What Konami thinks

[Bringerofcake]

In the Shonen Jump topic, there's a link to a Facebook discussion group, in which the people are discussing the new bannings for SA, EU, ets. However, there is also this interesting tidbit:

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- Players aren't supposed to be BUYING individual cards (have you ever noticed that Tournament Organizers, specially in bigger events, usually DON'T allow selling?).
- Players are supposed to obtain their cards either by buying products and/or trading them.
- Tournament Policies aren't about competitive decks or what is used in another area.
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Maybe it's just the opinion of the judge who wrote it, but it could easily be the opinion of Konami of America (or whatever the subsidiary here is called), and this is some valuable insight into the eyes of Konami.

Obviously I hope for the latter. Discuss these remarks, whether Konami should endorse the singles market, and anything else about them.

[ＴＨＥ ＧＯＤ ＯＦ ＯＢＥＬＩＳＫ]

We're not supposed to buy individual cards?
lololo

[Catterjune]

I wouldn't be surprised if Konami was against the selling of singles. After all, they're a business first and they'd logically be more in favor of the thing that makes them the most money.

[Zkaiser]

This is pretty much like selling used games. I'm sure Konami doesn't endorse the sales of single cards. But hot damn, if I had to trade and buy merch to get EVERYTHING I wanted I would resort to theft.

[Toffee.]

So..... everyone is supposed to run highlander Anime-Yusei.dek

*explodes*

[Azuh]

Well, maybe if Secret Rares didn't exists we wouldn't have this problem >_>

[Zkaiser]

I don't understand why they make bad secret rares.

[Time Psyduck]

If Konami was in favour of selling singles, they'd be doing it themselves.

This seems obvious, thinking about it - it's a [i]trading[/i] card game, so you're supposed to trade for the ones you want, not just buy them. That's why the boosters are random. Most people may not be able to get everything they want, and may have to resort to buying them, but that's not Konami's problem. Besides, no-one said you actually have to buy packs and trade to get what you want. That's just what Konami planned as their retail strategy when they [s]copied the CCGs that were already around[/s] started making the game.

[Luis2]

Their gonna have to attack ebay. That's where a lot of singles are. Isn't ebay a lot of business's worst enemy?

[Jazin Kay]

[b]EVERY SINGLE CARD YOU HAVE[/b] that came from a pack of [b]ANY SORT[/b] funneled money to Konami somehow. Konami has [b]NO GROUND[/b] to say I can't sell my cards. I bought their packs/tins/decks by somehow giving them my hard-earned money from my hard-earned wallet. It's mine to do with whatever I want, be it microwave, washing machine, blowtorch, horny rabbit, or Grand Canyon.

Hey Konami, Wizards of the Coast and Nintendo don't care if I sell cards. Why do you want to cry at me because I'm making dimes compared to your sacks of money to afford a ride home, or to get food when money is tight? I need that ride, and I need this food. Go suck a bag of shark dicks, you penny-hounding, country-stiffling burning barn of bleeding heart blowhards.

[TheTurtleOnceCalledGod]

They could always print "Not labeled for individual sale" or something with enhancing their copyright to prevent legal sales of cards. Then the game dies altogether

[Toffee.]

QUICK! EVERYONE! BUY 3 COPIES OF THE MACHINA.DEK!
......
Funny how that would be legal, in turns of BKSS

[Sephiroth_The_Legend]

if single card selling was illegalised. they'd have to make the better cards easier to get.

the game would be really bad if buying singles was forbidden...

[HaouJudai]

[quote name='Jazin Kay' timestamp='1289205409' post='4771206']
[b]EVERY SINGLE CARD YOU HAVE[/b] that came from a pack of [b]ANY SORT[/b] funneled money to Konami somehow. Konami has [b]NO GROUND[/b] to say I can't sell my cards. I bought their packs/tins/decks by somehow giving them my hard-earned money from my hard-earned wallet. It's mine to do with whatever I want, be it microwave, washing machine, blowtorch, horny rabbit, or Grand Canyon.

Hey Konami, Wizards of the Coast and Nintendo don't care if I sell cards. Why do you want to cry at me because I'm making dimes compared to your sacks of money to afford a ride home, or to get food when money is tight? I need that ride, and I need this food. Go suck a bag of shark dicks, you penny-hounding, country-stiffling burning barn of bleeding heart blowhards.
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I'm so glad I logged onto here today. This is one of the best posts I've ever read on any yugioh forum anywhere. I couldn't agree more sir. This is going in my signature block. Epic.

[Time Psyduck]

Konami isn't trying to stop anyone buying, selling, giving away, burning, tearing or doing whatever they want to do with or to the cards they bought. All they've done is say that they intended you to obtain the cards you need but haven't got in packs by exchanging other cards, rather than money.No-one said you can't by cards, they just said buying them isn't in the spirit they intend for the game.

They've also banned cards in places where you cannot obtain them except by buying them as singles, because those cards haven't been released there, and so officially don't exist. Konami isn't about to go and ban individual sales (or if they are they haven't given any convincing evidence of that fact), but they're not going to encourage it, and allowing cards in places where there is no way to get them without importing them will do that, especially if one of those cards was key to a top-tier deck. They don't have to endorse selling singles to let it happen, but after all, they already have their money, and allowing a second-hand market helps bring and keep people into the game, either by making cards more readily available or by letting someone try it out whilst still being able to recover some of the cost if they don't like it.

I would imagine at least part of the reason judges don't allow sales at tournaments is because there are tighter rules. With video games, you can take your old games into a store and trade them in without questions, but if you sell them for cash they'll ask for ID, and there's an age restriction. It also prevents problems with people, or parents, feeling ripped off, more than with a trade, in which you're at least swapping one piece of cardboard for another. Besides, it's Konami's tournament, they can impose whatever arbitrary rules they want, and they won't affect anything else.

[BDKMRV]

They want us to spend more on packs and less on individuals.

[HaouJudai]

[quote name='Time Psyduck' timestamp='1289231764' post='4771470']
Konami isn't trying to stop anyone buying, selling, giving away, burning, tearing or doing whatever they want to do with or to the cards they bought. All they've done is say that they intended you to obtain the cards you need but haven't got in packs by exchanging other cards, rather than money.No-one said you can't by cards, they just said buying them isn't in the spirit they intend for the game.

They've also banned cards in places where you cannot obtain them except by buying them as singles, because those cards haven't been released there, and so officially don't exist. Konami isn't about to go and ban individual sales (or if they are they haven't given any convincing evidence of that fact), but they're not going to encourage it, and allowing cards in places where there is no way to get them without importing them will do that, especially if one of those cards was key to a top-tier deck. They don't have to endorse selling singles to let it happen, but after all, they already have their money, and allowing a second-hand market helps bring and keep people into the game, either by making cards more readily available or by letting someone try it out whilst still being able to recover some of the cost if they don't like it.

[b]I would imagine at least part of the reason judges don't allow sales at tournaments is because there are tighter rules.[/b] With video games, you can take your old games into a store and trade them in without questions, but if you sell them for cash they'll ask for ID, and there's an age restriction. It also prevents problems with people, or parents, feeling ripped off, more than with a trade, in which you're at least swapping one piece of cardboard for another. Besides, it's Konami's tournament, they can impose whatever arbitrary rules they want, and they won't affect anything else.
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The vendors pay a fee to be able to sell at events. If individuals are selling then they are undercutting the vendors who paid to be able to sell singles.