wiithepeople Posted April 16, 2011 Report Share Posted April 16, 2011 [quote name='burnpsy' timestamp='1302888627' post='5140452'] @wii: Try reading the actual Extra Deck before suggesting the removal of something that isn't there. [/quote] Try reading your own list... [quote name='burnpsy' timestamp='1302836220' post='5139517'] Trying RBoD's idea got these results: [spoiler=Results] Monster - Amount of times summoned XX-Saber Gottoms #1 - 11 Stardust Dragon #1 - 10 Ancient Fairy Dragon #1 - 9 No. 34 Electronic Computer-Beast Tera Byte #1 - 9 Red Dragon Archfiend #1 - 9 Colossal Fighter #1 - 8 Formula Synchron #1 - 8 Scrap Dragon #1 - 8 T.G. Hyper Librarian #1 - 8 Thought Ruler Archfiend #1 - 8 Armory Arm #1 - 6 Karakuri Shogun mdl 00 "Burei" #1 - 6 T.G. Hyper Librarian #2 - 6 Ancient Sacred Wyvern #1 - 5 Genex Ally Triforce #1 - 5 Arcanite Magician #1 - 4 Gaia Knight, the Force of Earth #1 - 3 Shooting Quasar Dragon #1 - 3 Black Rose Dragon #1 - 2 Formula Synchron #2 - 2 Shooting Star Dragon #1 - 2 [b]Ally of Justice Catastor #1 - 1[/b] Armory Arm #2 - 1 No. 17 Revise Dragon #1 - 1 Red Nova Dragon - 1 T.G. Blade Blaster #1 - 1 T.G. Halberd Cannon #1 - 1 T.G. Hyper Librarian #3 - 1 [/spoiler] But just grabbing the top 15 here would be stupid. Just being able to summon it easily doesn't make it better than something lower on the list. For example, Quasar/Shooting Star/SSD >>>> Triforce. Plus, most of that is turn 1 solitaire. Thoughts on any possible changes to the Extra Deck based on this? IMO, I should leave it be, except for maybe squeezing Gottoms in. Anyone see space? [/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnpsy Posted April 16, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2011 [quote name='wiithepeople' timestamp='1302967994' post='5142884'] Try reading your own list... [/quote] Read more carefully. My list is still the one in the OP. I said I should "leave it be", as in the list in the OP. Note that the list in the spoiler is WAY over 15. EDIT: Space to test Levaiel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted April 17, 2011 Report Share Posted April 17, 2011 I'd test Levial by removing Red Nova. In all the duels we played, you brought out Red Nova once, and you already had SSD out in that duel, making it more just a lulzy win than a necessity to bring out. If Levial doesn't work out, or makes it EASIER to bring out Nova, then we can talk about removing something else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnpsy Posted April 17, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2011 Turn 1 (if I didn't hand Levaiel): Scrap Dragon + Stadust Turn 1 (with Levaiel): Librarian, Scrap Dragon, Stardust, Levaiel And note that I drew a lot more because of that. Keeping it in there. It's pro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted April 17, 2011 Report Share Posted April 17, 2011 Wonderful...another powerful card for me to fight against. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnpsy Posted April 17, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2011 I can detect the sarcasm. I just love how my inconsistent Morph OTK, which was still better than most builds of them, turned into this in 2 months from help that primarily came from [i]YCM[/i]. I only had 1 person who gave me advice ONCE from outside of YCM. And it essentially just resulted in the second dupe and the decrees. If only I could find the pile of fail Morphs that I posted when I first joined this site, It would make a rather amazing comparison on how [b]YCM[/b] can really fix a deck if pestered enough times. I think we're pretty much done here. I just need to fix a few chants (RDA, Stardust, maybe Quasar) and add one for Levaiel, because it's too pro to [i]not[/i] have one. I even had Arm design a mat for me: [center][img]http://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/43552MorphtronicMat.jpg[/img][/center] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted April 17, 2011 Report Share Posted April 17, 2011 Well yes, your deck is already hard enough to overpower or outplay, but it does demonstrate that Exceeds have incredible potential if one can find where to apply it. I loved your Armory Arm chant. After our first few games, I advised one of my friends on some card picks, using what I remembered of your deck. His deck's nowhere near your level (a more similar build flopped horribly), but it's a lot stronger than it used to be, which goes to show how good this deck is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airride Posted April 17, 2011 Report Share Posted April 17, 2011 We better watch out, If you top, Morphs will be EVERYWHERE! XD Nice mat...LEGOS! To quote the terrible CD-I zelda... "Ma Boi! This is what ALL true Morphtronic decks Strive to be!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Nu-13 Posted April 19, 2011 Report Share Posted April 19, 2011 Looks perfect. You'd have to do more changes later though (banlist...) but as for now, seems perfect. Lol, the deck is VERY different than the version you took to last YCS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnpsy Posted April 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 20, 2011 Fun fact: This deck gets the requirements for Trish a lot without my opponents noticing, since I always have to twist it around so I can summon something else and not have a dead field. An example: My field has Birdman, Formula, and Celfon. I have Junk Box in hand. My grave has Lighton, Boarden and a few other things. Celfon's effect pulls out Remoten and Radion. In this case, I'd pull out Radion. Note that I can revive Boarden and tune it with Radion and Formula for Trish, leaving Birdman + Celfon to make Armory Arm. Instead, however, I have to opt to revive Lighton, tune it with Radion for Librarian, tune that with Birdman for Stardust, and tune that with Formula for Shooting Star, leaving Celfon behind. But, as we've established, finding room is complete hell, so I won't bother trying unless someone finds a slot. --- Since everyone seems to be redirecting all of the new members who try building Morphs here, I think I should write out a full explanation of how the deck works for them. Thoughts? It WILL be a wall of text. ._. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Nu-13 Posted April 20, 2011 Report Share Posted April 20, 2011 Walls of text are cool. Go for it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted April 20, 2011 Report Share Posted April 20, 2011 If Trishula is that easy to bring out, I'd suggest removing RDA for it, or testing in such a way. You have Scrap and Stardust for level 8. Yeah, make a playbook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Zero Posted April 20, 2011 Report Share Posted April 20, 2011 I would put your wall of text in a heart. <3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnpsy Posted April 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 20, 2011 OK. I'll write it when I'm bored. I [i]do[/i] presently have the week off so I can study for exams, but I [s]haven't needed to study all year[/s] honestly don't feel like studying. [quote name='evilfusion' timestamp='1303331174' post='5154865'] If Trishula is that easy to bring out, I'd suggest removing RDA for it, or testing in such a way. You have Scrap and Stardust for level 8. [/quote] While I do get plays with triple LV8s... I guess those are rare enough for me to not worry about it. In any case, testing shows that I can indeed get it out easily. The testing also showed exactly what I would probably be doing instead in those situations, ranging from plays that end in Librarian + Stardust as opposed to Trish + Radion (the better one there depends on the situation, really). Remember the times when I got Librarian + Armory Arm? Those could have also been Trish. Irrelevant but funny opening play I got while testing: Fortress + Gottoms, set Decree, go. So yeah, adding over RDA. I should probably try it in an actual duel, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAEGING D0GKING Posted April 20, 2011 Report Share Posted April 20, 2011 Try to side 2 Gottoms E Call. Would be amazing against Sabers when you get out Gottoms, since then you dont need your opponent to have a saber monster and you can use gottoms effect twice with the 2 saber monsters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted April 20, 2011 Report Share Posted April 20, 2011 [quote name='Odin el Padre de los Aesir' timestamp='1303333436' post='5154956'] Try to side 2 Gottoms E Call. Would be amazing against Sabers when you get out Gottoms, since then you dont need your opponent to have a saber monster and you can use gottoms effect twice with the 2 saber monsters. [/quote] *just stares* Is he serious? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnpsy Posted April 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 20, 2011 [IMG]http://i606.photobucket.com/albums/tt148/burnpsy/Other%20Images/PunchingNakai.png[/IMG] When it comes to the side, I only have 2 issues ATM: 1. I wish Book wasn't Limited, E-Con doesn't seem to cut it, and flipping stuff face-down would be rather nice. 2. I wish it were easier to side stuff in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnpsy Posted April 23, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 23, 2011 http://duelistweeklyblog.blogspot.com/2011/04/how-to-use-morphtronics-correctly.html Playbook is up. EDIT: Limiter -> 3rd Dupe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnpsy Posted April 27, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 27, 2011 So I tried testing the deck like this: -3 Decree +1 Treacherous Trap Hole +1 Giant Trunade +1 Morphtronic Scopen -3 Puppet Plant -1 Mirror Force -1 TT +2 Penguin Soldier +3 Decree But then I faced a deck with 0 Traps, followed by another one with Skill Drain, so I wasn't able to see if it was a good change or not. ._. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Michael Geren Posted April 27, 2011 Report Share Posted April 27, 2011 I tested against tier 1 and 2 decks, but I lost. That's probably because I'm not as much of a lucksack as you and I like to weed out backrows before playing Celfon + Dupe (I never drew Decree even when it was played) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnpsy Posted April 27, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 27, 2011 Wow, your luck's bad. In any case, yeah this deck's too vulnerable to the backrow. Also, the 3rd Scopen was too much. Trunade's just 1 card to handle the backrow while Decree is 3, and TTH isn't compatiible with Decree. As such, I'm inclined to keep Decree. I DO, however, want to test an Accelerator or 2 in here again it handles hands with 2 Celfon and Dupe quite nicely, and returns Morphs I don't want to draw (like drawing both Lighton when opening with Celfon and Dupe. Space to test that? EDIT: Cut Mind Control for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnpsy Posted April 30, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2011 Added a pair of Penguin Soldiers over Puppet Plants, leaving 1 Puppet Plant. Lighton -> Lantron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Nu-13 Posted April 30, 2011 Report Share Posted April 30, 2011 It's Lantron now, huh... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byak Posted April 30, 2011 Report Share Posted April 30, 2011 Why are you not playing Brionac? Also anything that isn't topping/winning at a YCS doesn't mean anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnpsy Posted April 30, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2011 [quote name='Thor el Señor de los Aesir' timestamp='1304204789' post='5180137'] Why are you not playing Brionac? [/quote] I noticed a few patterns that repeated every time I went for a LV6: When I call for one, it's usually as a beatstick. My hands are usually at a low count, except for when I just abused Librarian. In that case, my field is probably Quasar + Stardust or just Quasar. I usually want to hang onto what I have. I tried Brionac before, and it wasn't exactly stellar under those conditions. I'll try it again, tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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