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@above: I believe that you can run this in almost any DARK Deck

[quote name='Armadilloz' timestamp='1302876887' post='5140162']
I dont even need to post here.
Penguin quoted the fact I said this card is Registeel, and Vasto used my same Deaboromon-movie-reference-joke.

Gotta' love YCM
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Sorry thought...
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[quote name='GenexAllyRemote' timestamp='1302835923' post='5139505']
When I saw this, I was like;
"Ban. Or limit. Or Ultra convert in US..."
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The ancient "it's okay to have broken cards as long as they're really expensive" argument resurrected once more. Except Super Bugman. Is. Not. Broken. At All. K?
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[quote name='Anbu-of-Sand' timestamp='1302825165' post='5138962']
inb4aDekwithgoodmonsterswithawesomedefense
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[quote name='evilfusion' timestamp='1302904117' post='5141178']
Then I think it's a matter of translation confusion. Wiki's translation says it's a Semi-Nomi, and considering its stats and Summoning Condition, I'm inclined to believe it.
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The wiki changed to this translation.
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Did it? Within the last 5-10 minutes, really?

This is Machine Imperial God Dragon Asterisk all over again. "It's a Semi-Nomi", "No wait, it's just got a Rare Metal restriction with an alternate Special Summon method", "Nope, it's a Semi-Nomi again", "Nope, now it's definitely not a Semi-Nomi."

On that note, what IS Asterisk classified as now?

Edit: Just looked at Wiki RIGHT now. It's still a Semi-Nomi.
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[quote name='evilfusion' timestamp='1302904486' post='5141192']
Did it? Within the last 5-10 minutes, really?

This is Machine Imperial God Dragon Asterisk all over again. "It's a Semi-Nomi", "No wait, it's just got a Rare Metal restriction with an alternate Special Summon method", "Nope, it's a Semi-Nomi again", "Nope, now it's definitely not a Semi-Nomi."

On that note, what IS Asterisk classified as now?

Edit: Just looked at Wiki RIGHT now. It's still a Semi-Nomi.
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The wiki has the exact effect in the OP. It hasn't been edited in the last 5 hours.

Asterisk is the same as this card in terms of not being a semi-nomi.
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This game suddenly stopped making sense.

So after years of Konami screwing every half-decent card by making it a FULL Nomi, suddenly they're releasing cards that have weird, specific Summoning Conditions, but are NOT Semi- or Full Nomis?

So neither Bugman nor Asterisk are Semi-Nomis despite that would make a lot of sense; instead they're No-Normal Summon monsters with optional Special Summon conditions from the hand? And they both happen to be DARKs with 0 ATK, begging Mystic Tomato to break them both. There's a reason Super Bugman Special Summons itself in Defense Position. Mystic Tomato would totally mess with that by bringing out a 3000 monster from the deck.

I'm having a hard time believing that. There's got to be some sort of translation issue. Most cards never follow this sort of bizarre trend.

[quote name='Armadilloz' timestamp='1302904819' post='5141220']
ITT: [url=http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Rare_Metal_Dragon]Rare Metal Dragon[/url] is literally unplayable because its a nomi that doesn't specify how to summon it, thus, un-summonable.
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The difference here is that Rare Metal doesn't have a Summoning Condition at all, it just can't be NS or Set. Asterisk and Bugman do have a condition, and that's why I have trouble believing they're not Semi-Nomis. Most monsters that aren't Nomis but have SS conditons (REDMD) don't state they can't be Normal Summoned or Set.
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It wouldn't be complete trash as a Semi-Nomi (but would as a Nomi). It seems like the type of card that would make no sense the way you're saying it's translated, and if it's not a semi-Nomi, it completely ruins the purpose the Bugman cards. Whether or not that's a bad thing remains to be seen. My argument is I think the translation is mistaken, not that I -want- it to be mistaken.

If it's not a Semi-Nomi, Mystic Tomato will probably be seen on an upcoming banlist, because then it can fetch Asterisk and an effective 3000 beater that battles with the opponent's DEF stat.
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