Hey guys, let's discuss The Seal of Orichalcos

[byak]

 

This Spell Card is impervious to negation, destruction, and removal. Increase the ATK power of all your monsters by 500. You control a back row of monsters that cannot be attacked while a monster is in the front row. Send this card from your hand to the Graveyard to negate and destroy any card. The soul of whichever Duelist loses this Duel is forfeit to the winner.

 

Cool OCG, Konami.

 

Would this be balanced if it's last two effects were gone?

lolEarthbounds

lolMalefics

lollasteffect

 

Anyways, discuss.

[Expelsword]

This is the strongest card in the game, its last effect goes MUCH farther than Yu-Jo Friendship...

 

But I think this card would be SOOOO cool without the last effects, almost all decks would main it

[Red_Gengar]

Cool OCG' date=' [b']UPPER DECK[/b].

 

Fix'd.

 

But anyway, this card is too ridiculous to be made.

[The Sacred Ninja]

I still prefer the Yu-Jo Friendship FTK

[byak]

I still prefer the Yu-Jo Friendship FTK

 

:D

 

He sides in washcloth.

[Expelsword]

Oh, before anyone says it

 

You cannot play a new field spell, because that would *remove* the Seal from the field (vague OCG for the loophole!)

[Darkerai]

What's this pic from?

 

BTW super special solemns ftw!!!

[Guest Delinquent Girl NiAtSoFi]

let your opponent fill up their Monster Zones, use Asura Priest/ Wild Edge beefed up with equips, attack, awesome.

[Expelsword]

Oh, more vague OCG:

 

If you combine this card with Victory Dragon, your opponent will get to keep their soul because you never win the duel, you only win the overall match.

 

THEREFORE:

When this card is released, Victory Dragon will be maindecked.

[jayjack]

The soul of whichever Duelist loses this Duel is forfeit to the winner.

LOL

I beat my gf in a children's card game. Now she becomes my slave forever ^^

[Skarlet]

Somehow, I think claiming someone's soul using this card would probably lead to getting kicked in the nuts if you did anymore then make a joke or 2.

[TheTurtleOnceCalledGod]

Sadly, the only true copies of this belong to certain judges that worked for Upper Deck. Also, why would you want your opponent's soul? Seriously, what would you do with a 20 page long post explaining souls removed due to limitations of thread and because souls collapse upon learning the truth without coming up with it oneself?

This card would be banned if it were released, and even then it would have to be nerfed (remove the soul part, the rest would only make malefics and earthbounds more playable, and add a spell speed 4 mechanic to the game).

Also, would Crystal Beasts work differently with this card? (you know I had to, you know I did)

[-Berserker-]

I want this to be released in Duelist Pack Rafael...

[Skarlet]

Would Crystal Beasts work differently? No. They're treated as continuous spells. Other cards that are worded differently, that just say 'equip this card' like Iron Chain (I think it's coil) might.

[White Void]

Earthbounds would become top tier if this was released with everything but the last effect since you no longer have to protect your field or worry about your field. Also Earthbound Revival would allow you to re-use your extra "Orichalos Solemn" and then when you consider Earthbound's have their own Solemn in a sense in Earthbound Wave and still have access to Solemn itself and well...they become able to negate basically any threat while continuing to quickly pound away at your opponent.

[Skarlet]

^Orichalcos Earthbound Counter Fairies?

[Toffee.]

Obveiously the last line of text is just for lulz and show accuracy, and never actually happens.

 

But hey, what do I know? This is YCM-Kun/this topic is powered by the interwebz.

[Guest Delinquent Girl NiAtSoFi]

Ojama Kings, Knights, Trio, and Ground Collapses against this.

[White Void]

^Orichalcos Earthbound Counter Fairies?

 

Most. beautiful. idea. ever.

[Bringerofcake]

Oh' date=' before anyone says it

 

You cannot play a new field spell, because that would *remove* the Seal from the field (vague OCG for the loophole!)

[/quote']

 

Ah, but that works both ways. See here:

This Spell Card is impervious to negation' date=' destruction, and removal.

[/quote']

 

and...

 

As long as this card remains face-up on the field' date=' all Spell Cards cannot be activated. [b']The effects of all face-up Spell Cards are also negated.[/b]

 

Therefore, the first bolded effect is negated, therefore the entire effect is negated, therefore the entire thing is destructible.

 

Vague OCG for the loophole.

[Eibon1307]

Cool OCG' date=' [b']UPPER DECK[/b].

 

Fix'd.

 

But anyway, this card is too ridiculous to be made.

 

um.... ok... you should know that upper deck is no longer affiliated with the YuGiOh TCG/OCG anymore. Konami Sued them for distributing Fake cards such as Five God Dragon, Exodia The Unchained, F.G.D - Dragon Master Knight Rider, and so on. So now any old cards, as well as new cards are considered Konami Products. And, The Seal of Orichalcos Card was originally going to be made for the game and so they made like 20 cards as promos for the company owners and then when they realized that there were so many errors with the card they didn't. They realized that it would make problems for players and so on. They considered just releasing it as a Promo Bonus for Shonen Jump and for a Video game and make it illegal like the Xbox Ra card. But once again realized that it would become a problem so they didn't make it. Like many have stated. It has so many flaws that it was just a show thing only.

 

For info on the Lawsuit between Konami and Upperdeck read this:

 

Prior to December 2008, Konami's trading cards were distributed in territories outside of Asia by The Upper Deck Company. In December 2008, Konami filed a lawsuit against Upper Deck alleging that it had distributed unauthentic Yu-Gi-Oh! TCG cards made without Konami's authorization.[2] Upper Deck also sued Konami alleging breach of contract and slander. A few months later, a federal court in Los Angeles issued an injunction preventing Upper Deck from acting as the authorized distributor and requiring it to remove the Yu-Gi-Oh! TCG from Upper Deck's website.[3] In December 2009, the court decided that Upper Deck was liable for counterfeiting Yu-Gi-Oh! TCG cards, and it dismissed Upper Deck's countersuit against Konami.[4][5][6] Konami currently serves as the manufacturer and distributor of the Yu-Gi-Oh! TCG; it runs Regional and National tournaments and continues to release new Yu-Gi-Oh! TCG card products.

[byak]

Cool OCG' date=' [b']UPPER DECK[/b].

 

Fix'd.

 

But anyway, this card is too ridiculous to be made.

 

um.... ok... you should know that upper deck is no longer affiliated with the YuGiOh TCG/OCG anymore. Konami Sued them for distributing Fake cards such as Five God Dragon, Exodia The Unchained, F.G.D - Dragon Master Knight Rider, and so on. So now any old cards, as well as new cards are considered Konami Products. And, The Seal of Orichalcos Card was originally going to be made for the game and so they made like 20 cards as promos for the company owners and then when they realized that there were so many errors with the card they didn't. They realized that it would make problems for players and so on. They considered just releasing it as a Promo Bonus for Shonen Jump and for a Video game and make it illegal like the Xbox Ra card. But once again realized that it would become a problem so they didn't make it. Like many have stated. It has so many flaws that it was just a show thing only.

 

For info on the Lawsuit between Konami and Upperdeck read this:

 

Prior to December 2008, Konami's trading cards were distributed in territories outside of Asia by The Upper Deck Company. In December 2008, Konami filed a lawsuit against Upper Deck alleging that it had distributed unauthentic Yu-Gi-Oh! TCG cards made without Konami's authorization.[2] Upper Deck also sued Konami alleging breach of contract and slander. A few months later, a federal court in Los Angeles issued an injunction preventing Upper Deck from acting as the authorized distributor and requiring it to remove the Yu-Gi-Oh! TCG from Upper Deck's website.[3] In December 2009, the court decided that Upper Deck was liable for counterfeiting Yu-Gi-Oh! TCG cards, and it dismissed Upper Deck's countersuit against Konami.[4][5][6] Konami currently serves as the manufacturer and distributor of the Yu-Gi-Oh! TCG; it runs Regional and National tournaments and continues to release new Yu-Gi-Oh! TCG card products.

 

Upper Deck was in charge when this was created, and they made the card.

[Expelsword]

Oh' date=' before anyone says it

 

You cannot play a new field spell, because that would *remove* the Seal from the field (vague OCG for the loophole!)

[/quote']

 

Ah, but that works both ways. See here:

This Spell Card is impervious to negation' date=' destruction, and removal.

[/quote']

 

and...

 

As long as this card remains face-up on the field' date=' all Spell Cards cannot be activated. [b']The effects of all face-up Spell Cards are also negated.[/b]

 

Therefore, the first bolded effect is negated, therefore the entire effect is negated, therefore the entire thing is destructible.

 

Vague OCG for the loophole.

 

You cannot negate an effect which negates negation... THAT'S MADNESS!

It's sort of like attacking a facedown monster that can't be destroyed by battle, even though it's facedown (or negated) the effect happens anyway, allowing Impugnity to the Orichalcos player

 

"Legend of Heart" is the only card which can negate it, so I'm curious how they'd word that

 

"Destroy all 'The Seal of Orichalcos' in the duel, ignoring its effect"?

[Toffee.]

 

This = counter

[Expelsword]

 

This = counter

 

"Under ANY circumstances can the activation and effect of this card be negated by any other card"

 

Spell Speed: -1 any card can negate it.