~ P O L A R I S ~ Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 Why is this getting so much more outrage than that one "we reserve the rights to indefinitely detain and/or assassinate random people" bill? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THROWDOWN Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 [quote name='~ P O L A R I S ~' timestamp='1327134791' post='5773657'] Why is this getting so much more outrage than that one "we reserve the rights to indefinitely detain and/or assassinate random people" bill? [/quote] Probably because peoples lives revolve around the internet and money. Internet in the sense they create online profiles, watch all their favorite shows etc via it, and money in the sense that they don't want to spend any. As dumb as it sounds, it's true. People want pirated things, the majority of people I know download illegaly. If people have the option to spend their hard earned bucks on something they could get for free, the chances are they're going to take it for free. It's an easy form of shoplifting in which you're not that likely to get caught. Everyone has a bad side. ;D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilhorus Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 [quote name='~ P O L A R I S ~' timestamp='1327134791' post='5773657'] Why is this getting so much more outrage than that one "we reserve the rights to indefinitely detain and/or assassinate random people" bill? [/quote]WHAT FIRST I'VE HEARD OF IT LINK PLEASE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral Tim Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 [quote name='.Rai' timestamp='1327018481' post='5771843'] You are an actual idiot. Like an actual idiot. Beyond idiotic, to be honest. Kay. I don't give a single crap about what the US are doing to combat crime, and neither do I care for your rather strange contractions. The US are utter retards for even thinking this was a good idea. They are giving up freedom for commercial benefit. What. The. FAAAAACKK. WHAT. THE. FAAAAAAAAAAAACCCKK. OT: Also, I think the whole world shouldn't have leaders, just in case they're all Illuminati members. [/quote] The US are trying to force their will on the world. Via the internet everyone must abide to the American's law. I agree that this is just utter stupidity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Zero Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 [quote name='~ P O L A R I S ~' timestamp='1327134791' post='5773657'] Why is this getting so much more outrage than that one "we reserve the rights to indefinitely detain and/or assassinate random people" bill? [/quote] Because those "random people" were only those with diplomatic immunity, iirc. And said military officer would still face foreign charges, just not US charges for murder. Although, I didn't follow that bill closly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John A. Zoidberg Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 [quote name='~ P O L A R I S ~' timestamp='1327134791' post='5773657'] Why is this getting so much more outrage than that one "we reserve the rights to indefinitely detain and/or assassinate random people" bill? [/quote] Actually, I read into that one shortly after it was passed. It isn't as malignant as you'd think. I don't remember the exact detail, but there was a lot of overreaction about it. [quote name='Ieyasu Tokugawa' timestamp='1327123366' post='5773533'] But megaupload was MADE for illegal means. [/quote] But that doesn't mean artist and other people who used it to store their own creative works for their own purposes should suffer without warning. :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Zero Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 [quote name='Ryūku' timestamp='1327154403' post='5773751'] But that doesn't mean artist and other people who used it to store their own creative works for their own purposes should suffer without warning. :/ [/quote] Giving a warning of soon to be termination on a hosting/file sharing site made for illegal use would only allow those who put illegal things on it to recover them. It sucks to be those that used it freely and correctly, but you can't blame anyone other than those who did the crime. Also, this is probably covered in some vague way in the Terms of Agreement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John A. Zoidberg Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 [quote name='Legend Zero' timestamp='1327154634' post='5773754'] Giving a warning of soon to be termination on a hosting/file sharing site made for illegal use would only allow those who put illegal things on it to recover them. It sucks to be those that used it freely and correctly, but you can't blame anyone other than those who did the crime. Also, this is probably covered in some vague way in the Terms of Agreement. [/quote] Yeah, true. Oh well, mediafire's still alive, and if I'm not mistaken, it doesn't have as financially malignant of a purpose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astro Dude Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 I'm really sad though. All that English Dubbed hentai gone. Vanshed in a nanosecond without any warning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nɇvɇrmorɇ Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 [quote name='Horus.' timestamp='1327141768' post='5773686'] WHAT FIRST I'VE HEARD OF IT LINK PLEASE [/quote] [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Defense_Authorization_Act_for_Fiscal_Year_2012"]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Defense_Authorization_Act_for_Fiscal_Year_2012[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Metallium Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 [size=6][b]This is bad:[/b][/size] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tD1yaE0GfQ&feature=g-logo&context=G2393c77FOAAAAAAAAAA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Zero Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 Guy is so stupid if he thinks any country can successfully a imprison a large percentage of its citizens. One quote from him that made me lol. "Its real, go ahead, look it up online." EDIT: And why did he continuously link megaupload to sopa and pipa? That had nothing to do with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Sage Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 Not to mention the freaking cost that would take... 25% of the world population being transported and put in jail? Kind of costy. Lowering jail costs by worsening jail conditions is kind of an act against Human rights, I believe. I have this argument for SOPA as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mehmani Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 The internet is very much something that harks back to the days before proper storing of records - it gives one anonymity (to an extent) and excites a callousness in practically everyone (what things would you do if no one was looking?). The SOPA bill is Orwellian in both nature and practice, and passed in a society in which the rich own the world it destroys personal freedom's final frontier. SOPA and PIPA are the latest in the many attempts to censor the internet. In response to Benraino's noble attempt at being a devil's advocate (unless he sincerely believes in it, in which case no comment), your example of leaks damaging art are moot - pop songs and drafts are leaking regularly, and one very bad writer with a poor mental state and a history of being an ignorant publicity-hounding drama queen petulantly reacts to a display of fan devotion by throwing her toys away. If you are going to defend something as intrinsically morally backward as SOPA, then use a better example. It's just another backward policy and obvious bit of corruption from the world's most backward developed country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astro Dude Posted January 22, 2012 Report Share Posted January 22, 2012 In Layman's terms? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JadenxAtemYAOI Posted January 22, 2012 Report Share Posted January 22, 2012 [quote name='Flame Dragon' timestamp='1327134641' post='5773656'] The simple fact is you can never stop crimes. However letting it go unabated is simply foolish. The key if limiting the number of open source of it since that is how most people obtain a lot of there illegally obtained material. While a good number of them will simply move on to the underground sources not everyone will because most people aren't that savvy. So yes, you can lessen it, and it is worth it, even if it is only 1% since 1% still adds up when your talking numbers in the millions. [/quote]You don't need to be tech savvy at all to access these. What you do. Go to the site. Download the browser. Open the browser. That's all. Nothing more nothing less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted January 22, 2012 Report Share Posted January 22, 2012 [quote name='JadenxAtemYAOI' timestamp='1327195368' post='5775060'] You don't need to be tech savvy at all to access these. What you do. Go to the site. Download the browser. Open the browser. That's all. Nothing more nothing less. [/quote] Savvy was a poor word choice. By that I ment people in the know. The simple fact is the layperson isn't likely to know know what an Onion network is so if that becomse the only way to find pirated content a portion of the people that were using the open sites can no longer get to it. And even I am over estimating the number of people that don't know the other channels to take to get their free goods even if it is only a few percent it i worth it because, again, the numbers we are talking about go into the millions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JadenxAtemYAOI Posted January 22, 2012 Report Share Posted January 22, 2012 [quote name='Flame Dragon' timestamp='1327195830' post='5775064'] Savvy was a poor word choice. By that I ment people in the know. The simple fact is the layperson isn't likely to know know what an Onion network is so if that becomse the only way to find pirated content a portion of the people that were using the open sites can no longer get to it. And even I am over estimating the number of people that don't know the other channels to take to get their free goods even if it is only a few percent it i worth it because, again, the numbers we are talking about go into the millions. [/quote]Go to google and type in "how to bypass sopa". Also, teenagers talk A LOT. Ways to bypass laws spread just as fast as rumors. I'm sure everyone or most people here in high school that have their computers at school filtered have been told one way or another on how to bypass the filter. Also, 1% in millions is let's see 10,000 people. 10,000 is the average amount of people in a Southern Illinois town. Southern Illinois being apart of the 6 most populous states. Congrats, you just stopped 1 town and only 1. Now you have several billion more towns to go. Not a difference at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shiina Posted January 22, 2012 Report Share Posted January 22, 2012 In response to the guy's video, why don't you just move the songs/files to an alternate hdd, then proceed to change your ip address? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JadenxAtemYAOI Posted January 22, 2012 Report Share Posted January 22, 2012 [quote name='Solar Chaos' timestamp='1327196826' post='5775082'] In response to the guy's video, why don't you just move the songs/files to an alternate hdd, then proceed to change your ip address? [/quote]You could change your dns cache too 8-8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shiina Posted January 22, 2012 Report Share Posted January 22, 2012 Forgot about that. Got to look that up though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JadenxAtemYAOI Posted January 22, 2012 Report Share Posted January 22, 2012 [quote name='Solar Chaos' timestamp='1327197018' post='5775085'] Forgot about that. Got to look that up though... [/quote]mozilla has a plugin for it I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Dr Professor Spaz Posted January 22, 2012 Report Share Posted January 22, 2012 It all makes sense now! 2012 really IS the end, thanks to SOPA and PIPA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JadenxAtemYAOI Posted January 22, 2012 Report Share Posted January 22, 2012 [quote name='Mr Spaz' timestamp='1327197344' post='5775094'] It all makes sense now! 2012 really IS the end, thanks to SOPA and PIPA. [/quote]2012 was proven false xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astro Dude Posted January 22, 2012 Report Share Posted January 22, 2012 Really? SO there's no planetary allignment and no end of the world? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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