Alice Moonflowyr Posted November 5, 2011 Report Share Posted November 5, 2011 You people should know what it does. Do yo thing TCG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Zero Posted November 5, 2011 Report Share Posted November 5, 2011 no [/thread] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Posted November 5, 2011 Report Share Posted November 5, 2011 ^ that was unfunny and rude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Posted November 5, 2011 Report Share Posted November 5, 2011 [quote name='Canadian' timestamp='1320507327' post='5618893'] ^ that was unfunny and rude. [/quote] But it's the truth Brain Control is slightly more balanced than this, and even that wouldn't create a good discussion. Too much freedom. Too little cost. Temporal +1 that isn't temporal if you have Extra Deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Zero Posted November 5, 2011 Report Share Posted November 5, 2011 [quote name='Canadian' timestamp='1320507327' post='5618893'] ^ that was unfunny and rude. [/quote] Then shall we continue the thread with +1s about how broken it is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Posted November 5, 2011 Report Share Posted November 5, 2011 lol stop trying to rationalize being an a******. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alice Moonflowyr Posted November 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 5, 2011 ....PoG is broke yet how many peeps bitched about it in its topic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
·Toot Posted November 5, 2011 Report Share Posted November 5, 2011 lol teh card is a lulz... damn you konami Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingdom Xathers Posted November 5, 2011 Report Share Posted November 5, 2011 [img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v619/Kotori-chan/Bakura-Ep-13-ChangeOfHeart6S.jpg[/img] Into... [img]http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20090523203055/yugioh/images/3/32/Lady_of_Faith_Bakura.jpg[/img] For Bakura... "Change of Heart" = "Change of Sex". XD OT: too OP'd even in the early video games like Dark Duel Stories. Which is not to say that Control-Shift cards aren't greatly abused these days, either, but like what was said earlier, this card having no cost = stay the f*** banned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementuo Posted November 5, 2011 Report Share Posted November 5, 2011 I know a guy who once walked into my lolcals with a 61 card deck. The 61st card was this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alice Moonflowyr Posted November 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 5, 2011 lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sander Posted November 5, 2011 Report Share Posted November 5, 2011 [quote name='Rupert Giles' timestamp='1320508491' post='5618940'] ....PoG is broke yet how many peeps bitched about it in its topic? [/quote] You know why people didn't b**** about this in Pot of Greeds topic? Because they were discussing Pot of Greed, not this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathanael D. Striker Posted November 5, 2011 Report Share Posted November 5, 2011 [quote name='Æther Royce' timestamp='1320512223' post='5619161'] You know why people didn't b**** about this in Pot of Greeds topic? Because they were discussing Pot of Greed, not this. [/quote] I think you misinterpreted his statement. He was asking why people don't b**** about PoG brokenness in any PoG topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Fascist Posted November 5, 2011 Report Share Posted November 5, 2011 Change of Heart is a free +0 that can lead to an Synchro or Xyz, or even use the monster as a beater. It takes a monster from the foe and hence can also somewhat count as removal if you use it to Synch/Xyz. It provides not only a completely retarded advantage to the player going second if it's his or her first turn, it also provides free tribute fodder. Being completely free does not help it's case at all. This won't be coming back, unlike some cards who might be able to come back at 1 for a format to see how it goes. Cards are banned for a reason, and this will pretty much stay forever banned. Shouldn't come back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sander Posted November 5, 2011 Report Share Posted November 5, 2011 [quote name='Mr. Striker' timestamp='1320512447' post='5619170'] I think you misinterpreted his statement. He was asking why people don't b**** about PoG brokenness in any PoG topic. [/quote] Welp, yeah. Now that I re-read it, it should be obvious. Sure, there was no bitching, but since I actually read the thread, there were people saying how it's broken and should never come back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted November 5, 2011 Report Share Posted November 5, 2011 It'd be nice if people recognised that it was actually a +0. Otherwise, everything's been said, it's broken. Forever banned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Fascist Posted November 5, 2011 Report Share Posted November 5, 2011 [quote name='Evil Tristan' timestamp='1320512886' post='5619183'] It'd be nice if people recognised that it was actually a +0. Otherwise, everything's been said, it's broken. Forever banned. [/quote] I know it's +0, but I call it a +1 by mistake. Excuse my error. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Posted November 5, 2011 Report Share Posted November 5, 2011 I actually just now realized this card was so abusable, konami split it into 2 halves: Brain Contol and Mind Control. Now Brain Control is banned and Mind Control is limited. Funny stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Posted November 5, 2011 Report Share Posted November 5, 2011 [quote name='Evil Tristan' timestamp='1320512886' post='5619183'] It'd be nice if people recognised that it was actually a +0. Otherwise, everything's been said, it's broken. Forever banned. [/quote] I'll have to differ: You loose the Spell (-1) Your opponent looses a monster (+0) Said monster goes to your side rather than what happens with regular one for one +0 removal. If you give the monster back, it's ultimately a -1, If you used the monster for an Extra Deck monster, this card stays as a +1 or why do you say it's a +0? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted November 5, 2011 Report Share Posted November 5, 2011 [quote name='~Applejack~' timestamp='1320513924' post='5619229'] I'll have to differ: You loose the Spell (-1) Your opponent looses a monster (+0) Said monster goes to your side rather than what happens with regular one for one +0 removal. If you give the monster back, it's ultimately a -1, If you used the monster for an Extra Deck monster, this card stays as a +1 or why do you say it's a +0? [/quote] Depends entirely of how you interpret taking control of a monster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mugendramon Posted November 6, 2011 Report Share Posted November 6, 2011 [quote name='Evil Tristan' timestamp='1320515694' post='5619299'] Depends entirely of how you interpret taking control of a monster. [/quote] Moving a card from one side of the board to another, if we were to say that happened by itself, is a +2 to the player who gained control of said card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted November 6, 2011 Report Share Posted November 6, 2011 [quote name='GoldenMagicMonkey' timestamp='1320538144' post='5620094'] Moving a card from one side of the board to another, if we were to say that happened by itself, is a +2 to the player who gained control of said card. [/quote] I realise, I also realised that said interpretation was better than mine and have adopted such myself, I just didn't say so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted November 6, 2011 Report Share Posted November 6, 2011 Let's see... 1) No cost 2) No restrictions on target 3) Target can be face-up or face-down 4) Controlled monster can attack or be Tributed. Especially with Synchros and Xyz, this is just wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARKPLANT RISING Posted November 6, 2011 Report Share Posted November 6, 2011 Mind Control is in all means inferior to this, and it's limited. It's also widely used. This is just effing no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mugendramon Posted November 6, 2011 Report Share Posted November 6, 2011 [quote name='evilfusion' timestamp='1320539203' post='5620141'] Let's see... 1) No cost 2) No restrictions on target 3) Target can be face-up or face-down 4) Controlled monster can attack or be Tributed. [b]Especially with Synchros and Xyz[/b], this is just wrong. [/quote] Above everything, this. In an age in which all you could do was attack, this was only a single sigh of relief. Now it's blatantly unfair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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