More than 3 characters Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 Anime effect:Target 1 face-up Xyz Monster you control; Special Summon from your Extra Deck, 1 "C" monster that is 1 Rank higher than that monster you control, by using it as the Xyz Material. (This Special Summon is treated as an Xyz Summon. Xyz Materials attached to that target also become Xyz Materials on the Summoned monster.)Based on how much text is on the OCG version compared to the anime version, it seems there will be quite a few added conditions on this card. First of all, it's pretty much quaranteed they are going to make it summon Number C only, as opposed to both Number C and CXyz like the anime version. I have no idea where they'll go from there though, since as-is it would make Limited Barian's Force obsolete, and I'm pretty sure Konami doesn't want that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azuh Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 It'll be a Rank-Up Magic that's only for Rank 5 or higher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 It'll be a Rank-Up Magic that's only for Rank 5 or higherThat would actually be pretty cool, if it was literally the same as the Anime version, but only for Rank 5+ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maeriberii Haan Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 As long as it's similar in Limited Barian's Force in mechanic, I'm sold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
玄魔の王 Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 Its text appears longer than Limited Varian's. I wouldn't be surprised if it was a LVF for Rank 5+, but there's speculation it will have an effect to recycle itself, replicating how it was used in the anime. If so, me gusta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 I'm hoping that if it is for Rank 5+, they let it Summon CXyz. Argent Chaos Force was almost explicitly supposed to be emulating the original RUM. Maybe they will let it be recycled. They need to somehow make it better than regular Rank-Up Magics to warrant use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
玄魔の王 Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 I'm hoping that if it is for Rank 5+, they let it Summon CXyz. Argent Chaos Force was almost explicitly supposed to be emulating the original RUM. Maybe they will let it be recycled. They need to somehow make it better than regular Rank-Up Magics to warrant use. I'd say give it the Gem-Knight Fusion style "Banish x from your graveyard, return this to hand". X being either just an Xyz Monster, or a CXyz/Number C. Hopefully the former. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heraldry_lord Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 Considering how many times the thing was recycled and reused in the anime (IV used it 3 times, and III and V used it twice between each other), it would only make sense to have that kind of effect in its IRL version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 Just so long as the recycle is OPT, I'm fine with that. And if it's a LBF for 5+ akin to GK Fusion, it's not stupid with Lavalval Chain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azuh Posted December 20, 2013 Report Share Posted December 20, 2013 Unconfirmed effect according to Org PP16-JP018 Rank-Up-Magic Argent Chaos Force Normal Spell Card [Target 1 Rank (5/6) or higher Xyz Monster you control; Special Summon from your Extra Deck, 1 "Number C" or "CXyz" monster that is 1 Rank higher, by using it as the Xyz Material. (This Special Summon is treated as an Xyz Summon. Xyz Materials attached to it also become Xyz Materials on the Summoned monster.) When you Special Summon a Rank (5/6) or higher Xyz Monster: You can add this card from your Graveyard to your hand. You can only use this effect of "Rank-Up-Magic Argent Chaos Force" once per Duel.] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted December 20, 2013 Report Share Posted December 20, 2013 Unconfirmed effect according to Org PP16-JP018 Rank-Up-Magic Argent Chaos Force Normal Spell Card [Target 1 Rank (5/6) or higher Xyz Monster you control; Special Summon from your Extra Deck, 1 "Number C" or "CXyz" monster that is 1 Rank higher, by using it as the Xyz Material. (This Special Summon is treated as an Xyz Summon. Xyz Materials attached to it also become Xyz Materials on the Summoned monster.) When you Special Summon a Rank (5/6) or higher Xyz Monster: You can add this card from your Graveyard to your hand. You can only use this effect of "Rank-Up-Magic Argent Chaos Force" once per Duel.] So...it'd only work on 5/6+ Xyz, it WILL work with CXyz, no other restrictions on Type or Attribute. And you can add it back to your hand when you Summon a potential target, but only once a Duel. Interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heraldry_lord Posted December 20, 2013 Report Share Posted December 20, 2013 Unconfirmed effect according to Org PP16-JP018 Rank-Up-Magic Argent Chaos Force Normal Spell Card [Target 1 Rank (5/6) or higher Xyz Monster you control; Special Summon from your Extra Deck, 1 "Number C" or "CXyz" monster that is 1 Rank higher, by using it as the Xyz Material. (This Special Summon is treated as an Xyz Summon. Xyz Materials attached to it also become Xyz Materials on the Summoned monster.) When you Special Summon a Rank (5/6) or higher Xyz Monster: You can add this card from your Graveyard to your hand. You can only use this effect of "Rank-Up-Magic Argent Chaos Force" once per Duel.] That's pretty cool. It targets only Rank 5 or higher as predicted, and it has a neat recovery effect, along with no Type restriction. What I didn't expect is it actually Summoning CXyz, which is great I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted December 20, 2013 Report Share Posted December 20, 2013 That's pretty cool. It targets only Rank 5 or higher as predicted, and it has a neat recovery effect, along with no Type restriction. What I didn't expect is it actually Summoning CXyz, which is great I guess. I totally had called it working with CXyz. it's intended to emulate Barian's Force, and when more CXyz got released, it become more obvious that the other Rank-Up Magics were neglecting them, and they need support. The fact it doesn't seem to have a Type restriction is awesome and actually unexpected, and a couple of the CXyz have a high Rank, such as Ultimatrainer and the Sky Palace. So you could totally tech this in a Rank 8 Deck like Gimmick Puppets and pull out a sudden Ultimatrainer or C107, plus the Gimmick Puppet Chaos Numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerion Brightflame Posted December 20, 2013 Report Share Posted December 20, 2013 It still feels meh. Especially because they actually made the Rank it would be best for good, but kept the monster base crappy. Which means making 8's causes you to burn at your own resources vastly... Which depending on the effects on the new monsters makes this risky, because sticking on a Felgrand or whatever is a smarter play. It's worth testing at least. I just wish 8's were easier to actually make now. That and the fact being a RUM and unsearchable does it over a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted December 21, 2013 Report Share Posted December 21, 2013 Y'know when Number C9 had its attribute changed to LIGHT, we thought that this card would have an attribute restriction, but I'm surprised that the IRL eff had no such restrictions, this'll be interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted December 21, 2013 Report Share Posted December 21, 2013 I don't expect Argent Chaos Force to revolutionize Rank-Up Magics. But if it's better than regular Barian's Force in certain Decks, that'll be good enough. I would not have been surprised if this was limited to Machine monsters, though. Since Argent Chaos Force was always used on a Machine: the three Gimmick Puppets, Atlanthal, and Dyson Sphere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maeriberii Haan Posted December 21, 2013 Report Share Posted December 21, 2013 Atlandis is Machine? Also, nailed it being a LBF for R5/6 or higher. The recovery effect is definitely nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted December 21, 2013 Report Share Posted December 21, 2013 Atlandis is Machine? Also, nailed it being a LBF for R5/6 or higher. The recovery effect is definitely nice. Yeah, it is. All the Chronomaly Numbers are Machines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heraldry_lord Posted December 21, 2013 Report Share Posted December 21, 2013 [quote] Rank-Up-Magic Argent Chaos Force Normal Spell Card Target 1 Rank 5 or higher Xyz Monster you control; Special Summon from your Extra Deck, 1 “Number C” or “CXyz” monster that is 1 Rank higher, by using it as the Xyz Material. (This Special Summon is treated as an Xyz Summon. Xyz Materials attached to it also become Xyz Materials on the Summoned monster.) When you Special Summon a Rank 5 or higher Xyz Monster: You can add this card from your Graveyard to your hand. You can only use this effect of “Rank-Up-Magic Argent Chaos Force” once per Duel. [/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted December 21, 2013 Report Share Posted December 21, 2013 And? What does it say? Anything new? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azuh Posted December 21, 2013 Report Share Posted December 21, 2013 And? What does it say? Anything new? I think it just confirms that its Rank 5 or higher really Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
玄魔の王 Posted December 21, 2013 Report Share Posted December 21, 2013 And? What does it say? Anything new? It only works on Rank 5+, it can make CXyz, no Type OR Attribute restriction, and once per duel it returns to your hand if you Special Summon a Rank 5+ monster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maeriberii Haan Posted December 21, 2013 Report Share Posted December 21, 2013 Xyz into N15->pop and burn->C107/Ultimatrainer->effect->add this to hand->C9 for another burn hopefully for game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
玄魔の王 Posted December 21, 2013 Report Share Posted December 21, 2013 Xyz into N15->pop and burn->C107/Ultimatrainer->effect->add this to hand->C9 for another burn hopefully for game. Um... no. This thing is still on the field when the monster it summons comes out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maeriberii Haan Posted December 21, 2013 Report Share Posted December 21, 2013 Aww shucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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