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[i]Select 1 face-up "Aesir" monster you control. Give control of it to your opponent. During your opponent's next End Phase, destroy it. Then, remove from play all cards your opponent controls.[/i]

Discuss. Also, will you be able to revive the Aesir later with its effect or not?
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So why exactly did you give your opponent a 3500 effect negator (Thor), a 3300 Trap negator when it attacks (Loki) or a 4000 that can make itself immune to S/Ts (Odin)?

I mean, you spent the resources to bring it out, and now you're giving it to your opponent for a turn, before having it self-destruct and take their field with it? Okay, but to accomplish that, you need a Polar God on your field, have this hilarious Spell with an unpronounceable name that's a dead-draw even if you DO have a Polar God, and then you need to NOT DIE for a turn.

Assuming your opponent doesn't destroy, Tribute, or do other things with it.

Thanks, I'll be keeping my Polar God on my field and using this thing's deck space for a card that doesn't suck.

[quote name='<}Alpha Frogodile{>' timestamp='1296174062' post='4966659']
this + cold wave + Power bond/Future Fusion = Win
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I don't follow. This is a Normal Spell, meaning it has to be used during the Main Phase, which means you didn't fulfill Cold Wave's requirement of activating Wave the first thing in Main Phase 1. And even if you did manage something like that, you now can't use S/Ts to keep your own Polar God from murdering you.
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[quote name='Shard Of Stardust' timestamp='1296168011' post='4966171']
:) I like this card. I can just imagine the major trolling with this. And yes, I believe you can revive it, as long as you have the required tuner.
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You wouldn't be able to revive it with its own effect because once it hits your Graveyard, it would be considered to have been destroyed by your effect, not the opponent's.

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The only reason I can imagine someone would use this card is to screw over a Stall deck, and it already has Gravity Bind or Level Limit out, so you're not in danger of your Polar God murdering you, and it's actually worth removing your opponent's field.

Unfortunately, if you even think about putting this card into a Polar God deck, you're just not being very smart. It's situational in that you need a Polar God in the first place, and it's counterproductive in that you give it to your opponent for a turn and say "go nuts".
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[quote name='evilfusion' timestamp='1296233529' post='4968006']
Well, Odin does say "until the End Phase", and I'm not sure if that's how Odin's effect would work, since Odin was already affected by this card's effect and the effect to destroy it is a lingering effect.
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Odin would not be destroyed by the lingering effect if it is protected from the effects of Spell/Trap cards when its destruction occurs.

Since the turn player decides the order when effects resolve during the Standby and End Phases, logically they'll resolve Gotterdammerung before resolving Odin.

Perhaps the right idea would be to activate Odin's effect that allows it to be unaffected by Spell/Trap cards first, then to activate Gotterdammerung on it. Since Odin would be unaffected by Gotterdammerung when it first activates, that should mean that it stays on your side of the field (since it is unaffected by the control change), then the latent effect would still destroy it during the opponent's End Phase since that is when Gotterdammerung's 2nd effect actually affects Odin.
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[quote name='evilfusion' timestamp='1296237847' post='4968106']
*blinks* Really?

So the Polar God changing ownership is not a requirement for the rest of the effect to resolve properly?

So then this card does have a use: You wipe your opponent's field in exchange for killing your Odin next turn.

It's still not a very good card.
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There's a difference between when an effect cannot be performed, and when an effect can be performed successfully but due to circumstances doesn't work as intended. This would be the latter case.

The effect that changes control is applied to Odin successfully, but since Odin is not affected, he ignores it.
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