Great Unclean One: VK Posted December 27, 2010 Report Share Posted December 27, 2010 We all know nukes. They could be CED. JD. Etc. Let's discuss these types of cards. also [spoiler= Who actually makes the nuking cards at the R&D of Konami for YGO][IMG]http://i774.photobucket.com/albums/yy26/MajesticDragon/Touhou%20Project/PosesedTsuru.jpg[/IMG][/spoiler] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brinolovania Posted December 27, 2010 Report Share Posted December 27, 2010 [img]http://static.seekingalpha.com/uploads/2009/7/8/saupload_nuclear_bomb_badger350.jpg[/img] OT:They are annoying. hurr hurr. And fun when you use them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Cakey Posted December 27, 2010 Report Share Posted December 27, 2010 They're fun, so who cares if happening to have Dark Hole in your opening hand wins you the game, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Posted December 27, 2010 Report Share Posted December 27, 2010 [spoiler=Origional Nuker is the best][img]http://images.wikia.com/yugioh/images/b/b2/Demise,KingofArmageddonDR04-EN-SR.png[/img][/spoiler] Final Destination can be considered a "nuke" card but its obviously terrible. TBQH, nuke monsters are incredibly unfair. They result in multiple +'s at a minimal cost (BRD, JD, Demise for examples). It'd be better if they couldn't activate their nuke effects until the next turn but thats just me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARKPLANT RISING Posted December 27, 2010 Report Share Posted December 27, 2010 CED is the first complete nuker -.- I love nukes. Immidiate +2s and +3s, even +4s could be easily achieved for low costs like grave RFPing or 1000 to 2000 LP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WattDragon Posted December 27, 2010 Report Share Posted December 27, 2010 I hate lightsworns so much.. they should ban JD :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted December 27, 2010 Report Share Posted December 27, 2010 [quote name='WattDragon' timestamp='1293422024' post='4885951'] I hate lightsworns so much.. they should ban JD :/ [/quote] But JD is a "money card" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Gideon. Posted December 27, 2010 Report Share Posted December 27, 2010 [quote name='WattDragon' timestamp='1293422024' post='4885951'] I hate lightsworns so much.. they should ban JD :/ [/quote] lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth_The_Legend Posted December 27, 2010 Report Share Posted December 27, 2010 Nukes aren't good for the game unless they have some stupid drawback to go with them. Given the right set-up, you can easily +4 or 5 from just 1 card. i.e Cold Wave + Debris Dragon = BRD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted December 27, 2010 Report Share Posted December 27, 2010 [quote name='WattDragon' timestamp='1293422024' post='4885951'] I hate lightsworns so much.. they should ban JD :/ [/quote] No, Konami would rather ruin a decktype than ban its ace card and see if the decktype can still run without it. If an archetype requires a banworthy card to be competitive, then the archetype deserves to die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARKPLANT RISING Posted December 27, 2010 Report Share Posted December 27, 2010 [quote name='WattDragon' timestamp='1293422024' post='4885951'] I hate lightsworns so much.. they should ban JD :/ [/quote] I hate many members, they should ban them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysty Posted December 27, 2010 Report Share Posted December 27, 2010 [quote name='$super**$star**$silver$' timestamp='1293450139' post='4886457'] No, Konami would rather ruin a decktype than ban its ace card and see if the decktype can still run without it. If an archetype requires a banworthy card to be competitive, then the archetype deserves to die. [/quote] Word. On that note, how crazy would a format of 3 Lumina and 3 Charge of the Light Brigade be? At the very least there would be Lightsworn.eng (engine) rather than lightsworn.dek. Oh wait, that's probably a horrible idea, but still I wonder what the format would be like it all Lightsworns were at 3 and JD was at 0. Personally, I don't like complete or almost-complete field nukes. They can create a large amount of card advantage even if the opponent isn't overextending. Even if the opponent has only 4 or 5 cards on field (not bad at all), a field nuke could easily give a +3. S/T nukes have to have an additional card cost and be done VERY carefully so as not to be able to allow for OTKs. Heavy Storm failed at being careful and so is banworthy. Monster nukes is a bit different because monsters generally pay for themselves within the turn of their summioning. The large amount of Special Summoning in the format means that the fieldcan be back to normal in 1 or 2 rounds. However, monstrer nukes can also allow OTKs, so I feel they should also be careful so that they only punish overextension. That's my thought on the subject. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted December 27, 2010 Report Share Posted December 27, 2010 CED was the original nuker, than came levia dragon, daedalus, who with the cost of 1 card (A Legendary Ocean - which is Umi) can nuke the field other than itself, and still attack directly (but if i did that i'd avoid an attack for a reason) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-Rrey Posted December 27, 2010 Report Share Posted December 27, 2010 lolaboutJD Anyway, nukes are awesome [s]and are good for game[/s]. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WattDragon Posted December 27, 2010 Report Share Posted December 27, 2010 Well lightsworns ruined the game its really hard to beat them >_< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Berserker- Posted December 27, 2010 Report Share Posted December 27, 2010 The only mass removal card I run is Torrential Tribute. After that, I prefer 141 stuff, like Golden Flying Fish or Deep Sea Charge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Unclean One: VK Posted December 27, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 27, 2010 [quote name='WattDragon' timestamp='1293470355' post='4887101'] Well [b]lightsworns ruined the game[/b] its really hard to beat them >_< [/quote] That's like saying Cirno is the strongest, or the smartest. The game has been ruined since Chaos was introduced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthmunchy Posted December 28, 2010 Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 [quote name='Mystery Guest' timestamp='1293463582' post='4886776'] On that note, how crazy would a format of 3 Lumina and 3 Charge of the Light Brigade be? [/quote] September 2008 list much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King of Nothing Posted December 28, 2010 Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 [quote name='VK's Red Terror' timestamp='1293489692' post='4887931'] That's like saying Cirno is the strongest, or the smartest. The game has been ruined since Chaos was introduced. [/quote] Here here. Nukes are too strong. In the next ban list we'll probably be playing with no dark hole and no heavy. Should be fun. Especially for all of the people that didn't waste money on a starlight road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The ReBeL Posted December 28, 2010 Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 [quote name='WattDragon' timestamp='1293470355' post='4887101'] Well lightsworns ruined the game its really hard to beat them >_< [/quote] Did they Cold Wave>>JD u alot? I think so! Just side better or play better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-Rrey Posted December 28, 2010 Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 [quote name='Battlestorm' timestamp='1293516211' post='4889096'] Did they Cold Wave>>JD u alot? I think so! Just side better or play better. [/quote] For this i'll give you a cookie! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARKPLANT RISING Posted December 28, 2010 Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 [quote name='VK's Red Terror' timestamp='1293489692' post='4887931']The game has been ruined since Chaos was introduced. [/quote] Ah. Those days...those days when my Dumanes Dark Witch was pro... They'll never come back. Ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brinolovania Posted December 28, 2010 Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 [quote name='=Evangelion=' timestamp='1293542207' post='4889487'] Ah. Those days...those days when my Dumanes Dark Witch was pro... They'll never come back. Ever. [/quote] Sure they can. All you need to do is hold a gun to your friends throats, and force them to play using only cards from before the Chaos guys were released! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Unclean One: VK Posted December 28, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 [quote name='=Evangelion=' timestamp='1293542207' post='4889487'] Ah. Those days...those days when my Dumanes Dark Witch was pro... They'll never come back. Ever. [/quote] They will. But to do so, are you willing to make the ultimate sacrifice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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