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Guest Yuzuru Otonashi

It sucks because relying on Xyz from the hand is always a bad idea, obviously.

 

EDIT: But it's broken in Dark Worlds.

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Guest Vengevine

I wonder if anyone's ever used the draw effect?

 

People have.

 

And they always rip Miracle.

 

Because Bubbleman's a f***ing boss.

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I feel because of 2012 banlist and alot of banter to stratos should be banned because of Excalibur OTK, I feel to atleast keep stratos usible for heros, is to either semi-limit or limit this card since its one of those more problematic cards. (sure it may kill bubblebeat decks >_>; but it atleast means it allows Heros to keep one of their more vital cards.)

 

I also managed to use bubbleman's effect when drawing that vital E-call or Rota when I basically have nothing then manage to get a XYZ out of it.

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I feel because of 2012 banlist and alot of banter to stratos should be banned because of Excalibur OTK, I feel to atleast keep stratos usible for heros, is to either semi-limit or limit this card since its one of those more problematic cards. (sure it may kill bubblebeat decks >_>; but it atleast means it allows Heros to keep one of their more vital cards.)

I also managed to use bubbleman's effect when drawing that vital E-call or Rota when I basically have nothing then manage to get a XYZ out of it.

 

Stratos is awful design .-.

 

Besides, Heroes will still have a ridiculously consistent search engine.

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Guest Yuzuru Otonashi

I feel because of 2012 banlist and alot of banter to stratos should be banned because of Excalibur OTK, I feel to atleast keep stratos usible for heros, is to either semi-limit or limit this card since its one of those more problematic cards. (sure it may kill bubblebeat decks >_>; but it atleast means it allows Heros to keep one of their more vital cards.)

 

I also managed to use bubbleman's effect when drawing that vital E-call or Rota when I basically have nothing then manage to get a XYZ out of it.

Wha?

 

Bubbleman is completely balanced in every conceivable way. Yes, it can be a +2, but requires you to be in an absolute corner for that to happen. Yes, it can summon itself, but it requires having no hand, so all resources are dedicated to the field.

 

Stratos is the broken searcher from anywhere, Bubbleman and Alius (before you even mention it) are absolutely fine. HEROes don't deserve to live if they need Stratos, as you're saying. Though they'd still have four searchers.

 

EDIT:

300px-NinjaGrandmasterHanzo-ORCS-EN-UR-1E.jpg

 

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Wha?

 

Bubbleman is completely balanced in every conceivable way. Yes, it can be a +2, but requires you to be in an absolute corner for that to happen. Yes, it can summon itself, but it requires having no hand, so all resources are dedicated to the field.

 

Stratos is the broken searcher from anywhere, Bubbleman and Alius (before you even mention it) are absolutely fine. HEROes don't deserve to live if they need Stratos, as you're saying. Though they'd still have four searchers.

 

In terms of alius I would of said Gemini Sparks is more problematic then Alius. Plus with the Meta being about speed and fast decks, you would of atleast though a deck with a decent amount of search power atleast make it partly decent (along with all of the other requirements for a deck).

 

Its just a thought towards keeping stratos with either weakening or killing the Excalibur OTK.

 

Plus hows this card at 1, which for HEROS, can repeativly search cards each time its normal summoned or special summoned or acts like a R-R.J. on legs that bad when we only have stuff like Monster Reborn as one of the fast revival cards and COTH, POA and other various cards which are much slower in terms in bring stratos out again depending on use?

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In terms of alius I would of said Gemini Sparks is more problematic then Alius. Plus with the Meta being about speed and fast decks, you would of atleast though a deck with a decent amount of search power atleast make it partly decent (along with all of the other requirements for a deck).

Its just a thought towards keeping stratos with either weakening or killing the Excalibur OTK.

Plus hows this card at 1, which for HEROS, can repeativly search cards each time its normal summoned or special summoned or acts like a R-R.J. on legs that bad when we only have stuff like Monster Reborn as one of the fast revival cards and COTH, POA and other various cards which are much slower in terms in bring stratos out again depending on use?

 

> In terms of Alius

> Alius isn't problematic

> Neither is Gemini Spark

 

The reason is because Stratos is awful design pretty much. It's not destroying the game because it's not banned, but it doesn't deserve to be not banned.

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In terms of alius I would of said Gemini Sparks is more problematic then Alius. Plus with the Meta being about speed and fast decks, you would of atleast though a deck with a decent amount of search power atleast make it partly decent (along with all of the other requirements for a deck).

 

Its just a thought towards keeping stratos with either weakening or killing the Excalibur OTK.

 

Plus hows this card at 1, which for HEROS, can repeativly search cards each time its normal summoned or special summoned or acts like a R-R.J. on legs that bad when we only have stuff like Monster Reborn as one of the fast revival cards and COTH, POA and other various cards which are much slower in terms in bring stratos out again depending on use?

 

ffs just go away. ;-;

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EDIT:

300px-NinjaGrandmasterHanzo-ORCS-EN-UR-1E.jpg

 

Sorta

I know this isn't the topic, but Hanzo is a bit iffy because he has to be Special Summoned for a monster search, and his targets (to be honest) typically aren't all that good on their own. His first Summoned effect also telegraphs your turn extremely badly, though it can cause the opponent to take a completely defensive strategy if they can't handle your card.

 

Don't get me wrong, I love the card. Its effect is awesome and the art is amazing, but it definitely doesn't have the same uses, even in a conventional HERO-style Deck perspective.

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Guest Yuzuru Otonashi

I know this isn't the topic, but Hanzo is a bit iffy because he has to be Special Summoned for a monster search, and his targets (to be honest) typically aren't all that good on their own. His first Summoned effect also telegraphs your turn extremely badly, though it can cause the opponent to take a completely defensive strategy if they can't handle your card.

 

Don't get me wrong, I love the card. Its effect is awesome and the art is amazing, but it definitely doesn't have the same uses, even in a conventional HERO-style Deck perspective.

... Ehm... Look at the first word in the card's name for why I posted it x-x

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