rampragej Posted May 8, 2012 Report Share Posted May 8, 2012 I'll probably be able to build one of the above decks soon, but I cannot decide which :/. I've been doing great with Inzektors and Hieratics online, and my Wind-Ups are great like 85% of the time (tips on consistency?). I'll be building my deck IRL, not on Duelingnetwork, so keep price in mind if you make a suggestion. I was thinking just standard builds for the Zekts/W-Us and REDMD Hieratic, but if I should make another build let me know. Also if you would recommend buying a box/packs instead of just flat out buying the cards online, tell me. Sorry if I sound like a noob... Oh, and discuss which of the decks you think is best overall or would win if a tourny were arranged using only various builds of the decks above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not-so-Radiant Arin Posted May 8, 2012 Report Share Posted May 8, 2012 Wind-Ups used to be good, but then they lost priority, effectively knocking them down from their pedestal, as the scurry vermin that is Wind-Up Rat cannot sneak through the everlasting gaze of the crossdressing Effect Veiler. And also, Maxx "C" effectively adds 2 cards to your hand each time Hunter discards 1. Hieratics are a big force right now and they go for relatively cheap prices, but they suffer greatly from REDRUM Syndrome. Once REDMD (inevitably) gets hit in September, and while Atum gains a spot on the Limited list, Hieratics will finally be toned down a notch. Inzektors...pffh, forget about them. Singles are better than buying packs, even if they look ridiculously overpriced. You should buy online whenever you get the chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rampragej Posted May 8, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 8, 2012 Thanks! I'm actually not looking for too competitive play with other meta decks to contend with, but some of the people I play with do use veiler/maxx. Also, would you recommend orienting Wind-Ups (since I'm leaning towards them ATM) to hand control with hunter or raw field power with shark (or both?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Althemia Posted May 8, 2012 Report Share Posted May 8, 2012 Play Inzektors, because Hieratics and Wind-Ups are pretty bad and Inzektors are the best deck right now. You should also be picking up stuff in Singles for the most part, unless something is just plain easier to pick up in a pack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunshine Jesse Posted May 8, 2012 Report Share Posted May 8, 2012 [quote name='Devil's Advocate' timestamp='1336449619' post='5934914'] Hieratics are a big force right now and they go for relatively cheap prices, but they suffer greatly from REDRUM Syndrome. Once REDMD (inevitably) gets hit in September, and while Atum gains a spot on the Limited list, Hieratics will finally be toned down a notch. [/quote] I wouldn't bet on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manjoume Thunder Posted May 8, 2012 Report Share Posted May 8, 2012 Inzektors are arguably the best deck. Wind-Ups are bad and Hierarics don't have Gustaph so I won't bet on them being any better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted May 8, 2012 Report Share Posted May 8, 2012 Inzeeeeektoooooooooors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Posted May 8, 2012 Report Share Posted May 8, 2012 [quote name='Chris' timestamp='1336481275' post='5935034'] Inzeeeeektoooooooooors. [/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted May 8, 2012 Report Share Posted May 8, 2012 [quote name='Devil's Advocate' timestamp='1336449619' post='5934914'] Wind-Ups used to be good, but then they lost priority, effectively knocking them down from their pedestal, as the scurry vermin that is Wind-Up Rat cannot sneak through the everlasting gaze of the crossdressing Effect Veiler. And also, Maxx "C" effectively adds 2 cards to your hand each time Hunter discards 1. [/quote] You're right that Wind-Ups lost a lot of power with the loss of Priority, but what are you talking about with Rat? None of the Wind-Ups could escape Veiler. The reason Wind-Ups needed Priority so bad was because of Hunter and Zenmaity being 1500 ATK+ so Bottomless and Torrential couldn't really do much about them without their effect being used first. Rat is like Lyla: Regardless of Priority, removing them from the Field will stop the effect, because switching to DEF is part of the resolution, not a cost, so if they cannot switch to DEF, the effect can't resolve. Wind-Ups' greatest issue was Maxx C and Veiler could swiftly put an end to their big plays, because Maxx C would draw more cards than the loop could discard (as mentioned, 2-3 cards for every 1 sent), and Veiler's use depended entirely on what the Wind-Up player invested to the Field, especially if Magician and/or Shark was involved. It could either be useless or a death blow. Inzektors have the best Deck. They have the evil power that Hornet grants them, absurd swarm and search power with Dragonfly and Centipede, some devastating combos, the ability to mass plus, and many of them run solid backrows like Fiendish Chain to stall out and neutralize threats to their Inzektors. As such, they can speedily cut you down, or even hold out for a longer game if necessary, all while constantly maintaining the threat of gaining a +4 or more with little to no warning. Their greatest weakness is the reliance of Hornet in Graveyard and the power of Shadow-Imprisoning Mirror, but MSTs can deal with those easily. Hieratics are...evil. They're very fast and powerful, but they have weaknesses as well, such as a heavy reliance on Special Summoning, and also the fact they run a lot of higher Level monsters which can clog terribly. Well-timed Torrentials, Solemns, or Veilers can crush them quickly, if they dont manage to remove those hazards or work around them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rampragej Posted May 8, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 8, 2012 Hm... How much would you say a competitive Inzektor deck would cost though? After Inzektors, what's the best? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted May 9, 2012 Report Share Posted May 9, 2012 [quote name='rampragej' timestamp='1336516873' post='5935323'] Hm... How much would you say a competitive Inzektor deck would cost though? After Inzektors, what's the best? [/quote] Hornet costs around $30-40 each depending on where you get it from. Dragonfly is rare and Centi is common so they're cheap, as is Ladybug if you opt to run it. Hopper's rare. Giga-mantis is around $5 iirc, Zektcalibur sell for around $8-10 each iirc. You'll want 1 and 2 respectively. Effect Veiler just got reprinted in a SE, so shouldn't be too costly. Virtually everything from then on barring the extra deck is a common/is Solemn Warning. Extra deck can cost huge money though, unless you don't want Zenmaines which the deck honestly doesn't [i]need[/i] anyway. If you opt away from Inzektors, Hieratics are ok for budget, but both Heroes and Dark Worlds are better for around the same price or cheaper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Majishan Posted May 9, 2012 Report Share Posted May 9, 2012 It hurts my feelings when ppl say wind-ups are bad... While they surly lost power due to priority being gone...its still a solid deck choice when built and played right. Like most meta decks this format they can gain an absurd amount of advantage with very little investment (even outside of the loop with magician and shark shenanigans). Also....veiler and max c hurt but they are not impossible to play around. But if you want the best deck of the of what you listed...go with Inzektors (as much as i don't like the deck...its freaking great) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted May 9, 2012 Report Share Posted May 9, 2012 No love for Lavals... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solemn Silver Posted May 9, 2012 Report Share Posted May 9, 2012 [quote name='Expelsword - ä¿¡ä»°' timestamp='1336601074' post='5935904'] No love for Lavals... [/quote] Us not getting MTF until HA7 says nope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Althemia Posted May 10, 2012 Report Share Posted May 10, 2012 [quote name='Expelsword - ä¿¡ä»°' timestamp='1336601074' post='5935904'] No love for Lavals... [/quote] Because we're not talking about OCG, if you actually bother to read the damn topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted May 10, 2012 Report Share Posted May 10, 2012 I read every post. My point still stands. I think all of these decks are boring to play - and worse to play against - and don't promote much skill, not that Lavals do. I suppose I'd say play Inzektors, like most other people here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted May 10, 2012 Report Share Posted May 10, 2012 [quote name='Expelsword - ä¿¡ä»°' timestamp='1336677864' post='5936401'] I read every post. My point still stands. I think all of these decks are boring to play - and worse to play against - and don't promote much skill, not that Lavals do. I suppose I'd say play Inzektors, like most other people here. [/quote] Your point doesn't stand because the topic is "Which of these three decks can I build IRL?". People aren't mentioning Rabbit, and DW/HEROes only got mentioned because Budget, so why did you have to mention Lavals? =S That said, Inzektors are the best bet. Don't use Wind-ups, and Hieratics are OCG only or a weird Ninjieratic Build, or so I heard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted May 10, 2012 Report Share Posted May 10, 2012 [quote name='Yuzuru Otonashi' timestamp='1336678062' post='5936403'] People aren't mentioning Rabbit, and DW/HEROes only got mentioned because Budget, so why did you have to mention Lavals? =S [/quote] Because I like to pretend that Lavals are the best deck. Overall the strategies are the same spamming, just for different reasons. Inzektors - Destroy the field Wind Ups - Destroy the hand Hieretics - Destroy Life Points Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Berserker- Posted May 10, 2012 Report Share Posted May 10, 2012 Wind-upzektors look interesting. You blow everything with the old Inzektor combo, and then use your Dragonflies and Centipedes on the field to summon Zenmaity and do the Wind-Up loop. It may be inconsistent, but we are talking about fun here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARKPLANT RISING Posted May 11, 2012 Report Share Posted May 11, 2012 [quote name='-Berserker-' timestamp='1336693004' post='5936596'] Wind-upzektors look interesting. You blow everything with the old Inzektor combo, and then use your Dragonflies and Centipedes on the field to summon Zenmaity and do the Wind-Up loop. It may be inconsistent, but we are talking about fun here. [/quote] If you really think Wind-up Inzektors is a deck about fun something's wrong with your brain. Seriously, it's prolly the only deck I hated while using. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted May 11, 2012 Report Share Posted May 11, 2012 Wind-Upzektors is fun. If you like playing solitaire without the aces and still trying to complete it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Majishan Posted May 11, 2012 Report Share Posted May 11, 2012 I love wind ups...but I hate Inzek-Ups....cuz when it goes off...you actually feel bad while doing the combo cuz its so unfair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARKPLANT RISING Posted May 11, 2012 Report Share Posted May 11, 2012 Wind-Up Inzektors are way more autopilot than both normal Inzektors and normal Wind-Ups. Which is the reason I hate the deck as a whole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted May 11, 2012 Report Share Posted May 11, 2012 That and you compromise the consistency of Inzektors and the explosiveness of Wind-Ups just to run the 2 in conjunction and overall hamper the deck with the limitations you have on card choices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Fascist Posted May 11, 2012 Report Share Posted May 11, 2012 Inzektors. Get ready to bust your wallet paying for TGUs and stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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