain the White/Black Orb (10 G)

Post Game Story: 5 Achievements, 100 G (10%)

Find all 6 Plasma Sages (30 G)

Receive a Gift from Ghetsis (10 G)

Defeat Gamefreak Morimoto (20 G)

Defeat Cynthia (20 G)

Defeat Alder and Enter the Hall of Fame (20 G)

Legendaries: 3 Achievements, 70 G (7%)

Capture or Defeat Kyruem (20 G)

Capture or Defeat Tornadus/Thundurus (20 G)

Capture or Defeat Cobalion, Virizion and Terrakion (30 G)

Rare Encounters: 10 Achievements, 115 G (11.5%)

Find a rare Pokemon in Shaking Grass (15 G)

Find a rare Pokemon by surfing in Shaking Water (15 G)

Find a rare Pokemon by fishing in Shaking Water (15 G)

Encounter a wild Double Battle (5 G)

Find a Sigilyph in the Desert (5 G)

Find a Tynamo in Chargestone Cave (5 G)

Find a Cryogonal in Twist Mountain (10 G)

Find an Item in Swirling Dust (5 G)

Find a Riolu in Challenger's Cave (10 G)

Faint 7 Audinos in a Row (25 G)

Training and Capturing: 11 Achievements, 155 G (15.5%)

Train a Pokemon to Lv 20 (5 G)

Train a Pokemon to Lv 40 (5 G)

Train a Pokemon to Lv 50 (5 G)

Train a Pokemon to Lv 70 (5 G)

Train a Pokemon to Lv 100 (20 G)

Catch your first Pokemon (5 G)

Catch 6 Pokemon (5 G)

Obtain Pokedex Entries for 300 Pokemon (50 G)

Obtain a Pokemon with an IV stat of 30 or Higher (10 G)

Obtain a Pokemon with an IV stat of 30 or Higher in 3 stats (40 G)

Catch a Pokemon with help from a Critical Capture (5 G)

Battles: 5 Achievements, 80 G (8%)

Battle a Tough trainer in the Sports Arenas (10 G)

Faint a Pokemon without using a damaging move (10 G)

Defeat either Rival after becoming Champion (10 G)

Defeat the Subway Master (20 G)

Defeat the Subway Master in 3 different lines (30 G)

Misc: 10 Achievements, 100 G (10%)

Visit every area in Unova (except Liberty Garden and Unity Tower) (20 G)

Collect every TM, except Snarl and those in the Battle Subway (20 G)

Trade Pokemon with an NPC (10 G)

Hatch an Egg (5 g)

Clock in 60 hours in one save file (15 g)

Reunite the Street Performers (5 G)

Find a wing on a Bridge (5 G)

Serve food to the greedy customers (5 G)

Find a Relic Gold in the Abyssal Ruins (5 G)

Online/With Friends: 5 Achievements, 80 G (8%)

Use the Entralink to provide a Pass Power to a friend (10 G)

Capture a Pokemon in the Dream World (10 G)

Defeat a Trainer in a 6 v 6 Wi-Fi battle (25 G)

Obtain a Master ball from a NPC, except Professor Juniper (25 G)

Use the Pokeshifter to transfer 12 Pokemon (10 G)

 

 

 

TOTAL: 880/1000 G, or 88%

 

Hmm....Better than my 670 G.

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Zoroark

level: 41

Adamant nature

atk:112

def:60

sp.atk:111

sp.def:64

speed:99

 

move: night slash, sword dance, flamethrower, shadow ball

 

what move l should i give my zoroark? i know i am way far behind, all my pokemon level is about level 45, i had not played my pokemon black about 3 week.

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Zoroark

level: 41

Adamant nature

atk:112

def:60

sp.atk:111

sp.def:64

speed:99

 

move: night slash, sword dance, flamethrower, shadow ball

 

what move l should i give my zoroark? i know i am way far behind, all my pokemon level is about level 45, i had not played my pokemon black about 3 week.

 

Its already too late to tell you to change natures, so go for this set:

 

Night Slash, Hone Claws, U-Turn, Aerial Ace.

 

The problem with an Adamant Zoroark is that it must use Physical Moves to be most effective. Zoroark's physical movepool pre-Elite Four is atrocious. Even if you have beaten the Elite Four, there still isn't much on the Physical Side that can be used. A Modest or Timid nature is better since you can use the Special movepool, which is slightly better.

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Is there a reason Dragon Tail doesn't take your Speed into consideration?

Dragon Tail has low priority because of its shuffle capability. If it was a normal priority, it would be broken. Say any fast Pokemon that can learn it used it. Its Speed would let it attack first, damage the opposing Pokemon, and switch it out, not letting the opponent attack for the turn. Rinse and repeat.

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Hmm... not that anyone cares anymore, but...

[spoiler=...]

Story: 21 Achievements, 300 G (30%)

 

Defeat the Stration Gym Leader (10 G)

Defeat Lenora (10 G)

Defeat Burgh (10 G)

Defeat Elesa (10 G)

Defeat Clay (10 G)

Defeat Skyla (10 G)

Defeat Brycen (20 G)

Defeat the Opelucid Gym Leader (20 G)

Navigate Victory Road (20 G)

Defeat the Elite Four (30 G)

Capture Reshiram/Zekrom (20 G)

Defeat N at the Castle (50 G)

Defeat Ghetsis (30 G)

 

Are you a Boy or a Girl? Look at yer crotch! (5 G)

Pick your Starter (5 G)

Battle N (5 G)

Find out N's secret (5 G)

Pass Alder's Challenge (5 G)

Battle N in Chargestone Cave (5 G)

Witness the resurrection of Zekrom/Reshiram (10 G)

Obtain the White/Black Orb (10 G)

 

Post Game Story: 5 Achievements, 100 G (10%)

 

Find all 6 Plasma Sages (30 G)

Receive a Gift from Ghetsis (10 G)

Defeat Gamefreak Morimoto (20 G)

Defeat Cynthia (20 G)

Defeat Alder and Enter the Hall of Fame (20 G)

 

Legendaries: 3 Achievements, 70 G (7%)

 

Capture or Defeat Kyruem (20 G)

Capture or Defeat Tornadus/Thundurus (20 G)

Capture or Defeat Cobalion, Virizion and Terrakion (30 G)

 

Rare Encounters: 10 Achievements, 115 G (11.5%)

 

Find a rare Pokemon in Shaking Grass (15 G)

Find a rare Pokemon by surfing in Shaking Water (15 G)

Find a rare Pokemon by fishing in Shaking Water (15 G)

Encounter a wild Double Battle (5 G)

Find a Sigilyph in the Desert (5 G)

Find a Tynamo in Chargestone Cave (5 G)

Find a Cryogonal in Twist Mountain (10 G)

Find an Item in Swirling Dust (5 G)

Find a Riolu in Challenger's Cave (10 G)

Faint 7 Audinos in a Row (25 G)

 

Training and Capturing: 11 Achievements, 155 G (15.5%)

Train a Pokemon to Lv 20 (5 G)

Train a Pokemon to Lv 40 (5 G)

Train a Pokemon to Lv 50 (5 G)

Train a Pokemon to Lv 70 (5 G)

Train a Pokemon to Lv 100 (20 G)

Catch your first Pokemon (5 G)

Catch 6 Pokemon (5 G)

Obtain Pokedex Entries for 300 Pokemon (50 G)

 

Obtain a Pokemon with an IV stat of 30 or Higher (10 G)

Obtain a Pokemon with an IV stat of 30 or Higher in 3 stats (40 G)

Catch a Pokemon with help from a Critical Capture (5 G)

 

Battles: 5 Achievements, 80 G (8%)

 

Battle a Tough trainer in the Sports Arenas (10 G)

Faint a Pokemon without using a damaging move (10 G)

Defeat either Rival after becoming Champion (10 G)

Defeat the Subway Master (20 G)

Defeat the Subway Master in 3 different lines (30 G)

 

Misc: 10 Achievements, 100 G (10%)

 

Visit every area in Unova (except Liberty Garden and Unity Tower) (20 G)

Collect every TM, except Snarl and those in the Battle Subway (20 G)

Trade Pokemon with an NPC (10 G)

Hatch an Egg (5 g)

Clock in 60 hours in one save file (15 g)

Reunite the Street Performers (5 G)

Find a wing on a Bridge (5 G)

Serve food to the greedy customers (5 G)

Find a Relic Gold in the Abyssal Ruins (5 G)

 

Online/With Friends: 5 Achievements, 80 G (8%)

 

Use the Entralink to provide a Pass Power to a friend (10 G)

Capture a Pokemon in the Dream World (10 G)

Defeat a Trainer in a 6 v 6 Wi-Fi battle (25 G)

Obtain a Master ball from a NPC, except Professor Juniper (25 G)

Use the Pokeshifter to transfer 12 Pokemon (10 G)

 

 

I think my score is 915...

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Hmm... not that anyone cares anymore, but...

[spoiler=...]

Story: 21 Achievements, 300 G (30%)

 

Defeat the Stration Gym Leader (10 G)

Defeat Lenora (10 G)

Defeat Burgh (10 G)

Defeat Elesa (10 G)

Defeat Clay (10 G)

Defeat Skyla (10 G)

Defeat Brycen (20 G)

Defeat the Opelucid Gym Leader (20 G)

Navigate Victory Road (20 G)

Defeat the Elite Four (30 G)

Capture Reshiram/Zekrom (20 G)

Defeat N at the Castle (50 G)

Defeat Ghetsis (30 G)

 

Are you a Boy or a Girl? Look at yer crotch! (5 G)

Pick your Starter (5 G)

Battle N (5 G)

Find out N's secret (5 G)

Pass Alder's Challenge (5 G)

Battle N in Chargestone Cave (5 G)

Witness the resurrection of Zekrom/Reshiram (10 G)

Obtain the White/Black Orb (10 G)

 

Post Game Story: 5 Achievements, 100 G (10%)

 

Find all 6 Plasma Sages (30 G)

Receive a Gift from Ghetsis (10 G)

Defeat Gamefreak Morimoto (20 G)

Defeat Cynthia (20 G)

Defeat Alder and Enter the Hall of Fame (20 G)

 

Legendaries: 3 Achievements, 70 G (7%)

 

Capture or Defeat Kyruem (20 G)

Capture or Defeat Tornadus/Thundurus (20 G)

Capture or Defeat Cobalion, Virizion and Terrakion (30 G)

 

Rare Encounters: 10 Achievements, 115 G (11.5%)

 

Find a rare Pokemon in Shaking Grass (15 G)

Find a rare Pokemon by surfing in Shaking Water (15 G)

Find a rare Pokemon by fishing in Shaking Water (15 G)

Encounter a wild Double Battle (5 G)

Find a Sigilyph in the Desert (5 G)

Find a Tynamo in Chargestone Cave (5 G)

Find a Cryogonal in Twist Mountain (10 G)

Find an Item in Swirling Dust (5 G)

Find a Riolu in Challenger's Cave (10 G)

Faint 7 Audinos in a Row (25 G)

 

Training and Capturing: 11 Achievements, 155 G (15.5%)

Train a Pokemon to Lv 20 (5 G)

Train a Pokemon to Lv 40 (5 G)

Train a Pokemon to Lv 50 (5 G)

Train a Pokemon to Lv 70 (5 G)

Train a Pokemon to Lv 100 (20 G)

Catch your first Pokemon (5 G)

Catch 6 Pokemon (5 G)

Obtain Pokedex Entries for 300 Pokemon (50 G)

 

Obtain a Pokemon with an IV stat of 30 or Higher (10 G)

Obtain a Pokemon with an IV stat of 30 or Higher in 3 stats (40 G)

Catch a Pokemon with help from a Critical Capture (5 G)

 

Battles: 5 Achievements, 80 G (8%)

 

Battle a Tough trainer in the Sports Arenas (10 G)

Faint a Pokemon without using a damaging move (10 G)

Defeat either Rival after becoming Champion (10 G)

Defeat the Subway Master (20 G)

Defeat the Subway Master in 3 different lines (30 G)

 

Misc: 10 Achievements, 100 G (10%)

 

Visit every area in Unova (except Liberty Garden and Unity Tower) (20 G)

Collect every TM, except Snarl and those in the Battle Subway (20 G)

Trade Pokemon with an NPC (10 G)

Hatch an Egg (5 g)

Clock in 60 hours in one save file (15 g)

Reunite the Street Performers (5 G)

Find a wing on a Bridge (5 G)

Serve food to the greedy customers (5 G)

Find a Relic Gold in the Abyssal Ruins (5 G)

 

Online/With Friends: 5 Achievements, 80 G (8%)

 

Use the Entralink to provide a Pass Power to a friend (10 G)

Capture a Pokemon in the Dream World (10 G)

Defeat a Trainer in a 6 v 6 Wi-Fi battle (25 G)

Obtain a Master ball from a NPC, except Professor Juniper (25 G)

Use the Pokeshifter to transfer 12 Pokemon (10 G)

 

 

I think my score is 915...

 

Good work, I only have 710 G

 

I recently made some changes to the list, if anyone cares to see

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Is there a pokemon you need? If it's Generation 1-4 I might have it. Also, if anyone has a modest fully ev/iv'd hydreigon i'll give a legit shiny kyurem, golurk, or hydreigon.

 

actually I was waiting for someone to comment on my list and whether I should post the updated version. I can get the Hydregion for you, but you'll have to wait about a week or 2

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It'll take a while since I have to clone my IV Dittos and transfer them over, as well as get enough BP for the power items. Not to mention I have to import a Pokemon with Pokerus from my Platinum. THEN I can breed. Followed my the EV training which should be easy. Then I have to go look for a Wifi hotspot to trade you it. Roughly 2 weeks. Other Pokemon will take shorter as I will have the tools already.

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