·Toot Posted August 1, 2013 Report Share Posted August 1, 2013 [spoiler=It's all that slut Tour Guide's fault] [/spoiler] Lol discuss Sangan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonk Posted August 1, 2013 Report Share Posted August 1, 2013 With signs that Konami is giving with the new cards, hey may come back in September. I doubt it however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted August 1, 2013 Report Share Posted August 1, 2013 @Image: It's Guides fault in the first damn place >___> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas★Zero Posted August 1, 2013 Report Share Posted August 1, 2013 What would of been funny if they had made a Light Fairy TCG exclusive Version of Sangan for JOTL where its effect would be like this... "When this card is destroyed as a result of battle and sent to the graveyard; Add 1 Level 4 or lower monster from your deck with 1500 ATK or less that not a Dark Monster, you can only use this effect of " Winged Sangan" Once per turn." OT: Yeah Tour guide is the main reason sangan got banned though, still if Sangan does come back we can see tour guide getting limited as well... Edit:... Still for how tour guide is used now its either with Bus, Itself or Trick Archfiend now think about what that's going to make think of what Tour Guide is now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Majishan Posted August 1, 2013 Report Share Posted August 1, 2013 Sangan got banned because it searched out a shit load of monsters when sent from the field to the grave by any means. While TGU made it easier to get Sangan to the field, thus making such searching easier, it was not the reason the card got banned. Look at it this way...the reason TGU was soooooo good when Sangan was around was because...well...we had Sangan, now that Sangan is gone, what relevant deck, other than DWs, really runs TGU? TGU Banned, Sangan Limited = Everyone still runs Sangan. Sangan Banned, TGU Semied = TGU being dropped from a lot of decks. So yeah....while TGU abused Sangan, Sangan was still broken on his own Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizarus Posted August 1, 2013 Report Share Posted August 1, 2013 Back to the CCV days, Sangan has always been a problematic card, and has been dodging the list for years. Some new way to abuse Sangan always comes out, so just keep it banned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted August 1, 2013 Report Share Posted August 1, 2013 I wouldn't mind seeing Sangan come back tbh, even though the critter caused problems he gave some decks the extra push when they needed it. with Bus, Itself or Trick Archfiend now think about what that's going to make think of what Tour Guide is now... With those one night stands shenanigans, TGU would feel like a monster, but she doesn't see it that way, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mido9 Posted August 1, 2013 Report Share Posted August 1, 2013 The critter wasnt even really the problem with a lot of what it searches TBH. I mean, in a lot of cases it was some stupid crap like rabbit, or hornet, or fly or etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zazubat Posted August 1, 2013 Report Share Posted August 1, 2013 I know that we all know what he does, but maybe you should put the card up anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Majishan Posted August 1, 2013 Report Share Posted August 1, 2013 The critter wasnt even really the problem with a lot of what it searches TBH. I mean, in a lot of cases it was some stupid crap like rabbit, or hornet, or fly or etc. That in itself was the problem...the fact it can search any Monster you want, with the only restriction being that it has to be 1500 or less ATK is too broad of a pool. It's the same reason Witch is banned, they both search key cards for pretty much any deck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not-so-Radiant Arin Posted August 1, 2013 Report Share Posted August 1, 2013 Witch is a lot worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Majishan Posted August 1, 2013 Report Share Posted August 1, 2013 At the time yes, because it searched "boss monsters," but now with most bosses being in the extra deck...Sangan does basically the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted August 2, 2013 Report Share Posted August 2, 2013 Well, Witch searched potentially big beaters back in the day it was around. Not only could it search big beater Level 4 monsters like Gemini Elf, etc, but also Tribute monsters whose defenses were paltry, but had solid effects, like Jinzo. Monarchs are another solid target, not sure if Witch was banned before they showed up or not, though. With the game now steered towards low stat monsters with terrific effects and swarming capability for Xyz and Synchro Summons, cards like Witch and Sangan are just too good because they're too easy to Trigger and search too broad a pool. Almost any Deck can use them without any real thought, and there's a lot of crucial low stat monsters like Battle Fader, Veiler, Maxx C, etc that players want in their hand as fast as possible. Heck, these days, cards are given stats SPECIFICALLY so you can't search them. With cards like Mystic Tomato/etc still around, having 1600 ATK makes a lot of cards mediocre instead of amazing. This is intelligent design, even if players hate it. Sangan and Witch by now have half the game within easy grabbing range, and whenever cards are made to try to compensate for effects or synergy with weaker stats (Umbral Horrors, Kagetokage, etc), Sangan just becomes better and better. Thus, it had to be eliminated. Tour Guide had a hand in it, but if you look at Sangan purely on its own merits...it wasn't a card you should keep around. It was mandatory and just had to be sent from Field to Grave by any means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cute Rotten Yoshika Posted August 4, 2013 Report Share Posted August 4, 2013 witch alone searches roughly 70% of main deck monsters. there is no logical reason we need a searcher that universal with a body on top of it in the game ever again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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