Agro Posted May 14, 2012 Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 [img]http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110819211929/yugioh/images/thumb/7/7d/RebornTenguEXVC-EN-SR-1E.jpg/304px-RebornTenguEXVC-EN-SR-1E.jpg[/img] That's right, him. Discuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mido9 Posted May 14, 2012 Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 Thank you for not choosing tour guide. OT: Still brokebanzors for giving you free synchro material,no matter how useless he is in the meta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manjoume Thunder Posted May 14, 2012 Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 I was going to suggest killing it with fire but that would only summon a second copy from the deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Sage Posted May 14, 2012 Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 [quote name='Manjoume Thunder' timestamp='1337012364' post='5939104'] I was going to suggest killing it with fire but that would only summon a second copy from the deck. [/quote] [s]Cross it out it like a Nobleman![/s] Owait, one of my stupid moments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Fascist Posted May 14, 2012 Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 Yugioh needs a... [img]http://www.commandersgathering.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/Cloudshift-Avacyn-Restored-Spoiler-204x284.jpg[/img] Also why was [i]this, of all things [/i]hit before Tour Guide? This was rarely used outside of Synchs, even when @3. Tour Whore shows up everywhere. It's still not acceptable design, but like WHY?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted May 14, 2012 Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 [quote name='Јordan' timestamp='1337012811' post='5939109'] Yugioh needs a... [img]http://www.commandersgathering.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/Cloudshift-Avacyn-Restored-Spoiler-204x284.jpg[/img] Also why was [i]this, of all things [/i]hit before Tour Guide? [/quote] Idgi but I can tell it's probably not funny And seriously? WHAT THE HELL ARE THEY PROMOTING RIGHT NOW? This was hit to kill off plants/Synchros. TGU lived to support Xyz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durandamon Posted May 14, 2012 Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 This on field - Summon Birdman returning this - Summon another one of this from deck by effect - Go Level 7 Synchro - have fun - potato Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Fascist Posted May 14, 2012 Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 [quote name='Yuzuru Otonashi' timestamp='1337012979' post='5939110'] Idgi but I can tell it's probably not funny [/quote] Remove Tengu, get another Tengu, Tengu comes back. Also that's a stupid buisness ethic, then again, Konami are only in it for the money and give no fucks about the game's balance, as evidented by multiple cases of retarded card design. Plants needed to die, but Dandylion and Bulb should've gone, IMO. Spore could've been fun in Gigavise. While this card was @3, I made a Non-Synchro Falcon Deck with this, abusing the interaction of Tengu and Falcon blah blah, and then Konami goes and hits Tengu. Naturally, I'm happy about Plants going, but that deck was fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manjoume Thunder Posted May 14, 2012 Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 [quote name='Јordan' timestamp='1337012811' post='5939109'] Yugioh needs a... [img]http://www.commandersgathering.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/Cloudshift-Avacyn-Restored-Spoiler-204x284.jpg[/img] [/quote] Yugioh needs an Interdimensional Matter Transporter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted May 14, 2012 Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 i'm glad they gave this the Mali treatment tbh, not that i hated it @3 but having a more abusable Mali that was only used in Synchro decks was a tad overkill in my eyes and thus became a bad card design, though what can we expect for TCG exclusives Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted May 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 [quote name='evilsoul' timestamp='1337013450' post='5939116']though what can we expect for TCG exclusives [/quote]Barely usable cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Fascist Posted May 14, 2012 Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 [quote name='Manjoume Thunder' timestamp='1337013450' post='5939115'] Yugioh needs an Interdimensional Matter Transporter? [/quote] I forgot that card existed I dun derped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted May 14, 2012 Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 [quote name='Aggro' timestamp='1337013539' post='5939117'] Barely usable cards. [/quote] it was a rhetorical question... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrath's Child Posted May 15, 2012 Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 [font=georgia,serif]Can go to 3 now that Glow-Up Bulb gone and Synchros along with it. Birdman combos are fun, but they're not Bulb + Tengu.[/font] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted May 15, 2012 Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 [quote name='Wrath's Child' timestamp='1337056522' post='5939680'] [font=georgia,serif]Can go to 3 now that Glow-Up Bulb gone and Synchros along with it. Birdman combos are fun, but they're not Bulb + Tengu.[/font] [/quote] ... No it can't. Just because something isn't as abusable doesn't mean it's not horrendous design that deserves to stay on the list. If this can go to 3, so can Mali =T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrath's Child Posted May 15, 2012 Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 [quote name='Yuzuru Otonashi' timestamp='1337056680' post='5939682'] ... No it can't. Just because something isn't as abusable doesn't mean it's not horrendous design that deserves to stay on the list. If this can go to 3, so can Mali =T [/quote] [font=georgia,serif]Well, I'll have to sign in to that as well. If we extend Tengu the unlimited hand, why not Malicious, especially as they both are used for the same purposes? And if we are to condemn Tengu and Malicious for being tribute and synchro fodder, where should it stop? Till Dandylion and Treeborn Frog are implicated as well? Doppelwarrior? Cyber Dragon?[/font] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted May 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 [quote name='Wrath's Child' timestamp='1337056522' post='5939680'] [font=georgia,serif]Can go to 3 now that Glow-Up Bulb gone and Synchros along with it. Birdman combos are fun, but they're not Bulb + Tengu.[/font] [/quote]ITT: Tengu, Glow-Up, Spore, and Trishula were not banned all at once, and were instead banned separately, and because they were, we can bring them all back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas★Zero Posted May 15, 2012 Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 [quote name='Aggro' timestamp='1337013539' post='5939117'] Barely usable cards. [/quote] [quote name='evilsoul' timestamp='1337014158' post='5939128'] it was a rhetorical question... [/quote] I saw what you did their... [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KE6AXvsF60"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KE6AXvsF60[/url] OT: Still when it was at 3 it was annoying to get rid of since it kept coming back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mido9 Posted May 15, 2012 Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 [quote name='Wrath's Child' timestamp='1337057792' post='5939693'] [font=georgia,serif]Well, I'll have to sign in to that as well. If we extend Tengu the unlimited hand, why not Malicious, especially as they both are used for the same purposes? And if we are to condemn Tengu and Malicious for being tribute and synchro fodder, where should it stop? Till Dandylion and Treeborn Frog are implicated as well? Doppelwarrior? Cyber Dragon?[/font] [/quote] Dandylion,treeborn frog,malicious and etc are banworthy for being pathetically easy to use with good results. Cyber dragon and doppelwarrior take a bit of skill to get a good result with optimally as compared to frog/dandy/bulb/serpent who are just free fodder no matter how stupid you might be,even if all of them would be fine at 3. Dandylion and all other "free s*** for nothing" cards basically say: "if you're bad, you can now summon big monsters easier than before. If you're good, you can do so too, but being good doesn't make much difference with me.". To wit: Why should any player of any skill,[i]ANY[/i] randomass player in the world who only just read a rulebook,get free supremely easy to use or make fodder as easily as a skilled player who genuinely deserves the fodder for his strategy/deckbuilding prowess can? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwarven King Posted May 15, 2012 Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 I don't mind this at three. I never used it and it never bothered me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARKPLANT RISING Posted May 15, 2012 Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 It's perfectly okay now that Bulb and Spore are banned TBH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrath's Child Posted May 16, 2012 Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 [quote name='mido9' timestamp='1337070683' post='5939748'] Dandylion,treeborn frog,malicious and etc are banworthy for being pathetically easy to use with good results. Cyber dragon and doppelwarrior take a bit of skill to get a good result with optimally as compared to frog/dandy/bulb/serpent who are just free fodder no matter how stupid you might be,even if all of them would be fine at 3. Dandylion and all other "free s*** for nothing" cards basically say: "if you're bad, you can now summon big monsters easier than before. If you're good, you can do so too, but being good doesn't make much difference with me.". To wit: Why should any player of any skill,[i]ANY[/i] randomass player in the world who only just read a rulebook,get free supremely easy to use or make fodder as easily as a skilled player who genuinely deserves the fodder for his strategy/deckbuilding prowess can? [/quote] [font=georgia,serif]If the cards you condemn are fine at 3 (and you say they might be fine at 3), then why persist on moaning? To continue imposing old and discredited concepts on a playerbase that frankly doesn't care?[/font] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mido9 Posted May 16, 2012 Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 [quote name='Wrath's Child' timestamp='1337162940' post='5940433'] [font=georgia,serif]If the cards you condemn are fine at 3 (and you say they might be fine at 3), then why persist on moaning? To continue imposing old and discredited concepts on a playerbase that frankly doesn't care?[/font] [/quote] Fine at 3 [i]meta-wise[/i],but that does not make them suddenly balanced card designs which shouldnt go to 0 in/for a better meta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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