~British Soul~ Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 [quote name='Expelsword - 黎明' timestamp='1356895823' post='6106265'] This card has been around much much longer than TGU. [/quote] True, though during the time I'vebeen on the site I've seen as much MR topics as TGU topics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 Reborn isn't as much of a problem as it's targets. But it also has too many targets that are problems and makes every last one of them more of a problem than they need to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 Reborn's problem is that... 1) It's costless 2) It's a Spell, meaning instant use 3) It has no restrictions on what it can bring back. 4) It can hit the opponent's Grave, too. Other cards like Call of the Haunted only work on your Grave, is a Trap, bonds to the monster it's reviving, and SSes in ATK position. Much slower, much fairer. Reborn has none of those weaknesses. Even Premature is potentially more fair, since it has a cost, only works on your Grave, SSes in ATK position, and bonds to the monster. Of course, Premature has a loophole regarding its method of leaving the Field and the absurd recyclability it has with Hidden Armory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 Then you get people who argue that Call of the Haunted gets Continuous Trap support.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aix Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 This game is luck-based enough with the fact that you draw 5 random cards at the start of the Duel and 1 random card every turn. It doesn't need more luck-based stuff like this and BLS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 [quote name='evilfusion' timestamp='1356909008' post='6106483'] 4) It can hit the opponent's Grave, too.[/quote] Pretty much, this is the main problem with it. While this could be situational, the Opponent could literally have something game-winning that you could easily Reborn to your side, and win just because of that. Aside from that scenario, its actually not [i]THAT[/i] problematic. I mean, assuming the stuff you revive is completely harmless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARKPLANT RISING Posted December 31, 2012 Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 [quote name='AixDivadis' timestamp='1356910893' post='6106503']It doesn't need more luck-based stuff like this and BLS. [/quote] Or you could just stop making yourself look stupid by not comparing Reborn with BLS, cards which are on completely different power levels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunar Origins Posted December 31, 2012 Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 [quote name='DARKPLANT RISING' timestamp='1356927586' post='6106776'] Or you could just stop making yourself look stupid by not comparing Reborn with BLS, cards which are on completely different power levels. [/quote] [img]http://egamer.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/farewell-piccolo-clip_2.jpg[/img] [color=#ffffff]I actually want to set a tier list for cards now[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted December 31, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 [quote name='☆~Rin-chan~☆' timestamp='1356928009' post='6106783'] [img]http://static2.fjcdn.com/comments/Its+over+9000+_60a988d9607a1276f20192d1a54c5e8a.jpg[/img] [/quote] Pic doesn't work, link goes to funnyjunk's front page. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted December 31, 2012 Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 [quote name='Howling Black' timestamp='1356928162' post='6106788'] Pic doesn't work, link goes to funnyjunk's front page. [/quote]It's Nappa's face when he asked about Goku's power level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Zero Posted December 31, 2012 Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 guys. Guys. GUYS. This is one of the few cards in the TCG that has better art than the OCG version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementuo Posted December 31, 2012 Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 [quote name='Legend Zero' timestamp='1356929945' post='6106829'] guys. Guys. GUYS. This is one of the few cards in the TCG that has better art than the OCG version. [/quote] idk I prefer OCG But this is definitely funkier and the Ultra of this does look damn good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted December 31, 2012 Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 [quote name='Dem Gem Carbuncle' timestamp='1356930566' post='6106852'] But this is definitely funkier and the Ultra of this does look damn good [/quote] I agre, I was starting to get tired of just playing the common all the time. Although I can't decide which Ultra Reborn looks the best (LOB, DB1 or LCYW). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lechugas Posted December 31, 2012 Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 Reborn should only be in your graveyard. I think it is rigged if you can reborn an enemy monster too Just my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpakha Posted December 31, 2012 Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 [quote name='lechugas' timestamp='1356944751' post='6106998'] Reborn should only be in your graveyard. I think it is rigged if you can reborn an enemy monster too Just my opinion. [/quote] The way you put that can be misinterpreted. I think you mean "Reborn should only be allowed to summon from your own grave. It's unfair if it can summon from your opponent's grave too." Anyway, I like this card @ 1 tbh. There are times when it leads to 1 card victory, but that usually depends on luck. Water of Life would make a great replacement though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted December 31, 2012 Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 The reason this card can target the opponent's Graveyard is that Yugi needed a way to beat Ghost Kaiba. So whenever you play this card, thank a gay clown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Zero Posted December 31, 2012 Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 [quote name='Expelsword - 黎明' timestamp='1356964940' post='6107117'] The reason this card can target the opponent's Graveyard is that Yugi needed a way to beat Ghost Kaiba. So whenever you play this card, thank a gay clown. [/quote] I do that whenever I play this game in general. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Sage Posted December 31, 2012 Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 [quote name='Expelsword - 黎明' timestamp='1356964940' post='6107117'] The reason this card can target the opponent's Graveyard is that Yugi needed a way to beat Ghost Kaiba. So whenever you play this card, thank a gay clown. [/quote] Actually, this was the original plot device of the very first canon duel in Yu-Gi-Oh!, (the manga, mind you) reviving the BEWD that was destroyed due to Kaiba not owning the card. So yeah, thank theft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not-so-Radiant Arin Posted December 31, 2012 Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 We should ban Reborn [s]Black[/s]. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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