burnpsy Posted June 2, 2011 Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 ... With this many changes, Konami's gonna need to reprint the entire game, STAT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cody Frost Posted June 2, 2011 Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 [quote name='burnpsy' timestamp='1306978155' post='5247857'] ... With this many changes, Konami's gonna need to reprint the entire game, STAT. [/quote] >_> That is going to take both a lot of time AND a lot of money. But they don't exactly HAVE to... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Lightray Daedalus- Posted June 2, 2011 Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 [quote name='burnpsy' timestamp='1306978155' post='5247857'] ... With this many changes, Konami's gonna need to reprint the entire game, STAT. [/quote] I'm believing this is the porpouse of these http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Yu-Gi-Oh!_OCG_-_Beginner%27s_Edition_1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Posted June 2, 2011 Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 I am actually very pleased with those changes. The use of : and ; is a clever way to fix costs. Also, I'm curious about what they are going to do with Summoning Conditions. Its amusing how they clarified and specified those things in the card texts without making it look longer. My only complain is. I still have the older versions of the texts and a lot of those will still be rotating around, but I guess nothing can be done with that... Thumps up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shizuku Oikawa Posted June 2, 2011 Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 I'm quite pleased with what they are doing with the text of the cards. There was even a card I didn't fully understand, and it helped a little. I have to say, I'm looking forward to this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Cakey Posted June 2, 2011 Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 Why does Zombie Master have to remain on the field in order to resolve? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted June 2, 2011 Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 [quote name='No. -1 Dr. Cakey' timestamp='1307044950' post='5249206'] Why does Zombie Master have to remain on the field in order to resolve? [/quote] I have no idea, honestly. They might have changed the ruling. *looks it up* No, it was ALWAYS ruled that way, we just had absolutely no way to know this from reading the text. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boss Z Posted June 2, 2011 Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 OMG, OMG... not "Colon"!! Its starts yet another chain This will make the game easier to explain to simple minded kids, thank god Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilhorus Posted June 2, 2011 Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 Not bad. I expected a convoluted, mindless heap of text. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fraz Posted June 3, 2011 Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 No amount of changes to the card texts will completely get rid of the need to internet databases of rulings. Did the konami site die or something? I can't get any of these pages to load. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Lightray Daedalus- Posted June 3, 2011 Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 [quote name='Fraz' timestamp='1307063544' post='5249857'] No amount of changes to the card texts will completely get rid of the need to internet databases of rulings. Did the konami site die or something? I can't get any of these pages to load. [/quote] I manage to enter after the third try...so it may be ok now... Also...After testing this in my card making noticed how good this changes work...Kudoz on that konami now Reprint a lot and I'll be SO HAPPY...XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted June 3, 2011 Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 [quote name='Fraz' timestamp='1307063544' post='5249857'] No amount of changes to the card texts will completely get rid of the need to internet databases of rulings. [/quote] True, but it's a MASSIVE step towards making the game and rulings much, much easier for the average person to comprehend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDDRodrigo Posted June 3, 2011 Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 So the changes are actually good and coherent. After 4kids died, Konami got better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Cakey Posted June 3, 2011 Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 [quote name='REDRUM' timestamp='1307070822' post='5250126'] So the changes are actually good and coherent. After 4kids died, Konami got better [/quote] 4Kids hasn't died yet. But seriously, what about Zombie Master's effect requires it to still be on the field in order to resolve? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fraz Posted June 3, 2011 Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 [quote name='No. -1 Dr. Cakey' timestamp='1307107722' post='5250872'] 4Kids hasn't died yet. But seriously, what about Zombie Master's effect requires it to still be on the field in order to resolve? [/quote] From what I've been told it was a translation error when transferring from Japanese to English. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shizuku Oikawa Posted June 3, 2011 Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 I have the biggest temptation to make an entire set of Custom Cards with this new OCG just for the fun. The three written cards I made looked pretty good, now I wonder how it looks on an actual card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted June 3, 2011 Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 [quote name='Fraz' timestamp='1307109106' post='5250897'] From what I've been told it was a translation error when transferring from Japanese to English. [/quote] That makes sense. I wonder if Lumina has the same ruling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaouJudai Posted June 3, 2011 Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 Shonen Jump implemented the legality policies? Interesting. I may have jumped the gun in shouting 'WOLF' but saying that putting a colon in yugioh card texts is going to eliminate the need for a centralized rulings database is simply ludacris. Most of these changes are very welcome and even seem helpful so far. It's the 'you no longer need to use the internet as a reference' part that makes my skin crawl. They are shirking their corporate responsibilities of customer service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted June 3, 2011 Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 [quote name='HaouJudai' timestamp='1307116924' post='5251075'] Shonen Jump implemented the legality policies? Interesting. I may have jumped the gun in shouting 'WOLF' but saying that putting a colon in yugioh card texts is going to eliminate the need for a centralized rulings database is simply ludacris. Most of these changes are very welcome and even seem helpful so far. It's the 'you no longer need to use the internet as a reference' part that makes my skin crawl. They are shirking their corporate responsibilities of customer service. [/quote] So trying to make effects more cohesive =/= costomer service? And maybe the colon isn't going to do all that, but that's not the extent of the changes. They've just started, this isn't going to be the end of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Zero Posted June 3, 2011 Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 [quote name='HaouJudai' timestamp='1307116924' post='5251075'] They are shirking their corporate responsibilities of customer service. [/quote] Because making they game easier to understand isn't customer service? Tell me where I go wrong... 1. Make game easier to understand. (more fun) 2. People don't have to look up or wait for rulings, as much. (less people getting angry/bored) 3. Reprinting a bunch of cards. idgi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted June 3, 2011 Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 [quote name='HaouJudai' timestamp='1307116924' post='5251075'] Shonen Jump implemented the legality policies? Interesting. I may have jumped the gun in shouting 'WOLF' but saying that putting a colon in yugioh card texts is going to eliminate the need for a centralized rulings database is simply ludacris. Most of these changes are very welcome and even seem helpful so far. It's the 'you no longer need to use the internet as a reference' part that makes my skin crawl. They are shirking their corporate responsibilities of customer service. [/quote] It won't. You seem to be too focused on their underground malice to grasp their statement: They didn't say "You won't need to reference rulings anymore". They said "You'll only need to look at a few pages of rulings, instead of a thousand". They're drastically reducing confusion of how cards are intended to play out. You won't need to look at a card and think "wait, is this cost or effect?" because the formating of the card text will tell you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysty Posted June 12, 2011 Report Share Posted June 12, 2011 Not sure if this is necro-bumping or if this has already been posted, but this is Meklord Emperor Wisel's card text: Cannot be Normal Summoned or Set. Must be Special Summoned by its own effect, and cannot be Special Summoned by other ways. When a face-up monster you control is destroyed by a card effect and sent to the Graveyard: You can Special Summon this card (from your hand). Other monsters you control cannot declare an attack. Once per turn: You can target 1 Synchro Monster your opponent controls; equip that target to this card. This card gains ATK equal to those monsters' combined ATK. Once per turn, when an opponent's Spell Card is activated: You can negate the activation and destroy it. It appears nomi-text is: Cannot be Normal Summoned or Set. Must be Special Summoned by [method], and cannot be Special Summoned by other ways. Which is very clear. I like it. I'm starting to like this problem-solving card text more and more. What could semi-nomi text look like? And how can they clearly word "ignoring the Summoning Conditions" effects such that you know they can't be summoned from the Graveyard/banished unless they were properly summoned first. Hopefully the Problem-Solving card text page about summoning conditions will be up soon. And I wonder how they'll word effects that Miss the Timing, if they change those wordings at all (since that can be a ruling nightmare as well). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted June 12, 2011 Report Share Posted June 12, 2011 Maybe it'll say "Must be Summoned by [method] and afterwards can be Special Summoned by other ways" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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