Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted March 20, 2011 Report Share Posted March 20, 2011 [img]http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20070906023320/yugioh/images/thumb/1/10/DesertTwisterTAEV-EN-UR-1E.jpg/300px-DesertTwisterTAEV-EN-UR-1E.jpg[/img] "This card cannot be Normal Summoned or Set. This card cannot be Special Summoned except by removing from play 1 EARTH and 2 WIND monsters from your Graveyard. Once per turn, you can discard 1 card to destroy 1 Spell or Trap Card on the field." [img]http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20070906023313/yugioh/images/thumb/a/af/FrostandFlameDragonTAEV-EN-ScR-1E.jpg/300px-FrostandFlameDragonTAEV-EN-ScR-1E.jpg[/img] "This card cannot be Normal Summoned or Set. This card cannot be Special Summoned except by removing from play 1 FIRE and 2 WATER monsters from your Graveyard. Once per turn, you can discard 1 card to destroy 1 monster on the field." Created back when Chaos Sorcerer was banned. They were okay cards back then, but now they're well outclassed (in my opinion). Doesn't make too much sense, besides its appearance, for Desert Twister to be a Fiend. What do you guys think of these two? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Posted March 20, 2011 Report Share Posted March 20, 2011 Chaos Sorcerer > These. I think the main reason is because of the Attribute match-up they gave each card. I mean, what deck runs Fire [i]and[/i] Water monsters unless its for the sake of summoning this. The cards however are pretty balanced and look cool. They are more for fun decks than anything else right now IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Griffin Posted March 20, 2011 Report Share Posted March 20, 2011 FrogVells. Yeah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zkaiser Posted March 20, 2011 Report Share Posted March 20, 2011 Tag Force 5 a girl used FrostnFlame in her Horus Dragon Deck Horus Blizzard Dragon Snowman Eater Future Fusion She was pretty pro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boss Z Posted March 20, 2011 Report Share Posted March 20, 2011 Frost and Flame Dragon = Future Abuse: Gravity Bind, Flame Sprite, Drill Barnacle... and maybe Wave Motion Cannon I'm going to make a tester for that deck as soon as I can... I've treid to make decks for both of these cards but I am always at a loss since it is hard to find Synergy between the Types They even lack abilities to combine for simple swarm tactics... its hard to do, but there are some ways to get them out and once they are they can be rather effective... I wish the destroy abilities were switched though... sorta, lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Berserker- Posted March 20, 2011 Report Share Posted March 20, 2011 [quote name='Canadian' timestamp='1300643348' post='5085338'] I mean, what deck runs Fire [i]and[/i] Water monsters unless its for the sake of summoning this. [/quote] Monarchs and Samurai? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf777 Posted March 20, 2011 Report Share Posted March 20, 2011 I've never even heard of Desert Twister, though i knew of Frost and Flame Dragon. How odd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARKPLANT RISING Posted March 20, 2011 Report Share Posted March 20, 2011 Desert Twister looks like something from the Bartimaeus Trilogy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anbu-of-Sand Posted March 20, 2011 Report Share Posted March 20, 2011 [quote name='Canadian' timestamp='1300643348' post='5085338'] Chaos Sorcerer > These. [/quote] This. I wouldn't mind seeing more 2 Attributed Decks though besides Chaos, wouldn't mind some Fire / Water Competition. I guess you could call a Fire / Water Deck like, Steam and Earth / Wind....yeah, don't got one for Earth / Wind. But even if they did make more 2 Attributed Decks / Variants (that work), I'd still say Chaos is better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zkaiser Posted March 20, 2011 Report Share Posted March 20, 2011 EARTH and WIND would be Dust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted March 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 20, 2011 [quote name='Zkaiser' timestamp='1300663721' post='5086302'] EARTH and WIND would be Dust. [/quote] http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Dust_Release Close enough. They are okay cards themselves. It's just finding a deck they would actually fit into. Chaos Sorcerer is really splashable, and these... not so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anbu-of-Sand Posted March 20, 2011 Report Share Posted March 20, 2011 [quote name='slayer_supreme' timestamp='1300664090' post='5086316'] http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Dust_Release Close enough. They are okay cards themselves. It's just finding a deck they would actually fit into. Chaos Sorcerer is really splashable, and these... not so much. [/quote] This is because Konami has failed, or at the least, not yet attempted to make more Archetypes of contrasted Attributes that can work together. -Edit- Dust Sorcerer - EARTH / WIND - Level 6 Spellcaster / Effect ATK 2500 - DEF 2800 This card cannot be Normal Summoned or Set. This card can only be Special Summoned by removing 1 EARTH and 1 WIND monster in your Graveyard from play. Once per turn, you can return 1 Set card on your opponent's side of the field, and Set 1 card on yours. Every time you use this effect, you can return 1 additional card and Set 1 additional card (max. 3). If you activate this effect, this card cannot attack during this turn. Steam Sorcerer - FIRE / WATER - Level 6 Spellcaster / Effect ATK 2700 - DEF 2400 This card cannot be Normal Summoned or Set. This card can only be Special Summoned by removing 1 FIRE and 1 WATER monster in your Graveyard from play. Once per turn, you can increase your Life Points by 500 and decrease your opponent's Life Points by 500. Every time you use this effect, double the amount of Life Points your opponent's gets decreased by and the amount of Life Points your's gets increased by. (max. 1500). If you activate this effect, this card cannot attack during this turn. Yay or Nay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARKPLANT RISING Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 Steam needs at least 500 to be worth using. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anbu-of-Sand Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 [quote name='Darkplant' timestamp='1300666406' post='5086400'] Steam needs at least 500 to be worth using. [/quote] Fix'd. Not that it matters really, since Konami isn't going to see this anytime soon, or further more, make other 2 Attributed Archetypes / Decks / Whatever You May Call Its. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 I really like the concept behind these guys, and how they were a "new" take on the whole chaos gimmick. But sadly, they just aren't really [i]that[/i] strong. Though I do like how Frost and Flame can fit into a few weird plant builds. Still... Why the hell is Frost & Flame a Secret Rare? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted March 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 No idea. But it's sort of annoying how they made the least splashable/dumpable types the ones which you need 2 of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 [quote name='slayer_supreme' timestamp='1300671071' post='5086577'] the least splashable/dumpable types- [/quote] [img]http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20081007184656/yugioh/images/thumb/f/f3/SkreechGLAS-EN-ScR-1E.jpg/300px-SkreechGLAS-EN-ScR-1E.jpg[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted March 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 I was mainly meaning back then, but I did honestly forget about the WATER engines, and the fact that Gusta have a sure-fire way of flooding the grave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 [quote name='slayer_supreme' timestamp='1300671330' post='5086588'] I was mainly meaning back then, but I did honestly forget about the WATER engines, and the fact that Gusta have a sure-fire way of flooding the grave. [/quote] IMO, Frost and Flame is a lot easier to get to the field then Twister is. Mostly because there are a handful of WATER and FIREs that can fit nicely together without really messing any of the deck up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth_The_Legend Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 somehow keep pulling these. they're fairly terrible. flame dragon is ok, twister not so much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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