Thomas★Zero Posted February 17, 2013 Report Share Posted February 17, 2013 This is a very interesting card along with combining the ATK boost with limit for some really high ATK also...[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPC8W672mXc[/media] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cute Rotten Yoshika Posted February 17, 2013 Report Share Posted February 17, 2013 except again just save your damn limiter. oh my god. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newhat Posted February 17, 2013 Report Share Posted February 17, 2013 You can send Tokens to the Graveyard if it's an effect rather than a cost. This card works all right against D-Prison. There's gonna be a Duelchievement for killing your opponent by attacking a Set monster with Ray-Stealth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted February 17, 2013 Report Share Posted February 17, 2013 Limiter and this will work just fine, so long as Limiter resolves first. It's the same thing with Limiter and Forbidden Lance. But if you used Limiter and this, you'll kill everything for sure. If you resolve Limiter's End Phase destruction first, the Tokens die, but the targeted card wont because it's still immune from this (plus the Tokens protect it). Then this will kill it. If you resolve this first during the End Phase, all the Tokens die and the target won't because of the Tokens. Then Limiter will kill it, because it's no longer immune. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pchi Posted February 17, 2013 Report Share Posted February 17, 2013 I always thought your MPB would die from LR even if tokens were on the field, since they would leave there at the same time as it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miror B Posted February 17, 2013 Report Share Posted February 17, 2013 I always thought your MPB would die from LR even if tokens were on the field, since they would leave there at the same time as it... Again, Field Barrier vs Heavy Storm. It's currently being protected when the effect resolves, so it's not destroyed. Unless there's a translation error that's how I see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted February 17, 2013 Report Share Posted February 17, 2013 Again, Field Barrier vs Heavy Storm. It's currently being protected when the effect resolves, so it's not destroyed. Unless there's a translation error that's how I see it. This is correct. When multiple cards are being destroyed simultaneously, such as from Dark Hole or Heavy Storm, and one or more of the cards prevents another from being destroyed by effects, only the protecting card will be destroyed. Field Barrier vs Heavy Storm is a very good example. The Tokens and Mecha Phantom Beasts are the same way. Dark Hole, Limiter Removal, etc will only destroy the Tokens, because the MPBs can't be destroyed when there are Tokens on the Field. One way to think about it is that all the cards are being hit at the exact same instant, but there's an invisible force field surrounding the monsters. The unprotected cards are destroyed, but the force field protects the monsters. When the unprotected cards are destroyed, that force field dissolves, but the impact already occurred. Six Samurai are different, because they try to destroy something else INSTEAD, but can't if the one they want to substitute is also going to die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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