Agro Posted February 7, 2013 Report Share Posted February 7, 2013 We just can't have nice things. I'm fully expecting to see this go to 0 in a format or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mido9 Posted February 7, 2013 Report Share Posted February 7, 2013 It was going to have it coming eventually.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted February 7, 2013 Report Share Posted February 7, 2013 It was going to have it coming eventually.. I agree, even though I haven't used it in a while, I'd be fine to see it go tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sora1499 Posted February 7, 2013 Report Share Posted February 7, 2013 It's basically a rekindling: playing it properly is either gg or you're using it wrong. Still, I haven't seen it being used recently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted February 7, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2013 It's basically a rekindling: playing it properly is either gg or you're using it wrong. Still, I haven't seen it being used recently. I have. (proxies for Elemental Dragons btw) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mido9 Posted February 7, 2013 Report Share Posted February 7, 2013 lolsauce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildflame Posted February 7, 2013 Report Share Posted February 7, 2013 Nobody uses it tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted February 7, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2013 Nobody uses it tho. You haven't been paying attention to LTGY, have you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted February 7, 2013 Report Share Posted February 7, 2013 Isn't that pretty much the only trap that they run, though? And it's typically useless when used at any time but your own turn, so it's even slower than TT and will likely get MST'd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted February 7, 2013 Report Share Posted February 7, 2013 Isn't that pretty much the only trap that they run, though? And it's typically useless when used at any time but your own turn, so it's even slower than TT and will likely get MST'd. Have you actually read the Zhenglong? If used on opp's turn, it's a defensive wall that fills up your hand in the End Phase. Also, being an "offensive-only" trap isn't a very strong argument when it supports OTKing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildflame Posted February 7, 2013 Report Share Posted February 7, 2013 You haven't been paying attention to LTGY, have you? If you mean the new Dragons, they have yet to prove their competitive value. And if they somehow end up being meta, this will only be a win moar card for them, in the same fashion as Card Destruction for Dark Worlds, or Future Fusion for Chaos Dragons (granted, that one was banned, but it had all sort of silly loops going around with it). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sora1499 Posted February 7, 2013 Report Share Posted February 7, 2013 [quote name="Wildflame" post="6138898" timestamp="1360266064"]If you mean the new Dragons, they have yet to prove their competitive value. And if they somehow end up being meta, this will only be a win moar card for them, in the same fashion as Card Destruction for Dark Worlds, or Future Fusion for Chaos Dragons (granted, that one was banned, but it had all sort of silly loops going around with it).[/quote] And both of those cards you used as examples are used in those decks... Hmm... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted February 7, 2013 Report Share Posted February 7, 2013 If you mean the new Dragons, they have yet to prove their competitive value. And if they somehow end up being meta, this will only be a win moar card for them, in the same fashion as Card Destruction for Dark Worlds, or Future Fusion for Chaos Dragons (granted, that one was banned, but it had all sort of silly loops going around with it). Have you played against them? They're a really good decktype, able to compete with most tier decks at the moment due to the sheer ability to put out powerful monsters with backup abilities. This just in, Win Conditions are winmoar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted February 7, 2013 Report Share Posted February 7, 2013 The point of what I was saying is that you're more often that not going to end up wasting it because your opponent will, in all likelyhood, have MST unless they sided it out, by the time this card is set to go off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sora1499 Posted February 7, 2013 Report Share Posted February 7, 2013 [quote name="Zeppeli Gyro Supreme" post="6138901" timestamp="1360266411"]The point of what I was saying is that you're more often that not going to end up wasting it because your opponent will, in all likelyhood, have MST unless they sided it out, by the time this card is set to go off.[/quote] I'd be willing to take the risk if the prize is winning the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted February 7, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2013 If you mean the new Dragons, they have yet to prove their competitive value. And if they somehow end up being meta, this will only be a win moar card for them, in the same fashion as Card Destruction for Dark Worlds, or Future Fusion for Chaos Dragons (granted, that one was banned, but it had all sort of silly loops going around with it). It's a bit more like what Rekindling is to Lavals. Have you played against them? They're a really good decktype, able to compete with most tier decks at the moment due to the sheer ability to put out powerful monsters with backup abilities. And take whatever the opponent pulled out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mido9 Posted February 7, 2013 Report Share Posted February 7, 2013 wait how the f*** are future fusion and card destruction win moar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sander Posted February 7, 2013 Report Share Posted February 7, 2013 Have you actually read the Zhenglong? If used on opp's turn, it's a defensive wall that fills up your hand in the End Phase. Also, being an "offensive-only" trap isn't a very strong argument when it supports OTKing. How would Return even work with the Zhenglong if you used it on your opponents turn? Do they get banished by Return or are they returned to your hand via their effects? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Althemia Posted February 7, 2013 Report Share Posted February 7, 2013 How would Return even work with the Zhenglong if you used it on your opponents turn? Do they get banished by Return or are they returned to your hand via their effects?Returned to the hand via their own effects Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted February 7, 2013 Report Share Posted February 7, 2013 Well then. I thought that the return only happened when they were summoned by their own effect... Yeah, forget what I said earlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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