evilfusion Posted December 19, 2010 Report Share Posted December 19, 2010 [quote name='War Chess' timestamp='1292771072' post='4864405'] I think that useful but may put the one who plays it in trouble. If you play this is like Dark Magic Courtain. It brings you a monster but your life points go down. Imagine going from 8000 to 4000 in 1 card. It is not balanced (in my opinion). [/quote] How is it not balanced? 1) Only level four or below (so no Neos or Bladedge) 2) Only Elemental Heroes 3) You must control no monsters 4) It costs half your LP. "Imagine going from 8000 to 4000 in 1 card". This sounds like an argument that this card is not balanced, when paying 4000 LP for one card is typically considered a stupid move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
War Chess Posted December 19, 2010 Report Share Posted December 19, 2010 Still, Its better to wait for a good monster to come. It is a good card when your life points are like 1000 or less, otherwise its stupid using this ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brinolovania Posted December 19, 2010 Report Share Posted December 19, 2010 [quote name='evilfusion' timestamp='1292771402' post='4864417'] This sounds like an argument that this card is not balanced, [b]when paying 4000 LP for one card is typically considered a stupid move.[/b] [/quote] What if I'm Solemn Judgment-ing Mirror Force when I control four monsters? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDKMRV Posted December 19, 2010 Report Share Posted December 19, 2010 Looks great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted December 19, 2010 Report Share Posted December 19, 2010 [quote name='!' timestamp='1292772747' post='4864450'] What if I'm Solemn Judgment-ing Mirror Force when I control four monsters? [/quote] Obviously, that is an example of a very SMART time to pay half your lifepoints for one card. I did say "typically" not "always". Solemn Judgment is better the less LP you have, but the larger costs can be worthwhile depending on what you're negating. This card costs 1/2 your LP to SS an E-hero from your deck, with additional stipulations, such as level and the number of monsters you control. At 8000 LP, using this card is little short of completely idiotic, depending on what else you're planning and what you accomplish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Berserker- Posted December 20, 2010 Report Share Posted December 20, 2010 This+Hummingbird+Supervise=OTK? OMG, that's dumb... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Cakey Posted December 20, 2010 Report Share Posted December 20, 2010 Can someone explain why I would use this instead of E-Call? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Berserker- Posted December 20, 2010 Report Share Posted December 20, 2010 [quote name='Dr. Cakey' timestamp='1292806453' post='4866047'] Can someone explain why I would use this instead of E-Call? [/quote] Because of the Neo Spacian Air Hummingbird OTK... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARKPLANT RISING Posted December 20, 2010 Report Share Posted December 20, 2010 [quote name='Saikano' timestamp='1292807470' post='4866105'] Because of the Neo Spacian Air Hummingbird OTK... [/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Unclean One: VK Posted December 20, 2010 Report Share Posted December 20, 2010 Losing a crap ton of LP is a price I'm willing to pay to win a duel. Great card, but should have been quick play, or at least pay 3000 life points. Should have included all the other Heroes so I could add this in to the Giga Greed Overload deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azuh Posted December 20, 2010 Report Share Posted December 20, 2010 [quote name='Saikano' timestamp='1292806016' post='4866026'] This+Hummingbird+Supervise=OTK? OMG, that's dumb... [/quote] 6500 ATK does not equal 8000 Try again good sir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas★Zero Posted December 20, 2010 Report Share Posted December 20, 2010 Also this is very splasible in many ways Normal use of summon Neos Alius as a beat stick, Fusion Matireal for generic Heros A0 and that, Synchro Summon, Masked Hero's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neither Posted December 20, 2010 Report Share Posted December 20, 2010 It's good support for an oversupported Archetype. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaouJudai Posted December 20, 2010 Report Share Posted December 20, 2010 [quote name='Nate Xeroâ„¢' timestamp='1292727179' post='4863429'] my only question is who in their right mind would call woodsman to save them? (dis on pic) [/quote] because he commands the power of mint and berries - which we all know humbled cthulu recently - combined with a powerful crunch - this should be self explanatory. *glares* Heroes will run this. I plan to run 1. 3 E Call 1 Rota 1 Hero Arrives The Diamond Dude method is best. I never do what is best or smart. Stupid is more fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Berserker- Posted December 20, 2010 Report Share Posted December 20, 2010 [quote name='Azuh' timestamp='1292816743' post='4866508'] 6500 ATK does not equal 8000 Try again good sir [/quote] If both players have 8000 Lp. Pay 4000 to summon Neos Alius. Equip it with Supervise. Normal summon Hummingbird. [s]Synchro[/s] Contact Fusion Air Neos. Supervise summons Alius. Attack with 2500+4000 ATK Air Neos. Then attack with Alius. 2500+4000+1900=8050 in my book... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted December 20, 2010 Report Share Posted December 20, 2010 [quote name='Saikano' timestamp='1292867057' post='4867845'] If both players have 8000 Lp. Pay 4000 to summon Neos Alius. Equip it with Supervise. Normal summon Hummingbird. [s]Synchro[/s] Contact Fusion Air Neos. Supervise summons Alius. Attack with 2500+4000 ATK Air Neos. Then attack with Alius. 2500+4000+1900=[b]8050[/b] in my book... [/quote] Might want to double check your numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaouJudai Posted December 20, 2010 Report Share Posted December 20, 2010 Where did the 50 come from? I believe those are troll points. close to 8500 works kinda - 6500+1900=8400 Do I get points for trolling Evil(hero)fusion? I troll him moar than the motor on my fishing boat and I never get any points!! I pay half my LP and SS evilfusion from the ethernet!!!! It's a good card - will see play - definitely going to see play in D Hero variants Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Berserker- Posted December 20, 2010 Report Share Posted December 20, 2010 8050 is still closer to the number than 6500... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaouJudai Posted December 20, 2010 Report Share Posted December 20, 2010 So I get 6500 troll points? Holy Cow !!! That's off topic so they may actually be spam points - veering back on topic When the heck are we going to see this card???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARKPLANT RISING Posted December 20, 2010 Report Share Posted December 20, 2010 [quote name='eviljudai' timestamp='1292876737' post='4868258'] So I get 6500 troll points? Holy Cow !!! That's off topic so they may actually be spam points - veering back on topic When the heck are we going to see this card???? [/quote] Most likely in the V Jump promo packs no one can buy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaouJudai Posted December 21, 2010 Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 So the 26th of 2 years from now pretty much? Well maybe in a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas★Zero Posted December 21, 2010 Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 [quote name='Saikano' timestamp='1292867057' post='4867845'] If both players have 8000 Lp. Pay 4000 to summon Neos Alius. Equip it with Supervise. Normal summon Hummingbird. [s]Synchro[/s] Contact Fusion Air Neos. Supervise summons Alius. Attack with 2500+4000 ATK Air Neos. Then attack with Alius. 2500+4000+1900=8050 in my book... [/quote] WRONG AWNSER! It totals 8300. Plus for a 3 card OTK to work you need to atleast have something like MST, Giant Trunade or such to counter any spell and traps that the opponent set that can counter it aswell as a card to destroy defending monsters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted December 21, 2010 Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 Its name sounds way too much like the title of a Half-Life Full Life Consequences story. Also, to whoever suggested it, E-Heroes' effects are mostly too bland to make much use of the toolbox/option capabilities. Your choice will obviously depend on the situation, but there are basically going to be just a couple of obvious targets you'll always choose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azuh Posted December 21, 2010 Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 [quote name='Saikano' timestamp='1292867057' post='4867845'] If both players have 8000 Lp. Pay 4000 to summon Neos Alius. Equip it with Supervise. Normal summon Hummingbird. [s]Synchro[/s] Contact Fusion Air Neos. Supervise summons Alius. Attack with 2500+4000 ATK Air Neos. Then attack with Alius. 2500+4000+1900=8050 in my book... [/quote] I actually forgot about Supervises secondary effect >_> Btw, its 8400 damage not 8050 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manjoume Thunder Posted December 21, 2010 Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 [quote]WRONG AWNSER! It totals 8300.[/quote] I knew that ycm is bad @ygo but you guys even sucks @math Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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