Kuri Posted November 12, 2010 Report Share Posted November 12, 2010 http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Total_Defense_Shogun Discuss why cards can't be unique like this and what not... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted November 12, 2010 Report Share Posted November 12, 2010 One of the few cards that can attack into Mirror Force and not be hurt. Unfortunately, it's ATK is pathetic and its effect is meh. Unique, but not worthwhile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted November 12, 2010 Report Share Posted November 12, 2010 Solidarity tech? I don't know. You could make a Total Defense deck pretty easily, but the question becomes at what point does having him in defense mode become pointless? It gets around a few card effects, but... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Crouton Posted November 12, 2010 Report Share Posted November 12, 2010 Imagine...Total Bushi Shogun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnpsy Posted November 12, 2010 Report Share Posted November 12, 2010 The card would have been fine if it had 50 less ATK and changed positions when Special Summoned as well. Seeing as neither of these are true, card sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted November 12, 2010 Report Share Posted November 12, 2010 [quote name='burnpsy' timestamp='1289535604' post='4778458'] The card would have been fine if it had 50 less ATK and changed positions when Special Summoned as well. Seeing as neither of these are true, card sucks. [/quote] That actually doesn't afford it much. Monster Reborn is the most common revival card, and you could just choose to put it in Defense Position. If you're using Call, you can Summon it on your opponent's turn and then change it to Defense Position. What else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuri Posted November 12, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2010 I use this card with ATK and DEF + The Reliable Guardian + DEF+ equip card. Makes better use of the card's high DEF somewhat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-Rrey Posted November 12, 2010 Report Share Posted November 12, 2010 [quote name='evilfusion' timestamp='1289535309' post='4778448'] One of the few cards that can attack into Mirror Force and not be hurt. Unfortunately, it's ATK is pathetic and its effect is meh. Unique, but not worthwhile. [/quote] He stole my thoughts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnpsy Posted November 12, 2010 Report Share Posted November 12, 2010 [quote name='slayer_supreme' timestamp='1289535991' post='4778461'] That actually doesn't afford it much. Monster Reborn is the most common revival card, and you could just choose to put it in Defense Position. If you're using Call, you can Summon it on your opponent's turn and then change it to Defense Position. What else? [/quote] Paired with dropping the ATK by 50 (which I mentioned in the same sentence), Mystic Tomato -> This in Attack Position, but switches to Defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frozen Judgment Posted November 12, 2010 Report Share Posted November 12, 2010 Shield and sword? O.o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted November 12, 2010 Report Share Posted November 12, 2010 If it were Tomato-able, you could always just use Tomatoes until you weren't going to get attacked and then switch it to defense on your turn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnpsy Posted November 12, 2010 Report Share Posted November 12, 2010 [quote name='slayer_supreme' timestamp='1289539554' post='4778533'] If it were Tomato-able, you could always just use Tomatoes until you weren't going to get attacked and then switch it to defense on your turn. [/quote] That would defeat the purpose, which would be to put up a wall during your opponent's turn which they don't expect when it's too late to use removal on it while still getting an attack through. Also, you take more damage if you aren't able to go straight to this in DEF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARKPLANT RISING Posted November 12, 2010 Report Share Posted November 12, 2010 [quote name='slayer_supreme' timestamp='1289535991' post='4778461'] That actually doesn't afford it much. Monster Reborn is the most common revival card, and you could just choose to put it in Defense Position. If you're using Call, you can Summon it on your opponent's turn and then change it to Defense Position. What else? [/quote] I don't see a reason to revive Total Defense Shogun with those... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JadenxAtemYAOI Posted November 13, 2010 Report Share Posted November 13, 2010 *jesus facepalm at myself* This card would be sort of good in my burn deck. Eleminate what I can and stall my opponent at the same time. My decks may rely on luck but that's good enough for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Berserker- Posted November 13, 2010 Report Share Posted November 13, 2010 Chaos-End Master... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas★Zero Posted November 13, 2010 Report Share Posted November 13, 2010 When looking this card their is some possible use's for it e.g. Sword and Sheild which can make Shogun stronger while making most monsters weaker (since more cards have ATK over DEF status) Either that or use him in a Equip based deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Cakey Posted November 14, 2010 Report Share Posted November 14, 2010 According to the anime, this card auto-kills Blue-Eyes Ultimate Dragon. Those were the days... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted November 14, 2010 Report Share Posted November 14, 2010 [quote name='Dr. Cakey' timestamp='1289752926' post='4784133'] According to the anime, this card auto-kills Blue-Eyes Ultimate Dragon. Those were the days... [/quote] Wasn't that because of its Deck Master ability? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Cakey Posted November 14, 2010 Report Share Posted November 14, 2010 [quote name='slayer_supreme' timestamp='1289753471' post='4784157'] Wasn't that because of its Deck Master ability? [/quote] Well, yes. I believe it Sakuretsu Armor'd all direct attacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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