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Personally, I think no. With all the revival support the game has received, this card would replace the card investment and just give too much advantage to one player. Stardust would be close to an advantage generator, and plenty of archetypes have received archetype specific revival, like Amazoness Willpower, Wattkeeper, low levels have Limit Reverse, Monster Reborn and Call of the Haunted are both around, Zombies have Mezuki, Plaguespreader, and 3 Book of Life, plus the Zombie Master, etc engine.

Synchros brought about the "low level swarm" effects, and this card would just be too powerful. Rememeber this in Quickdraw builds with Tuningware and De-Synchro? It's just too evil. Throw in Junk Destroyer and you have a match made in hell.
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It's the "no" you gave after my statement.

If Card of Safe Return was legal, there's multiple ways to abuse it. Zombie decks would love this card back. The Tuningware/Magical Explosion OTK is dead due to Explosion's limit, but that doesn't stop the deck from being capable of abusing it. We're not discussing merely one use for the card, competitive or not. I'm stating why the card is still broken. You didn't. You just said it'd be the best format if allowed at 3, then contradicted my ENTIRE post and gave ONE use for it.
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[quote name='slayer_supreme' timestamp='1292355262' post='4852292']
Fishborg didn't exist when this card was banned.

It can be abused in Darkworld, Zombies, Fish, Tuningware, and pretty much any deck with a lot of revival. Basically this card turns all revival cards into +1's, which they should not be. Especially in a Meta where people Special Summon a ton of monsters.
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[quote name='evilfusion' timestamp='1292355212' post='4852290']
It's the "no" you gave after my statement.

If Card of Safe Return was legal, there's multiple ways to abuse it. Zombie decks would love this card back. The Tuningware/Magical Explosion OTK is dead due to Explosion's limit, but that doesn't stop the deck from being capable of abusing it. We're not discussing merely one use for the card, competitive or not. I'm stating why the card is still broken. You didn't. You just said it'd be the best format if allowed at 3, then contradicted my ENTIRE post and gave ONE use for it.
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The "no" was because all of those uses are irrelevant. <_<

There would be only one use for it if it was around, because only one deck would matter. Nobody would care about Zombies or other terrible Tier 2 decks. It's like saying "If Substitoad was back Frognarchs would be more consistent" or "If Rescue Cat was back Synchro Cat would be better"; those statements are technically true but nobody would care. :mellow:

I happen to like ftk formats. :mellow:

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[quote name='Dark Marquis Belial' timestamp='1292356134' post='4852325']
We have a lot of Graveyard-revival cards nowadays so i don't expect this to come back (even though i would like this to be at 1 for a lone format just for the lulz)!
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Konami had actually did this.
Early 2009 is was @3
The next list had it @2, and then @1, and then finally @0, which is where we are today.
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[quote name='Ser Warjacksworth' timestamp='1292360021' post='4852478']
The "no" was because all of those uses are irrelevant. <_<

There would be only one use for it if it was around, because only one deck would matter. Nobody would care about Zombies or other terrible Tier 2 decks. It's like saying "If Substitoad was back Frognarchs would be more consistent" or "If Rescue Cat was back Synchro Cat would be better"; those statements are technically true but nobody would care. :mellow:

I happen to like ftk formats. :mellow:
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That's your opinion. And I will note your first post did not mention specific uses for Card of Safe Return. Mine did, and your choice of response was to give a blanket contradiction to TRUE statements and didn't elaborate on what the FTK in question was, or even what you meant to clarify: that you think the only competitive use is the deck in question.

The reasons Zombies and the like are mere tier 2 is because their amazing support and draw engine (this card) got banned/limited. This card could restore them up a bit.

I don't think I understand why your statements are law. Or more specifically, why you think your statements are law. You seem to be the spokesman for every Yu-gi-oh player alive. What evidence do you have to backup that Fishborg OTK will be the only competitive use for Card of Safe Return? Why are you convinced that no one else will care to use this card for any other deck?

I'm not a meta player, but I don't get your logic yet. As far as I can tell, you're just being contrary for the hell of it.

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[quote name='evilfusion' timestamp='1292360875' post='4852518']
That's your opinion. And I will note your first post did not mention specific uses for Card of Safe Return. Mine did, and your choice of response was to give a blanket contradiction to TRUE statements and didn't elaborate on what the FTK in question was, or even what you meant to clarify: that you think the only competitive use is the deck in question.

The reasons Zombies and the like are mere tier 2 is because their amazing support and draw engine (this card) got banned/limited. This card could restore them up a bit.

I don't think I understand why your statements are law. Or more specifically, why you think your statements are law. You seem to be the spokesman for every Yu-gi-oh player alive. What evidence do you have to backup that Fishborg OTK will be the only competitive use for Card of Safe Return? Why are you convinced that no one else will care to use this card for any other deck?

I'm not a meta player, but I don't get your logic yet. As far as I can tell, you're just being contrary for the hell of it.
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I didn't want to patronise you and waste time. :mellow:

Points for the obvious, but Mezuki to 2 would be better at making the deck competitive but not broke. And it is still completely irrelevant.

I tested the deck with COSR@1. It was like Frog FTK on crack. And if such a deck is better than what was definitely one of the top 2 advanced format decks of all time, you can bet anything that it would be Tier 0 in a format with COSR@3.

The deck is simply the best. COSR in it is like Emergency Teleport in TeleDAD times five billion. If you still can't understand that if one card makes a deck Tier 0, its other uses are completely behind the point then I give up.

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[quote name='evilfusion' timestamp='1292360875' post='4852518']
That's your opinion. And I will note your first post did not mention specific uses for Card of Safe Return. Mine did, and your choice of response was to give a blanket contradiction to TRUE statements and didn't elaborate on what the FTK in question was, or even what you meant to clarify: that you think the only competitive use is the deck in question.

The reasons Zombies and the like are mere tier 2 is because their amazing support and draw engine (this card) got banned/limited. This card could restore them up a bit.

I don't think I understand why your statements are law. Or more specifically, why you think your statements are law. You seem to be the spokesman for every Yu-gi-oh player alive. What evidence do you have to backup that Fishborg OTK will be the only competitive use for Card of Safe Return? Why are you convinced that no one else will care to use this card for any other deck?

I'm not a meta player, but I don't get your logic yet. As far as I can tell, you're just being contrary for the hell of it.
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um no :blink:

Fishborg FTK format

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They win by slowly sending the opponent to sleep because of how long thier Main Phase 1 Takes, then they steal all the opponent's cards to win[/sarcasm end]

Am I the only one who will be saving up for SOTR and buying multiple booster boxes on the day of release for the Polar Gods/Aesir(Spelling?) Really looking forward to SOTR and Extreme Victory TBH.
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Is anyone else even marginally annoyed by the crude nicknames some cards are given? I'm quite bored of reading "Infernitard, Infernifag, Starfag Dragon, etc".

I get it, you hate the f***ing card(s)! Now find some clever way of insulting them.

Infernities' breaking card was Launcher. With Launcher limited, they're good, but not broken. They won't be touched. X-Sabers will probably get hit slightly harder.
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