Canadian Posted May 20, 2012 Report Share Posted May 20, 2012 Mirra Forsuuu! [img]http://images.wikia.com/yugioh/images/e/e9/MirrorForceYS11-EN-C-1E.jpg[/img] This card sucks so hard. What is it even good against again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGATHODAIMON BANGTAIL COW Posted May 20, 2012 Report Share Posted May 20, 2012 *Torrential Tribute is better.* *TT is semi'd.* *Mirror Force is limited.* Logic. OT: The fact that this card used to be so broken, now sucks, is... I don't know how to say it. But it makes for a good destiny card against the dumb AI on a 1-MST 1-Heavy format on TF5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Althemia Posted May 20, 2012 Report Share Posted May 20, 2012 [quote name='T - Abhorrence' timestamp='1337526604' post='5943277'] *Torrential Tribute is better.* *TT is semi'd.* *Mirror Force is limited.* Logic. OT: The fact that this card used to be so broken, now sucks, is... I don't know how to say it. But it makes for a good destiny card against the dumb AI on a 1-MST 1-Heavy format on TF5. [/quote] Mirror Force was alright at the beginning of the format and was still being played. TT was still being played, but was semi'd because it's a good counter to every deck and they wanted every deck to actually have a viable out to them. Mirror Force doesn't do jack s***, so it'll probably go Semi in September. tl;dr Konami semi'd Torrential because it was better to give every deck an out to the metagame than giving them another dead card. Also this being bad really says a lot about the current metagame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoAreYou? Posted May 20, 2012 Report Share Posted May 20, 2012 [quote name='Canadian' timestamp='1337526152' post='5943269'] Mirra Forsuuu! [img]http://images.wikia.com/yugioh/images/e/e9/MirrorForceYS11-EN-C-1E.jpg[/img] This card sucks so hard [b]right now because of the format[/b]. What is it even good against again? [/quote] Fixed. And it was good before Inzektors, it was really good a year before THAT, and all the way back to the beginning when it first came out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementuo Posted May 20, 2012 Report Share Posted May 20, 2012 The card slowly lost staple status over the formats, yet there are instances where it's better than TT, such as in Six Sams where field setup, especially monster setup, is important. After Inzektors get hit, this thing may see more play, but it seems to have a similar situation as Book of Moon. It rises and falls every couple of formats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not-so-Radiant Arin Posted May 20, 2012 Report Share Posted May 20, 2012 I don't understand why you want to put monsters in the Graveyard. Wouldn't Banishing them stop them once and for all? Feel free to rip apart my logic, but that's why I believe D-Prison (which still sucks) is better than Mirror Force (which is pig crap). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted May 20, 2012 Report Share Posted May 20, 2012 inb4KonamiprintsBlackSonic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizarus Posted May 20, 2012 Report Share Posted May 20, 2012 [quote name='Dementuo Black Sun' timestamp='1337533382' post='5943346'] The card slowly lost staple status over the formats, yet there are instances where it's better than TT, such as in Six Sams where field setup, especially monster setup, is important. After Inzektors get hit, this thing may see more play, but it seems to have a similar situation as Book of Moon. It rises and falls every couple of formats. [/quote] That was the past, BOM will never fall again the way the game is now. Inzekderps along with Heavy + 3 MST is not helping it's case at all, but at least it stops Obelisk. That's got to count for something, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted May 20, 2012 Report Share Posted May 20, 2012 YCM logic is basically: Inzektors are the only deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mido9 Posted May 20, 2012 Report Share Posted May 20, 2012 [quote name='Devil's Advocate' timestamp='1337533655' post='5943347'] I don't understand why you want to put monsters in the Graveyard. Wouldn't Banishing them stop them once and for all? Feel free to rip apart my logic, but that's why I believe D-Prison (which still sucks) is better than Mirror Force (which is pig crap). [/quote] Right now D-Prison is better imo,thanks to lightpulsar dragon and grapha just going lolu at mirror force,and not a lot that hits the grave through mirror force/prison without +ing off it like LPD is really worth reusing,you wont bring back a spent leviathan or anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoAreYou? Posted May 20, 2012 Report Share Posted May 20, 2012 [quote name='Chris' timestamp='1337538497' post='5943382'] YCM logic is basically: Inzektors are the only deck. [/quote] Right? It's f***ing annoying. OT: I still think this is good, no matter what format. If there's no space for it in my deck, I'd always Side it. Every time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Posted May 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2012 [quote name='Chris' timestamp='1337538497' post='5943382'] YCM logic is basically: Inzektors are the only deck. [/quote] Are you saying its good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted May 20, 2012 Report Share Posted May 20, 2012 [quote name='Canadian' timestamp='1337554368' post='5943540'] Are you saying its good? [/quote] Are you trying to imply that punishing your opponent for overextending is a bad thing? It's not [i]good[/i] per se, but you're moronic if you call it bad.Oh and Inzektors are dropping in popularity, while Rabbit is getting even more popular again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Fascist Posted May 20, 2012 Report Share Posted May 20, 2012 The problem with Force, is that it only deals with the aftermath of your opponent's plays, and cannot nuke monsters in Defence. Torrential however, can be activated as soon as their plays begin, and while you bomb your own monsters, generally that isn't a problem at all. The fact that Torrential has a better matchup against the top decks makes it better too. The card doesn't suck, a 1 sided psuedo-nuke will never suck, but because of the format we're currently in where S/T removal is everywhere, you get the idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Posted May 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2012 Every big deck doesn't care about it this meta. Heroes: lol gemini spark, shining plusses, make miracle live and other stuff DWs: Grapha is immortal unless rfg'd Inzektors: nuff said Rabbit: dem lances, dem laggias, also lolstarlight Chaos Dragon: lol LPD loops, trooper, lylas All in addition to 3 MST and Heavy. wow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted May 21, 2012 Report Share Posted May 21, 2012 [quote name='Canadian' timestamp='1337603103' post='5943840'] Every big deck doesn't care about it this meta. Heroes: lol gemini spark, shining plusses, make miracle live and other stuff DWs: Grapha is immortal unless rfg'd Inzektors: nuff said Rabbit: dem lances, dem laggias, also lolstarlight Chaos Dragon: lol LPD loops, trooper, lylas All in addition to 3 MST and Heavy. wow [/quote] When Heroes push they still have monsters on the board, and last I checked an Alius is weaker than Shining so I wouldn't be as scared if they got one back. Cards can't be mediocre game 1? This still saves you from being OTK'd against Dark Worlds and forces them to have all their resources they spent that turn brining out Graphas in vain. Oh no, it's bad game 1, just like how Guaiba is bad against Rabbit game 1. Have you ever tried Lancing your attacking monster? Have you ever tried lancing your 2-3 monsters at once? Also lolforcinglaggianegates. Starlight can be said for TT so I don't see your point there. Dat 4 monster push just became a 2 monster end field. I thought you were better than this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Posted May 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2012 And now we wait for what Byakk has to say and then for everybody to agree with what he says. YCM classic thread <3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted May 21, 2012 Report Share Posted May 21, 2012 Mirror Force is actually still viable. Its just... Running 2 Torrentials is cooler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Dralcax Posted May 21, 2012 Report Share Posted May 21, 2012 Mirror Force works... Not the best defense against the current meta, but it's still a staple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Judgment Dragon Posted May 21, 2012 Report Share Posted May 21, 2012 [quote name='Chaos Dralcax' timestamp='1337638436' post='5944300'] Mirror Force works... Not the best defense against the current meta, but it's still a staple. [/quote] Staple implying that it is a must in every Deck. That's not the case so it's technically not a staple. Just because it's not great in the current meta, it doesn't mean it is terrible as a card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Crouton Posted May 21, 2012 Report Share Posted May 21, 2012 I just never have space for it anymore with Torrential @2. Could still side it. Not everyone on DN plays Inzektors/Rabbit/whatever other meta deck I didn't mention, and it's a great card to play mind games on the opponent when they're set up with 3+ big monsters they just wasted their cards to get out and they realize you don't have Torrential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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